Lets all take a moment to laugh at the chunmoo. Outclassed by HIMARS in every way.

Let’s all take a moment to laugh at the chunmoo. Outclassed by HIMARS in every way.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But it has 8 wheels tho?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true 8 is more than 6, thus it is a quantifiable advantage over himars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except the Poles chose it in lieu of HIMARS that's taking forever to receive.

      true 8 is more than 6, thus it is a quantifiable advantage over himars

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Makes you wonder.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you left out the only thing that matters

        accuracy:
        HIMARS: 100% - PC30: 0%

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i bet it can retreat faster

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's the whole point of shoot and scoot. Shoot and gtfo as fast as possible.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Except the Poles chose it in lieu of HIMARS that's taking forever to receive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope Poland is buying HIMARS. Poland is getting quotes on chunmoo to try and bring the price of HIMARS down.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SK has built 200 since 2014. That 2 units per month. They don't have the production capacity to fulfill a 200-500 unit order. Even if the morons doubled their production rate to 4 units/month it would take 5 - 10 YEARS before Poland got their units, not even taking into account spare parts, and ammunition. Tell your moron boss the money shilling on PrepHole is better spent upgrading the production lines to have an actual capacity to build them.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Truly the warrior ifv of the rocket artillery world

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that OP is a no life neet from nipland and his only source of joy is making shit posts about korea on PrepHole, 24/7, and watch the replies as he falseflags anyone who dares to advocate or speak nice of it as a shill because it's the only place where he can feel like he's in power from the safety of online anonymity. Also, he gets extremely infuriated whenever he gets to be asked about the recent success in sales that the Korean weapons have been experiencing, he then delves himself into his own narrative about historic disputes and all sorts. And without a need for a pause, he continues with his casual wau of spilling out his incoherent rants about Korea, and repeats the same exact routine everyday, around the clock, because it got stuck in his head so badly that he no longer can afford to live another second without thinking about it, because it's the only way to make his miserable life of no value shine.
    tl;dr: OP is a gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh hey Korea shill is also here, how was your kimchi today squid gamer bro?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just stop pretending. Your entire posting reeks of esl larper.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This doesn’t change the fact that HIMARS is better than chunmoo. The world knows it too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >source: post from July where a load of supposed Japs are speaking in English

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is pretty pathetic. That would make sense

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can these things fire NATO ammo?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but the US controls the flow of the world class leading GMLRS. I’m sure the us will prioritize sending GMLRS to HIMARS and m270 users first. This means if any wine where you buy the chunmoo, they would have to either wait for GMLRS or buy Korean copies of GMLRS

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Currently HIMARS is a bit better and cheaper. But new HIMARS missiles have 150km range while new K239 missiles have 200km range. Price will also drop a lot after Poland buys 200 of them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's assuming the use of GMLRS-ER and not PRiSM or any ATACMs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Koreans also have those.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're also developing CHUNMOO-II and CHUNMOO-III respectively in order to be used as outright TEL vehicles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >HIMARS is a bit better
      K239 can dump the same load that 2 HIMARS can. Also it generates more t/hp.
      >cheaper
      Source? Because I've heard it's quite the opposite.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HIMARS are way faster and more mobile. If you want 2 times the payload the modernized m270s are a popular choice. The HIMARS reloading crane is also much better and makes logistics a lot easier. There’s a reason HIMARS is selling so well and the chunmoo isn’t

        https://i.imgur.com/Msy9grR.jpg

        Koreans also have those.

        These are just drawings that resemble actual American munitions. Points deducted for copying American designs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >HIMARS are way faster and more mobile.
          Debunked.
          >If you want 2 times the payload the modernized m270s are a popular choice.
          Why? When you can simply go for a Korean alternative at more than half the price.
          >The HIMARS reloading crane is also much better and makes logistics a lot easier.
          Bragging about a loading crane isn't quite a good sign when advertising your weapon system.

          Just admit that HIMARS can't even hold a candle in fron to K239, then there will be an end to this horror.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >debunked
            By who? It’s well known that’s HIMARS is faster and weighs much less, making it more mobile. The HIMARS has many more units built, many more units on order, and a very good combat record. The world noticed and that’s why we’re seeing so many HIMARS sales. Chunmoo doesn’t have any of that going for it and it’s why they don’t have any signed orders

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >crane bad

            Yes because requiring a second truck or external equipment to reload a weapon system instead of just having the weapon reload itself is a bad thing.

            Are you retarded?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              She’s coping. She is very upset that the HIMARS has performed well in Ukraine

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, well what I believe is that a different crane type hardly makes a meaningful difference, at least on the strategic level, whereas 2 silos vs only 1 silo does make a difference.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By that logic this thing absolutely shits on chunmoo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hurr I'm just going to go full retarded
                That really depends on what kind of theatre of war it is, but in general, 2 is enough. Also, firepower is a well received aspect of war, so when all the other factors are similar or the same, then it's best to get one with higher firepower.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s why m270 and HIMARS are such a great pair. We’ve seen what a small number of highly mobile, highly accurate mlrs can achieve in the Ukraine war. The Ukrainians have both m270 and HIMARS and the HIMARS is the one that’s shining because of its mobility. No one is buying the slower chunmoo when it mimics the m270. It only makes sense that people are buying what’s working, and that’s why we are seeing so many HIMARS orders and none for chunmoo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >then it's best to get one with higher firepower.
                Then it gets hit, and you lose all your offensive missile artillery. If you have smaller, more mobile units that break up your missile artillery, you can afford to lose one, and not compromise your offensive/defensive missile artillery abilities. One hugely expensive, slow, low mobility unit is a retarded idea. Why do you think the US Navy doesn't have arsenal ships with 500 SM-2/3/6 of Tomahawks? If you lose one, it's extremely expensive, and you lose all of your offensive/defensive abilities.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if all factors are the same except for one you should get the one that's better in that aspect
                No shit, that's the entire point. They're not the same in all other ways, so you cannot do that.
                And if you're hitting an ammunition depot firepower doesn't matter past a certain point

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                American mlrs has both. M270 can carry 2 rocket sleds and HIMARS is a more mobile version that can carry one. Chunmoo is like the m270. It has wheels but it’s slow and can’t go the same places a HIMARS can. It’s not even transportable in a c130 like the HIMARS lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                80km/h is not slow. They are heavier but also have much more powerful engines. HIMARS is better for operating close to front lines since it's easier to hide. K239 is more economical since you get two launchers in one package.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, actually Himars has only 4 wheels compared to 8 wheels on K239 so the actual ground pressure is lower on the latter so it's just an easy physics really if you've been focusing in your class.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HIMARS has 6 wheels kim. Enjoy those non existent chunmoo sales

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well, actually Himars has only 4 wheels compared to 8 wheels on K239
                The M142 HIMARS has 6 wheels, brainlet.

                >so the actual ground pressure is lower on the latter
                The M142 HIMARS weighs 35,800lbs with 6 wheels. The K239 Chomo LIMARS weighs 68,000lbs with 8 wheels.
                >35,800/6 = 5,967lbs per wheel
                >68,000/8 = 8,500lbs per wheel
                Each K239 Chomo LIMARS wheel carries 1.43 times more weight than each HIMARS wheel. That's not going into wheel width and variable contact patch area due to tire inflation pressure.

                >so it's just an easy physics really if you've been focusing in your class.
                Seems you didn't pay attention in your math, nor English classes. I thought Asians were good at math? Or is it the notorious lying trait all Asians are known for, taking over?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >35,800/6 = 5,967lbs per wheel
                >68,000/8 = 8,500lbs per wheel
                doesn't work like that my guy. PSI matters more than just weight per wheel
                t. ctis connoisseur
                neither of them are offroad vehicles. They will both sink in the same mud

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they're literally trucks made for driving on roads

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats what I am saying

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The HIMARS literally has off-road capabilities, as seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Ukraine. Combat proven. Can the Chomo? It better for >$25mil USD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They will both sink in the same mud
                Depends on the mud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's not going into wheel width and variable contact patch area due to tire inflation pressure.
                My guy, hence, my statement right after that, my guy.
                >neither of them are offroad vehicles.
                My guy, the HIMARS has off-road capabilities, my guy.
                >They will both sink in the same mud
                My guy, it depends. The Chomo will sink much faster than the HIMARS, my guy. Does it have the ability to get out of the mud is the question. Thread depth, design, side wall bite, width, tire height, etc play a part in getting yourself unstuck, or the ability to move through that mud, my guy. I can tell you're Asian, as you bugs love to use the phrase 'my guy'. Why, my guy?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, he's probably never driven a car before.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Bragging about a loading crane isn't quite a good sign when advertising your weapon system.
            This, more than anything else anon, shows you are absolutely and utterly ignorant of war and what actually matters in actual fighting vs posturing and parades. There are a number of reasons why American military dominates the planet but the big one is logistics logistics logistics. This is even more important with missile systems which have essentially no limit to their usage or rate of fire except logistics of missiles themselves. You're the kind of person who mocks American military when we extoll and sing the virtues of pallets, of military forklifts, cranes and bulldozers. Of how we make all sorts of compromises in weapon systems to ensure that most of them still fit fine in C-130s at least when packed. Of how we pay lots extra to standardize everything from munition boxes to fuel. But THOSE are cornerstones of a serious functional force as much as advanced guidance systems or rocket motors if you don't want a lot of parade/hanger/depot queens.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Bragging about a loading crane isn't quite a good sign when advertising your weapon system.
            Literal russia-tier mindset. Get a clue, faget.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >These are just drawings that resemble actual American munitions. Points deducted for copying American designs.
          Nice one, Mike. Daddy Biden will be so much proud of your act of patriotism.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek an ATACMS clone 40 years later. Is this the true power of the Korean MIC

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >i-it doesn't exist
              >y-yeah well it's too late
              What do you expect to get posted back?
              Also, these aren't just ballistic missiles but a means to deliver kamikaze drones deep inside enemy's territory.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kamikaze drones are just slow missiles you fucking retard

                Almost like K239 is a decade younger system that just now started getting export deals.

                Which export deals? It’s only exported 12 systems and HIMARS has only been around for 15 years

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, a ATACMS BAT copy? Good job, you're on your way to being just like your chinsect brothers. Why is the only thing Asians can do is copy from the White man?

                https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/budget/fy2000/dot-e/army/00atacms.html

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heh, you again?
                >OMG these suicide drones are so much similar to the glided munition that we developed a while ago that went defunct and forgotten forever. They must have pagiarized it!
                Similar concept, but not the same. Just as how ballistic missiles and HGV are different.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sticking a prop on the back of it doesn't change the fact it's a copy of the ATACMS BAT. When are you going to copy LOCAAS, and claim it as something revolutionary? It's a BAT, or a shitty version of LOCAAS, and still doesn't exist as more than a PowerPoint slide. Asians can't innovate, only copy, and need the White man to hold their hand and lead them to do literally anything. All the while trying to stab the White man in his back as a thank you for all his help. Asians are worthless sub-human leeches that all need to be killed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh did it first
                Holy shit this is a whole new level of cope. You're simply ignoring the technological gap between then and now, the time when Warrior system OICW were venerated as the next big thing since the adoption of AR-15. You need to move on gramp.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain why HIMARS gets all the good press and purchase orders and why chunmoo doesn’t have a single purchase order. Do it without posting copies of 35 year old American weapons in the process

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Almost like K239 is a decade younger system that just now started getting export deals.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Which export deals? Are you about to quote something about Poland looking into them as export deals

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                UAE and Poland. You know more will come. Same way how K2 and K9 are already getting multiple deals. Every country wants GMLRS now and USA can't make HIMARS fast enough. Also USA hates tech transfer while koreans are happy about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                UAE bought 12 kek and Poland didn’t buy any. Poland is making erratic claims that no one expects them to back up. They say they want 500 HIMARS and 200 chunmoo but in reality they will buy less than 100 HIMARS and be happy about it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See you in few months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t…two more weeks and the chunmoo orders will start rolling in

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://defence24.pl/polityka-obronna/blaszczak-potwierdza-rozmowy-o-artylerii-rakietowej-z-korei-bedzie-wiecej-black-hawkow-z-mielca

                https://defence24.pl/przemysl/koreanski-homar-przyspiesza-news-defence24pl

                Can't wait for your tears when it's 100% confirmed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many more weeks? Luckily HIMARS already has orders and a good combat history. I can laugh at you now instead of waiting 2 weeks to laugh at you. And you just have to sit there and take it because you have no recourse other than using Poland as a crutch. Poland is buying 500 HIMARS btw so even if they manage to buy 200 chunmoo you’re still getting BTFO by HIMARS sales
                https://breakingdefense.com/2022/06/poland-moves-to-buy-himars-capping-major-may-modernization-push/?amp=1

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That news is from june way before the Polish-Korean arms deal went viral, and the defence minister has been complaining about the US not responding to its request simce then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes and post the article about the korea-Poland news. Specifically post the part about Poland going to korea for a quote to try and drive the price of HIMARS, the system Poland wants, down

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit this is a whole new level of cringe. How do you get to live with such a condition of mentality?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >poland is in on it
                >literally no other option besides it and himars
                Oy vey, shut it down.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and Poland
                So, there's an acquisition contract signed between morons and plumbers for sale and delivery of Chomos? Must be top secret, as I've never seen it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon no one is going to buy the k239 when the HIMARS exists. The American system has just had too much success

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just now started getting export deals.
                Why is that? It's been in service since 2014. Why has it only sold 14 units in those 8 years of service? And only to the UAE - which will buy just about anything.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              K2 didn't really get a spotlight on the market until the Poles purchased it by thousands, it's gradually picking up on it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's an ATACMS copy.

            >HIMARS are way faster and more mobile.
            Debunked.
            >If you want 2 times the payload the modernized m270s are a popular choice.
            Why? When you can simply go for a Korean alternative at more than half the price.
            >The HIMARS reloading crane is also much better and makes logistics a lot easier.
            Bragging about a loading crane isn't quite a good sign when advertising your weapon system.

            Just admit that HIMARS can't even hold a candle in fron to K239, then there will be an end to this horror.

            >Why? When you can simply go for a Korean alternative at more than half the price.
            The UAE bought 12 Chomos for a package price of $804,497,568 USD. That's $67,041,464/Unit. The M270A1 costs $2,300,000/unit. Even if the M270A2 is double the price, it's - let's be generous to the Chomo - 5 times cheaper than the Chomo. You moron shills are quite the retards.

            >“Significant deals with UAE companies today include the contract which was put in place with Yas Holding, purchasing Korean Chunmoo launchers and missiles, at a value of Dhs2.955bn.
            https://gulfbusiness.com/deals-worth-dhs17-913bn-signed-by-uae-armed-forces-at-idex-navdex/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >while new K239 missiles have 200km range.
      Can I see them accurately hitting at 200km out?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. Best I can do is an edited video of a rocket launching and then cutscene to the target exploding. Please buy 1000 units sir

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kek that’s some China type marketing right there.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, the Asian way.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called the Chomo.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HIMARS has a 1-meter CEP
    Chunmoo has a 15-meter CEP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2m actually.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chunmoo has a pretty large CEP compared to GMLRS. I’m not aware of a single nation outside of UAE that buys morongmlrs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For the 130mm missiles. 239mm and 600m have 2m CEP.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, For the 130mm missiles. 239mm and 600m have 12m CEP.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Complete bullshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Proof? I don’t know which to believe they were both posted without sources. I mean people can see what HIMARS is capable with their own eyes just by looking at that bridge strike. Is there anything you can show me to back up your 2m claim?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s a cutscene. Do you have any actual proof?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like what? You didn't have real HIMARS data until few weeks ago either. Modern phones have more advanced electronica than missiles made 30 years ago.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Like what? You didn't have real HIMARS data until few weeks ago either.
                Only if you haven't actually paid attention.

                >Afghanistan:

                >Iraq:

                These are just a sample, and ones that have the impact. They've been combat tested and proven since Desert Storm. Only a disingenuous shill, or brainlet doesn't know this. Ask Russian Wagner in Syria how effective GLMRS are (see WebM).

                Tests:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSowadYz-g8
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Euxm3jTM4U&t=30s

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOfEkj0GUWM

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck I remember watching GMLRS strikes in iraq during the early days of YouTube

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This isn’t convincing at all. Looks like they dropped a log onto a cardboard target. I can see why no one is buying what the Koreans are selling when it comes to surface to surface missiles

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh come the fuck on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not even the same missile from launching to impact. The launched missile has a very bright white stripe with no damage. See pic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The impact missile has half the white stripe missing, and damage and discoloration. Not the same missiles. See pic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Proof? Have they been able to hit narrow bridges in combat like the GMLRS? What proof do you have other than a paper stat. Be more like the GMLRS and prove it to the world, otherwise no one’s buying

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's almost like it was not used in combat or something.

              Why do you retards act like HIMARS is some magic tech? Those missiles are 30 years old. Yes Koreans are behind latest US tech but they can make 2m CEP missiles now and are working on better ones.

              All of this barely matters since both systems can use the same missiles. Difference is if you make a deal with Koreans they will let you make those missiles locally. It doesn't matter if you have 20 systems but when you want hundreds like Poland being able to produce them yourself is a game changer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but they can make 2m CEP missiles now and are working on better ones.
                Proof? No one believes you

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread really highlighted how bad the chunmoo is. The fact that they can only produce 2 a month is really bad

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a fucking missile truck
    every missile truck that shoots a certain missile is about as good as every other missile truck that shoots the same missile
    it has to drive and it has to have missile launchers on the back, it's not fucking rocket science, is it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I…it’s just as good as the cream of the crop HIMARS
      >what do you mean mobility, an internal crane, and US designed munitions make it better than copemoo!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mobility is largely irrelevant, every truck has roughly the same mobility as every other truck, you're splitting hairs at that point

        >internal crane
        chances are you have a crane where you reload it and you're not bringing extra ammo, what is this a fucking TOS?

        >US designed munitions
        If it can shoot those, who cares which truck you shoot them from. The magic happens in the missile, not the truck.

        It's a truck with a rocket launcher on it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the fact that my truck weighs 10 tons more is just hair splitting!
          >small yellow penis good!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is it though?
            It's a big truck, it drives. If you can do 35-40 miles an hour you're good. Sure, the HIMARS goes like 50 miles, but you can buy whatever you want and it will not significantly impact your capabilties unless you are trying to strech 16 launchers across about 1000 miles of front line.

            It is simply not as important as you make it out to be. Sure, the HIMARS is the better system, but fundamentally the advantages it has over the chingchongmoo or whatever it's called are marginal.
            They're both trucks that drive and they both shoot NATO missiles. What more could you wish for.

            Again, it's about the missile you buy, not the launcher.

            If it really was that simple then why can’t SK sell any chunmoo while the US is drowning in HIMARS orders? Vatniks have rocket trucks too why didn’t they achieve similar results as the HIMARS? Do you think the GMLRS having the smallest CEP of all guided rockets has anything to do with it?

            >Vatniks have rocket trucks too why didn’t they achieve similar results as the HIMARS?
            Their missiles are shit, that's my point. It's not about the truck, but the missile you fire from it

            >Do you think the GMLRS having the smallest CEP of all guided rockets has anything to do with it?
            The changmoo can fire GMLRS, that's why the whole "oh HIMARS so much better than moronshit truck" is so stupid. They both shoot the same missiles.

            Maybe if Korea wanted to sell some chunmoo they should have donated them to Ukraine to blow up some Russians.

            also, basically this, HIMARS has a PR advantage and it is now the thing people think of when they think "missile truck".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The changmoo can fire GMLRS, that's why the whole "oh HIMARS so much better than moronshit truck" is so stupid. They both shoot the same missiles.
              US isn’t prioritizing sending GMLRS to moronlaunchers. If you buy the moron launcher realistically you have to settle for moron copies of GMLRS

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US isn’t prioritizing sending GMLRS to moronlaunchers
                and that is the argument to buy HIMARS, because by buying it you get the ammo.
                But chances are the morons can clone something that is "good enough" and maybe even sell it for less than GMLRS.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks Korea can clone the US mil gps network
                >he thinks the Koreans can offer satellite or other targeting support like the US offers
                it can’t, and that’s ok

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again, "good enough" is all you need

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then why isn’t anyone buying the good enough? Because it isn’t good enough that’s why

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because right now the order backlog for the HIMARS isn't long enough. Of course you are buying your first choice, but if you have to wait a 5 to 10 years to get it, you're probably gonna go to the next best thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SK can’t pump out chunmoo quickly. I’m not sure where the Korean powerhouse of manufacturing meme came from but it is just a meme. So far they have only shown the ability to produce 2 a month.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and maybe even sell it for less than GMLRS.
                See:

                That's an ATACMS copy.
                [...]
                >Why? When you can simply go for a Korean alternative at more than half the price.
                The UAE bought 12 Chomos for a package price of $804,497,568 USD. That's $67,041,464/Unit. The M270A1 costs $2,300,000/unit. Even if the M270A2 is double the price, it's - let's be generous to the Chomo - 5 times cheaper than the Chomo. You moron shills are quite the retards.

                >“Significant deals with UAE companies today include the contract which was put in place with Yas Holding, purchasing Korean Chunmoo launchers and missiles, at a value of Dhs2.955bn.
                https://gulfbusiness.com/deals-worth-dhs17-913bn-signed-by-uae-armed-forces-at-idex-navdex/

                Being generous with the per-unit price of the Chomo puts it at $25mil/unit. That's 5 times as much as a HIMARS, and 10 times as much as the M270A1. It's a shitty, less capable M270 on wheels. Which means it can't access terrain the M270 can, leading to less firing options for the K239 Chomo. It's 2 times the weight of a HIMARS, slower than the HIMARS, slower to set up, reload, and reposition than the HIMARS, 1.43 times the ground pressure than the HIMARS, and can't access areas the HIMARS can. It's as if they combined the worst of the M270 and HIMARS and made a system out of it at 5 - 10 times the price. A literal piece of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's as if they combined the worst of the M270 and HIMARS and made a system out of it at 5 - 10 times the price. A literal piece of shit.
                You just described the Korean MIC. Have you forgotten that you can’t bring certain Samsung phones onto airplanes because they have a tendency to incinerate themselves.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are so obsessed with "what is the bestest weapon" that you lose sight of reality.
                What you are doing is equivalent to Russian HIMARS wunderwaffle posting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who’s losing sight of reality? The thread is to laugh at the chunmoo for not securing any export sales. If you get mad when people explain why the HIMARS is so much better that’s your fault.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But so far the only argument I have seen is "US sells missiles faster to you if you buy HIMARS".
                Because at the end of the day, it is a truck with a missile launcher on it. I could probably throw together a technical that can do the same and it would probably perform as well as these two weapon systems, if you feed it the correct missiles.

                You cannot refute this at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s just what you chose to see. This poster

                >and maybe even sell it for less than GMLRS.
                See: [...]
                Being generous with the per-unit price of the Chomo puts it at $25mil/unit. That's 5 times as much as a HIMARS, and 10 times as much as the M270A1. It's a shitty, less capable M270 on wheels. Which means it can't access terrain the M270 can, leading to less firing options for the K239 Chomo. It's 2 times the weight of a HIMARS, slower than the HIMARS, slower to set up, reload, and reposition than the HIMARS, 1.43 times the ground pressure than the HIMARS, and can't access areas the HIMARS can. It's as if they combined the worst of the M270 and HIMARS and made a system out of it at 5 - 10 times the price. A literal piece of shit.

                did a good job explaining why it’s mobility is better and logistical strain is much lighter

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry but “just as good” cope doesn’t sell units.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But so far the only argument I have seen is "US sells missiles faster to you if you buy HIMARS".
                I see you chose to ignore my posts. I'll link them for your easy, and pleasurable reading experience:
                Low production output capabilities:

                SK has built 200 since 2014. That 2 units per month. They don't have the production capacity to fulfill a 200-500 unit order. Even if the morons doubled their production rate to 4 units/month it would take 5 - 10 YEARS before Poland got their units, not even taking into account spare parts, and ammunition. Tell your moron boss the money shilling on PrepHole is better spent upgrading the production lines to have an actual capacity to build them.

                At least 5 - 10 times the per-unit price of the HIMARS and M20A1:

                That's an ATACMS copy.
                [...]
                >Why? When you can simply go for a Korean alternative at more than half the price.
                The UAE bought 12 Chomos for a package price of $804,497,568 USD. That's $67,041,464/Unit. The M270A1 costs $2,300,000/unit. Even if the M270A2 is double the price, it's - let's be generous to the Chomo - 5 times cheaper than the Chomo. You moron shills are quite the retards.

                >“Significant deals with UAE companies today include the contract which was put in place with Yas Holding, purchasing Korean Chunmoo launchers and missiles, at a value of Dhs2.955bn.
                https://gulfbusiness.com/deals-worth-dhs17-913bn-signed-by-uae-armed-forces-at-idex-navdex/

                ,

                >and maybe even sell it for less than GMLRS.
                See: [...]
                Being generous with the per-unit price of the Chomo puts it at $25mil/unit. That's 5 times as much as a HIMARS, and 10 times as much as the M270A1. It's a shitty, less capable M270 on wheels. Which means it can't access terrain the M270 can, leading to less firing options for the K239 Chomo. It's 2 times the weight of a HIMARS, slower than the HIMARS, slower to set up, reload, and reposition than the HIMARS, 1.43 times the ground pressure than the HIMARS, and can't access areas the HIMARS can. It's as if they combined the worst of the M270 and HIMARS and made a system out of it at 5 - 10 times the price. A literal piece of shit.

                Higher ground pressure per wheel than the HIMARS, and much higher than the M70 tacks:

                >Well, actually Himars has only 4 wheels compared to 8 wheels on K239
                The M142 HIMARS has 6 wheels, brainlet.

                >so the actual ground pressure is lower on the latter
                The M142 HIMARS weighs 35,800lbs with 6 wheels. The K239 Chomo LIMARS weighs 68,000lbs with 8 wheels.
                >35,800/6 = 5,967lbs per wheel
                >68,000/8 = 8,500lbs per wheel
                Each K239 Chomo LIMARS wheel carries 1.43 times more weight than each HIMARS wheel. That's not going into wheel width and variable contact patch area due to tire inflation pressure.

                >so it's just an easy physics really if you've been focusing in your class.
                Seems you didn't pay attention in your math, nor English classes. I thought Asians were good at math? Or is it the notorious lying trait all Asians are known for, taking over?

                Less mobile, firing position handicapped due to higher ground pressure, slower operation, etc.:

                >Mobility is largely irrelevant, every truck has roughly the same mobility as every other truck, you're splitting hairs at that point
                Mobility is hugely important. Especially when the ground pressure of the K239 Chomo is 1.43 times that of the HIMARS ([...]). Meaning you can't get into softer terrain that the HIMARS can. Compromising your range, and ability to hide from counter fire.

                crane
                >chances are you have a crane where you reload it and you're not bringing extra ammo, what is this a fucking TOS?
                >Chances
                Slower reloading, and more vehicles grouped together, give your enemy the ability to spot you easier for counter fire offenses.

                >>US designed munitions
                >If it can shoot those, who cares which truck you shoot them from. The magic happens in the missile, not the truck.
                Why would you pay $25mil for a knock-off of a HIMARS that costs $5mil, just to shoot US missiles? You could buy a combat proven HIMARS and save $20mil to spend on more US missiles for it. It makes absolutely zero sense to spend $20mil more on something less effective, untested in combat, less mobile, and slower to set up, shoot, reload, and relocate.
                >It's a truck with a rocket launcher on it.
                Cope at its finest.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you upset that you can’t refute the points brought up about the HIMARS better mobility allowing it to go where chunmoo can not, loading sequence that doesn’t require support vehicles, lower price, combat tested rockets? It’s better than chunmoo and everyone knows it, that’s why it has export sales and the chunmoo does not

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >allowing it to go where chunmoo can not
                The whole point of these trucks and they way they have been used in Ukraine is driving on roads and in that regard, it's just a truck. Chances are you don't want to drive this thing somewhere that isn't a road.

                >loading sequence that doesn’t require support vehicles
                Sure, but I ask you this, how do you get the fucking ammo there in the first place?
                You'd put it on some sort of vehicle. Sure, the internal crane means you now can use any truck to resupply your HIMARS instead of needing a second truck, but you still need two trucks and you're not going to be running very many resupply missions where the enemy can find you and shoot at you. It is a valid point, but it is not a gamechanger.

                >lower price
                Sure, but the HIMARS is 90s tech, of course it's fairly cheap.

                >combat tested rockets
                they shoot the same rockets.

                It is just a truck with missiles on it, there is not that much to it. Yes, one is currently a better deal than the other, but that's all there is to it.
                It's just a truck with rockets, the russians managed to build and use one of those, it's not a magical wunderwaffe that needs insane specs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The whole point of these trucks and they way they have been used in Ukraine is driving on roads
                They do drive on roads but you have absolutely no idea where they are being shot from. There’s been videos in open fields with HIMARS

                A truck can drop off pre staged rockets that the HIMARS can just go and pick up. The supply truck doesn’t have to wait around and load the HIMARS like a bunch of retatds who can’t figure out logistics. Embarrassing you couldn’t put that together

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There’s been videos in open fields with HIMARS
                have you ever been outside, genuine question.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How? I'm saying, why would you pay at least $25mil for the Chomo when the superior HIMARS costs $5mil, and the superior M270 costs $2.3mil? If the K239 was cheaper than the HIMARS and M270, yet was 'good enough', you would have an argument. It's not, it's 5 - 10 times the price per-unit of the HIMARS ans M270, while combining the worst attributes of each system. HIMARS and M270 are objectively better in every way, there's no questioning that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HIMARS and M270 are objectively better in every way, there's no questioning that.
                Nobody is questioning. What you're doing is pretending that HIMARS is a miracle weapons, when it is just a missile truck.

                >But so far the only argument I have seen is "US sells missiles faster to you if you buy HIMARS".
                I see you chose to ignore my posts. I'll link them for your easy, and pleasurable reading experience:
                Low production output capabilities: [...]
                At least 5 - 10 times the per-unit price of the HIMARS and M20A1: [...], [...]
                Higher ground pressure per wheel than the HIMARS, and much higher than the M70 tacks: [...]
                Less mobile, firing position handicapped due to higher ground pressure, slower operation, etc.: [...]

                Same goes to you.
                You are vastly overselling what HIMARS is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody is questioning.
                Well, you can't. It would be stupid to do so.
                >What you're doing is pretending that HIMARS is a miracle weapons
                How so? It was designed to do a certain job, and does it very well. Nothing miraculous about that, is it?
                >when it is just a missile truck.
                As is the moron Chomo. It just happens to be much better than any other 'missile truck' designed to do the same job. You can try to reduce it all you want. Doesn't negate the fact it is the best in the world at being, 'just a missile truck. Much better at it than anything any other country can field. Even when the morons try to copy it and the M270A1/2 they fail. Taking the worst attributes of both systems and combining them into the moron Chomo; instead of taking the best attributes of both systems and combining them - you know, like an intelligent person would do. Cope all you want. The moron Chomo is shit, and that's reflected by the abysmal sales, and astronomical price pre-unit.

                >But so far the only argument I have seen is "US sells missiles faster to you if you buy HIMARS".
                I see you chose to ignore my posts. I'll link them for your easy, and pleasurable reading experience:
                Low production output capabilities: [...]
                At least 5 - 10 times the per-unit price of the HIMARS and M20A1: [...], [...]
                Higher ground pressure per wheel than the HIMARS, and much higher than the M70 tacks: [...]
                Less mobile, firing position handicapped due to higher ground pressure, slower operation, etc.: [...]

                (You)
                >Same goes to you.
                Both posts are mine.

                >You are vastly overselling what HIMARS is.
                How, exactly? I'm explaining exactly why it is better than the moron Chomo. Directly comparing pro/cons of two systems designed to do the same job. Not my fault, the HIMARS and M270 are that much better at their job than the moron Chomo.

                >Like what? You didn't have real HIMARS data until few weeks ago either.
                Only if you haven't actually paid attention.

                >Afghanistan:

                >Iraq:

                These are just a sample, and ones that have the impact. They've been combat tested and proven since Desert Storm. Only a disingenuous shill, or brainlet doesn't know this. Ask Russian Wagner in Syria how effective GLMRS are (see WebM).

                Tests:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSowadYz-g8
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Euxm3jTM4U&t=30s

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOfEkj0GUWM

                More HIMARS in combat action.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mobility is largely irrelevant, every truck has roughly the same mobility as every other truck, you're splitting hairs at that point
          Mobility is hugely important. Especially when the ground pressure of the K239 Chomo is 1.43 times that of the HIMARS (

          >Well, actually Himars has only 4 wheels compared to 8 wheels on K239
          The M142 HIMARS has 6 wheels, brainlet.

          >so the actual ground pressure is lower on the latter
          The M142 HIMARS weighs 35,800lbs with 6 wheels. The K239 Chomo LIMARS weighs 68,000lbs with 8 wheels.
          >35,800/6 = 5,967lbs per wheel
          >68,000/8 = 8,500lbs per wheel
          Each K239 Chomo LIMARS wheel carries 1.43 times more weight than each HIMARS wheel. That's not going into wheel width and variable contact patch area due to tire inflation pressure.

          >so it's just an easy physics really if you've been focusing in your class.
          Seems you didn't pay attention in your math, nor English classes. I thought Asians were good at math? Or is it the notorious lying trait all Asians are known for, taking over?

          ). Meaning you can't get into softer terrain that the HIMARS can. Compromising your range, and ability to hide from counter fire.

          crane
          >chances are you have a crane where you reload it and you're not bringing extra ammo, what is this a fucking TOS?
          >Chances
          Slower reloading, and more vehicles grouped together, give your enemy the ability to spot you easier for counter fire offenses.

          >>US designed munitions
          >If it can shoot those, who cares which truck you shoot them from. The magic happens in the missile, not the truck.
          Why would you pay $25mil for a knock-off of a HIMARS that costs $5mil, just to shoot US missiles? You could buy a combat proven HIMARS and save $20mil to spend on more US missiles for it. It makes absolutely zero sense to spend $20mil more on something less effective, untested in combat, less mobile, and slower to set up, shoot, reload, and relocate.
          >It's a truck with a rocket launcher on it.
          Cope at its finest.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would you pay $25mil for a knock-off of a HIMARS that costs $5mil, just to shoot US missiles?
            You wouldn’t, and no one is. It’s only sold 13 units

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it really was that simple then why can’t SK sell any chunmoo while the US is drowning in HIMARS orders? Vatniks have rocket trucks too why didn’t they achieve similar results as the HIMARS? Do you think the GMLRS having the smallest CEP of all guided rockets has anything to do with it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe if Korea wanted to sell some chunmoo they should have donated them to Ukraine to blow up some Russians.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that wouldn’t have done much to boost sales because the HIMARS got sent. Would you rather buy the system that’s taking out ammo dumps everyday or the Korean system that has a much larger CEP? If the HIMARS never went to Ukraine then it would make sense sending the chunmoo. You don’t want to put a 5/10 daughter next to a 10/10 daughter when trying to find a husband for the 5/10

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They have like a dozen HIMARS. Plenty of Russians to go around.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat man and little boy are better than both

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This SK shill is as delusional as warriortard defending the warrior.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny that since WWII, mobile rocket arty has been associated with Russian and Commie block armies. Suddenly, the West and allies leapfrogged them with HIMARS et al.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he doesn't know

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s an ATACMS clone. Not impressive

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