Let the bodies hit the floor

Let the bodies hit the floor

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait so we had like 200k at the beginning of the war, then 300k in a partial mobilization, now 500k more, correct me if i got those numbers wrong but what the actual fuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      none of those actually happened. i wish there was a russian exhausted enough with all of this to tell it how it is, i for one am bored of vatnik this hohol that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has tried to IP bann PrepHole, they've done it with shit like Kiwi Farms so it wouldn't be a shocker. Those poor Russian anons

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Those poor Russian anons
          Is ok. They in better place now ...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i for one am bored of vatnik this hohol that.
        BUT NOOO!!! IT'S OVER FOR RUSSIA!!! THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO LOSE THE WAR THE 3RD WEEK IN BUT YOU KNOW THE HOLIDAYS AND STUFF CAME UP!!! WE NEED TO SEND THE garden gnomeS MORE TANKS SO THEY CAN WIN!!! ONLY 5,000,000 RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE DIED WE NEED TO KILL MORE!!! IS IT OVER FOR RUSSIA!!!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. The amount of pro garden gnomekranian shiling on this board is disgusting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It would help if Russians stopped acting like total barbarians.

            WHO the fuck steals toddlers?

            https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-46-ukraine-toddlers-were-disappeared-by-putin-in-one-fell-swoop

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Muslims
              morons

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >garden gnomekranian
            hello pol.
            what does "garden gnomekraniaian" even mean?
            explain to us non-retards.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Am ru anon. Don't know what you expected to hear? I only kno that there was initial group of like 180k, than they moobilized, but mobilization also pressganged those who finished their conscription service to continue serving, iirc. That's some 150k somewhat competent soldiers(still of shit quality and probably less than that survived the initial push since they were used in ukraine proper as well as guards for backline logistics). Also there should be another such wave of those that were conscripted in spring(same applies)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like ~120k at the beginning but yes shit's fucked.
      He's going to send every possible rebel / insurgent to die in Ukraine so we doesn't need to worry about any military aged males at home.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        4chan keeps saying the garden gnomes plan to repopulate Ukraine with doctors, scientists and engineers
        They simply got the country wrong

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pol should be shut down, it's userbase euthanized.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >More like ~120k
        ~190k + ~50k donbabweans
        Both were continously reinforced
        Then they declared mobilization and managed to mobilize smth like ~250k more

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And yet, with all those numbers, Russians still can't compete with Ukrainians, lol.

          Russia is well and truly fucked.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget all the reinforcements sent between February 24th and the announcement of the partial mobilization.

        [...]
        The initial invasion force gets lower and lower all the time.

        >The initial invasion get lower and lower all the time
        I've noticed vatmorons doing this more and more
        >Th-the 160k initial invasion, did I say 150k? I ackshully meant 130k....
        No bigger don't change the narrative now, Russia invaded with 190k+ on February plus Wagners plus whatever separatist forces
        And they've been doing the same with the mobik wave, no bigger it wasn't less than 100k mobiks, Putin mobilized 300k retards and wagner mobilized 50k more convicts
        Don't let vatmoronoids rewrite history

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody but the Russian leadership knows how many were actually mobilized in september. 300k was mentioned on tv but the part of the decree that specified the number was kept secret so it could be any amount.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely correct but understated

      150k at start of war
      100k reserves committed
      both regular army left 100k

      300k mobiks, trained between 0-3 months
      left 100k fighting and another 100k about to start, now attacking soledar and bakhmut

      now 500k mobiks, barely trained again

      Not counting prisoners, this is 250k casualties/captured which is exactly the number given by bongs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >300k mobiks, trained between 0-3 months
        mobiks from the first mobilization trained 1 to 2 weeks

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think 80,000 were sent direct to frontlines because they served conscription in the last 5 years

          the front was collapsing then

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and by training they sat around during that time in fields and warehouses doing nothing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't fall for western propaganda anon, during that time they:
            >washed the commanders car
            >did maintenance on his house
            >got hired out as cheap labor to farmers
            >got hired out as cheap bussy to gays
            I would say they learnt more in those few months than the average westener does in a lifetime.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget all the reinforcements sent between February 24th and the announcement of the partial mobilization.

      More like ~120k at the beginning but yes shit's fucked.
      He's going to send every possible rebel / insurgent to die in Ukraine so we doesn't need to worry about any military aged males at home.

      The initial invasion force gets lower and lower all the time.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2 more weeks until russias collapse amerimutt sources say
    surely

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But insider is a german thing.
      " It is a subsidiary of the German publisher Axel Springer SE, the largest in Europe."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never trust west sources

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep coping Ivan

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    REASON WHAT FOR

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For their sake, they better plan the offensive more thoughtfully this time, then again, i fucking doubt it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      russian plan

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >500k is literally a big city
    What the fuck?
    How is he gonna equip them?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i wonder when will they start stampong smgs again

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sheet metal might be a lost technology to them at this point.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they still stamp ak12 receivers so they must know at least something

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most of them are rotted inside out long ago

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes but the soldiers dont need to know that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe I bought the longest serving rifle for under 100 dollary doos. Thanks Putin for making sure it'll be the eternal king.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One man gets a riffle, when he is killed the man behind it picks it up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man, this will never not be bleak to me. Even during the American Civil War, the Confederates still managed to arm their soldiers and militia men and never told them "Lol, scavenge a weappn from your dead ally."

        Not even World War 1 Russia was like this and still armed everybody for the war.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The difference is that not you need significantly more stuff to equip an infantry company in order to make it combat effective. Giving every soldier a rifle, 5 magazines and 300 rounds of ammo is not sufficient. You need optics, coms, beltfeds, company level mortars, supply vehicles and a lot more ammo per day. And that would still be like WW2 standard.
          If we are talking post WW2 high intensity warfare, the rifles are the least of your concern.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3rd man gets helmet, 4th gets boots, 5th gets body armor 6th one a granade, etc...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the neat part, they won't be.

      Like good Russian soldiers they will die for the Tsar and 500.000 more will be sent. Putin is a cornered rat, and as long as he lived people will be sent to their deaths.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turns out if you've blown through your tank and IFV stockpile, and the enemy can murder all of your trucks at will, you can get around it by forming rifle divisions. Like the Soviets did in 1941. Rifles are handed out, fresh production or from stockpile, you give them whatever fire support weapons you can come up with (RPG series now, things like watercooled machine guns/mortars/infantry guns back in WW2), flood the place with whatever relatively light direct/indirect fire cannons you can find (I suspect we're going to see some old, and I mean OLD, Soviet weapons come out of this) and hold the line until you can start up IFV production and build up armored/mechanized divisions. These units won't do maneuver warfare, but they don't have to. By virtue of having tons of men they're hard to get through unless you have overwhelming armored support.

      I suspect if this keeps going we're going to see a return to relatively old (by western standards) weapons, think KS-19s and the like. I doubt Russia could shit out hundreds of T-72s at short notice but I think they can sort out artillery.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but I think they can sort out artillery.
        Ukraine has the NATO-designed equipment that was literally designed to counter masses of old Soviet artillery.

        The entire reason why all the NATO 155s have high mobilty, MRSI capability and datalink to counterbattery radars is delete the masses of toweed/unprotected artillery the Soviets had.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes anon, but they don't have very much of it and it's not being used in the types of units NATO planners envisaged. At the moment M777s are being used like normal artillery and HIMARS is being used both in its intended role and as a substitute for aircraft. We're not going to see the proper rape until Ukraine gets the M109s and attaches them to a trained mechanized unit. I expect to see this around July.

          >I doubt Russia could shit out hundreds of T-72s at short notice but I think they can sort out artillery.
          Not in terms of ammunition which will be the real limiting factor. Early in the war they burned through huge amounts of artillery ammo to compensate for their manpower disadvantage, now they are having to ration it to sustain the war. The thing with poorly trained and equipped conscripts is that they're shit for offensives but help a great deal in terms of simply being able to man the whole front. If you're constantly throwing small attacks at your enemy, no matter how poor the attacks are, your enemy is forced to keep defenders there and to use up ammunition. It can also disrupt enemy plans for future offensives in the area, which is exactly what Russia is trying to do in Luhansk oblast.

          Honestly artillery shells are relatively simple to make compared to armored vehicles or aircraft. I don't think there's much public information about Russian efforts here but considering the US has been dumping money into artillery shell production and Ukraine has been starting up entire new factories, I can see Russia doing it too.

          As for your point about manning the line, yes I agree. That's mostly the point. It worked in WW2 and I'm assuming the Russians have either convinced themselves it will work again or have just run out of ideas. Either way if they're going to do it we'll end up seeing the full scale of losses achievable when you put a static conscript army filled with rifle divisions up against an enemy conducting maneuver warfare. If you think 100,000 dead is a lot now, just wait.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Ukrainians KNOW the Russian playbook, probably better than the Russians know it themselves. They can run rings around these poor lost circus performers.

            Russian conscripts lack the basic competence to do any kind of real maneuver warfare, and their local commanders lack the authority to exploit facts on the ground. Ukrainians will simply outmaneuver the Russians.

            On top of this, Ukrainians actually WANT to fight Russians. They are really pissed off.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, we know all of this anon. That doesn't mean there isn't a discussion to be had about how Russia could form new units and fight.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Forming units is one thing. Finding the officers for them is another.

                A ton of Russian junior officers and NCOs are already dead, and so are their trainers.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trips of truth. Training leaders is way more time consuming than training grunts and there is substantially less capacity to do so. How many LTs would Russia have to train, what is the capacity of their officer schools and how long does basic officer training take?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There absolutely should be discussion about that. My questions would be how Russia plans to house, train, equip, supply and lead these people. Handing out AKs and two combat loads of ammo does not do the trick.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not about the shells, fuzes are the bottleneck.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Elaborate please. I know a bit about the different types of fuzes and the production of the VT fuze in WW2 but other than that I'm clueless. What sort of ratio are we looking at between shells and fuzes (so how many shells can I produce in a given amount of time vs how many fuzes?) and what sort of investment would be needed to up fuze production vs shell production?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is that fuzes are relatively high tech compared to shells. You need different levels of quality control, higher skilled workers and different machinery. This machinery needs more maintenance which again requires more highly skilled workers. Scaling up shell production is substantially easier than scaling up fuze production.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I doubt Russia could shit out hundreds of T-72s at short notice but I think they can sort out artillery.
        Not in terms of ammunition which will be the real limiting factor. Early in the war they burned through huge amounts of artillery ammo to compensate for their manpower disadvantage, now they are having to ration it to sustain the war. The thing with poorly trained and equipped conscripts is that they're shit for offensives but help a great deal in terms of simply being able to man the whole front. If you're constantly throwing small attacks at your enemy, no matter how poor the attacks are, your enemy is forced to keep defenders there and to use up ammunition. It can also disrupt enemy plans for future offensives in the area, which is exactly what Russia is trying to do in Luhansk oblast.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sticks and stones like the Chinese and Indian armies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One man gets a rifle. When he dies, the nine behind him pick it up.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >West: how many covid deaths do you have China?
    >China : ehhhhhh FIVE.
    >West: Five hundred thousand?
    >China: no no, just give.
    >West: Hmmmmmmmmm

    >West: how many men are you going to mobilize Russia?
    >Russia: 500,000
    >West: hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    What's up with that region and lying so much?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ancient mongol secret.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think its largely because these regions have been molded by centuries (millenia) of despotic, "infallible" rule. they lie because they feel like it makes them look better and no one can stop them.

      europe turned out different because of the plague killing so many peasants. peasants bargaining for rights essentially ended extractive economies, weakened rulers and created the middle class, which in turn created a bit of accountability in the system. russia and china never had the plague, so their leadership was free to enact whatever on their peoples. and that coincidentally is why they generally suck at everything

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        China DID have the plague though.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >China had several epidemics and famines from 1200 to the 1350s and its population decreased from an estimated 125million to 65million in the late 14th century
          oh

          well then

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can't even properly arm and feed the previous 300k mobiks, what the fuck makes them think they can handle the supply of 500k? They don't even have enough vehicles to strategically move those troops around. It's just going to be bunches of headless chickens running around in dirt fields

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those are just human waves.
      Also, I doubt even a million deaths will be enough to "collapse" Putin.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doubt even a million deaths will be enough to "collapse" Putin
        Agreed.

        But, other things will collapse before then. It's a house of cards. Keep blowing on it and helping it along.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tons of troops
    >Hardly any vehicles to transport them

    Grab the popcorn.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    russian losses going up-up-up!

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    500,000 is almost 2% of Ukrainian pre-war population, including old people, children, women. And for Russia, it's less than 0.4% of it's population, which is a bit younger than ukrainian and is still rising due to higher fertility rates and net migration surplus. Sad to admit, but if Russia actually manages to mobilize so many soldiers, the future of Ukraine seems bleak. A few dozens of Bradleys and Marders won't radically change this situation in Ukraine's favor, Ukrainian army needs not only IFVs and trucks, but also MBTs and aircraft, hundreds of these.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sad to admit, but if Russia actually manages to mobilize so many soldiers, the future of Ukraine seems bleak.
      if anything, its the future of russia that seems bleak.
      just throwing more meat-bags at the enemy wont do the trick.

      i think the world figured it out in 1914 already, but russians need a few centuries to catch up with the rest of the planet.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How will they even house and feed these people? And what will it do to the russian economy if you keep draining fighting age males when they are already in a demographic crisis?
    Did anybody calculate how many BTRs you would need to form motor rifle batallions with that many people? Even if you just use 100k as combat troops, that would be ridiculous numbers of vehicles. How are they building, fueling, maintaining, arming and servicing them?

    Because if they put these guys on trucks, 80% will be dead before they even make it to the edge of the engagement area.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I predict plenty of happiness in 2023...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually sad. I'm sad it's not more.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bring on the carnage. It will only lead to the collapse of the Russian Government sooner.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if it doesn't deliver victory, Putin will pic related

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if you will, needing to mobilize half a million troops for regional conflict you started against an opposing force that strictly speaking is inferior in both manpower and material, for a war that was suppose to end in three days.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only way you can end up there is drastically over estimating your own strength, drastically under estimating the enemies strength and being in a political situation where just walking away isn't an option.
      What kind of idiot would find themselves in that position?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely the right time to swamp the place with 400 Bradleys, 200 Artillery and Europe can take care of all the tanks. Add support for volunteers and special forces too

    Doesn't matter the equipment model or the age, this is the golden opportunity to kill RUSSIANS on a world war scale.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine 50,000 Russians rise up from their ditch with a terrible scream of OORAH and start to run towards a line of 50 Bradleys 2km away, which are standing still being shelled by inaccurate 1960s artillery.

    Ammunition of Bradley A2ODS each

    25 mm M242 Bushmaster - 900 rounds

    M240C medium machine gun - 2200 rounds

    ATGM - 3 rounds

    AK rifles x 4 - 720 rounds

    Running over Russians with 30 tonne treads - all day long

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    billions must mobilize

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