Lets discuss weapons and gear for fighting demons, mole men, spooks, and mutants underground.
Whether you're exploring or looking for sweet loot you gotta be prepared.
Lets discuss weapons and gear for fighting demons, mole men, spooks, and mutants underground.
SCP is for dorks
> Not SCP
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-army/2019/02/26/the-subterranean-battlefield-warfare-is-going-underground-into-dark-tight-spaces/
True, but so are Metal Gear and WH4k.
>t. SCP contributor
Your work amounts to Sonic OC with a /k/x/ gloss
Lmao imagine caring what other people think so much over something so trivial, beta male.
Close the exits and use fire. Why fight mole people in caves?
Yeah I'm with this as an experiment.
Map an area. Then nukes, chemical (nerve gas?), maybe even bio then maybe clean out.
There is no reason to fight mutants or demons with small arms and SUT
>fricking around with bio or chemo
My homie white phos will burn or choke anything in there to death, and will minimize risk to the unit
>white phos
sorry, the moleman may have hostages in there, the brass won't allow it.
>Encounter threat that can be cheaply dealt with by a platoon sized element or less
>It's surrounded by a city or necessary logistics, or your difficult to replace base of operations
>Nuke it.
Are you fricking stupid? Only that one dude said nukes
>Just burn your own base down
>Just burn the city sewer system completely
>Just burn the city
>Cant fight a mole man with a gun
>even risking getting close to mole men
I'm white phos anon. Using it underground would minimize collateral damage. Stone sewers and dirt wouldn't catch fire, and won't contaminate the area like chemical weapons would
Anon, are you familiar with why coal mines sometimes blew up? You'd get pockets of "coal gas", natural gas which would detonate when exposed to a flame, such as a candle. This would kill anyone in the vicinity and usually collapse the tunnel, it could also collapse adjacent tunnels.
Are you also familiar with medieval sieges? Where they would tunnel under a wall, and then detonate explosives or burn down the tunnel, causing it to collapse, the subsidence would then collapse the wall above.
Now take both of these and apply them to a modern city. Sewers contain something called "sewer gas", which can and will blow up on contact with flames, it has in fact been set off by hot asphalt on occasion. Set this off and you manage to effectively blow up the sewers, which causes subsidence and collapses the buildings beneath that stretch of sewers.
We also have things called gas lines, these are underground, these can and will blow up if exposed to extreme temperatures. These are however usually relatively close to the surface. However if you collapse the sewers and buildings subside then these will break and become exposed, if they subsequently ignite (likely) then you have collapsed buildings and you also set the city on fire.
We have the water mains and underground resevoirs and paved over streams+rivers. When you expose water to extreme heat it evaporates and forms a gas, this expands and takes up more space than the liquid. You have created a steam explosion. This will ollapse the resevoir, causing subsidence or a minor earthquake as well as losing you the resevoir. If a stream/river then they usually arent that far down and there are usually coverings, but these will be blown off and hurt anything which happens to be over them, as well as damage to anything above the line of it depending on the pressure.
And finally we have underground rail transport....which has attending underground electric networks. If your tunnels somehow connect to these....
Yeah but that will kill the Molemen/Demons/Vietnamese so I think it’s a win in my book
You will legit get murdered by some pissed off ordinary person who lost their house and family because a schitzo set fire to the city and collapsed their house.
I was working under the assumption that I will die in the explosion
>Just burn the city
Yes.
Look up what the Rangers are doing. They have massive underground training complexes and tactics for such things.
For the bugmen.
>https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html
the reality tv presentation of this is very strange
Yes I know what you mean. Its hard to tell to if this is real or they're messing with us. Noticed alot of these submissions are by companies owned by "them."
Without designing anything custom, the ideal gun is an integrally suppressed .300BLK bullpup with a bayonet somehow attached. Not anything I'd pick normally but
> frick firing unsuppressed underground. I have done it exactly once, never again.
>frick going down to a pistol caliber when facing demons and shit. .300 probably won't be enough but it's more likely to work than 9mm. .300 is half decent sub and super sonic
>Frick losing barrel length against said demons
>Frick trying to manoeuvre in tight tunnel with a full length rifle
>Bayonet because close quarters and again demons.
Prove me wrong homosexuals.
ShAK-12
I considered it. It wouldn't be a bad option as a speciality weapon for when you need the extra oomph but the issue is the ammo weight and bulk. It's 35% longer and 25% wider than 7.62x51.
Pic related is a 10 round mag of 12.7x55. Its also not the shortest rifle when suppressed.
If they do 20 drums for the ShAK-12, I would have that be a GMPG equivalent to put down big beasties, and probably the OTs-14-4A-02 or something using the 9x39mm cartridge.
*Assuming there are no restrictions on equipment/expense
>OTs-14-4A-02
>Not a competently designed bullpup with a decent trigger and usable ergos
The OTs was basically a stopgap that could be made with largely existing manufacturing that got retained because poor.
Vietnamese and platypuses have already found ways to prevent this tactic. Semi-sentient molemen can too.
Based
ShAK-12 has duplex cartridges too. Even more suitable for this.
>Prove me wrong homosexuals.
Revolver. Because you fighting demons and shit you'll likely need special boolits made out of silver or some other shit as their counter. A revolver avoids any feeding issues you'd have from the specially made ammo.
For melee I think you'd just have to have a sword in one hand and the wheelgat in the other. If I had to pick a caliber, I'd be heretical and say 9mm. Moon clips are poorgay speed loaders and the extra power and penetration of .357 mag probably wouldn't be necessary. Especially since you're probably needing to use special bullets.
You're both going to get swarmed by imps or molemen and eaten.
aus army has them with bayonets, they take suppressors, 5.56
Nah I'd want to be able to run suppressed and have the bayonet mounted at the same time and without having to use one of those crappy handguard mounts. Integral is the easiest way to do that, and you save some OAL.
Because again, frick firing unsuppressed underground ever again.
I want to have the yakuza force shinto priestess to bless their tokarevs to deal with demons.
How else will you protect you gambling and idol addicted clients.
Well Obviously the SKS, with its holy bayonet and only the *best* ammo you can find in a trailer park, all with a flashlight duct taped to the side
imagine getting pulverized by a bunch of dobby lookalikes lmao
why is he so scared, hes got a gun and theyre obviously weak
Heavy infantry in full armor becauseof the lackof cover. 12.5 inch full auto capable ar shotguns loaded 20 round mags with silver shot for spooks and demons. Normal 00 for mutants.
They all sing gregorian chants as the advance down spooky tunnels. Their armor has spells and wards in the Greek alphabet.
So grey knights? Because you’re basically describing a modern version of the Grey Knights.
Is gears of war real now?
Oh hell let's not.
Bring like, a bazillion lights mounted all over yourself
>>>/x/ if you want to pretend this shit is real, >>>/tg/ if not.
https://corregidor.org/ca/drum/taking_drum.htm
>A special mixture of two parts Diesel oil and one part gasoline was mixed and then pumped into the tanks.
>The mixture of oil and gas - 2400 gallons of it, was then pumped in the pits.
>Tracer bullets were fired and set fire to the pits.
>Only charred Japs were found when the flames died down.
Ok but the problem with doing that underneath one of your cities is that:
1) You dont know how much you'll need
2) You dont know how much connects to stuff that you use
3) You do know how much stuff you use potentially could get fricked
4) You do know that if a certain series of events occur, you set the entire city on fire.
Youve got to really know where you are doing that and what the risks are, before you dare do it.
A trench shotgun is your best bet.
You've got a bayonet to keep the gribblies at arm's length (which could be engraved with prayers and silver plated for good measure), and since it's a pump action, you can load exotic ammo without worrying about jams. I'd recommend alternating "dragon's breath" incendiary shell and 00 shells loaded with a mix of iron and silver shot.
Hmm, interesting. You got the wheels turning.
I wonder if Bill's bendy bayonets might be useful after all
Wrong. Embrace GWOT.
this is so based. Paired with a KAC broomstick is just perfect. Unfortunately I don't have an A2 FH.
>he doesn't own a dremel
how does handle part attach?
M27 barrels have a bayonet lug.
thanks
>fighting fake creatures
obviously you need a fake gun
>sock puppet silhouette on the wall
cannot be defeated by conventional weaponry. Weak to light sources originating in front of the source (consider turning the lights on, or in absence of that, a flashlight)
>fake
Bolt Metal Storm to one of those shitty wire eod drones, drop it and clear them tunnel by tunnel.
Create kill-tunnels and bait them with meat or mole woman porn, then let the drones loose.
Take the cornershot and instead of slapping a stuffed cat on it cover the gun in whatever it is they like most.
I like this idea. Maybe we could use politicians as bait too.
"loot"
You're a fed.
>have time machine
>doing anything besides making sure Cromwell is defeated so the israelites aren't allowed back into England
>not going farther back and telling hadrian what to do
>not going even farther back and telling the babylonians
I guess we now know why they hate SBRs so much.
>Firing guns in underground tunnels
>Firing guns in underground tunnels when you have NVDs on
Lets discuss NVDs, hearing and vision protection first
This is why .50 cal airguns would be the weapon of choice.
Another issue is some of these places are probably designed as reinforced bunkers with like 45 ton blast doors after you get through the initial entry. Think I read one place had a 2 mile drive unnaground then a hidden door just to get to an elevator.
It's just hard to know what you are dealing with.
booba traps
surveillance systems
sentryfuns (Aliens)
psy abilities
If its like that then just blow the entrance and trap them in.
If metal storm and bullets don’t work embrace the past. A Phalanx is weak from the sides and rear, a tunnel is nice and enclosed with little chance for flanking or breaking the formation.
If you don’t want to larp as a Greek or use machine gun drones then I guess thick armour and a fat machine gun works too. Maybe give it a nice little backpack with a funky belt condom like autocannons have so it doesn’t jam or get twisted.
based and wolfbrigade pillled
MG42
>Tunnel fighting
Pretty simple and incredibly low risk actually.
>Establish OPs at every exit to the tunnel/bunker network
>I said 'simple', not 'easy' or 'not a huge job'.
>OPs job is to watch their designated exit and surrounding area, shoot/arrest individuals attempting to escape, and call for the Rapid Reaction Force if the enemy attempts a bigger sally out.
>Find the tunnels ventilation system, if it's big enough to be a pain to secure then it'll need one.
>Secure the surface level ventilation hardware
>Hook it up to a pressurised bottle of something unpleasant. It doesn't have to be lethal, and don't tell me that gassing a Chicom bunker complex with aerosolised Opium wouldn't be fricking hilarious.
>Troops assigned to the OPs sit down, maintain their watch, and drink whatever they've got to hand while talking about whatever moronic/perverted/autistic thing they want while they wait for the enemy to surrender
>Everyone gets bored waiting, but with any luck the other guys in your squad will 'take a toilet break' over in the bushes/behind a rock while they jack off to relieve the boredom.
>Total friendly casualties securing the bunker: 0
>Total hostile casualties securing the bunker: varies depending on the gas you use