>leopard tanks being shipped to Odessa Posted on May 5, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor >leopard tanks being shipped to Odessa Why would they send them to Odessa?
From there to Kherson?
They can't be seriously considering to cross the Dnipro in force
It's what would be least expected by the Russians (and everyone else). So obviously Russia will likely have less troops there, making it a perfect place to attack (assuming you can get across the river).
Well, not anymore, because some retard filmed the tanks
1. They have a mostly intact bridge that could still be repaired. Russia isn't nearly as adept as Ukraine at taking out bridges. It would also be good bait to destroy Russian aircraft who try to take it out.
2. They got a ton of bridging equipment from allies to build mobile, moveable, alternatives that Russia can't really defend against. Ukraine had trouble with Russia doing the same thing.
3. They have boats and barges to move additional supplies.
4. It is at the extreme end of Russia's supply lines, making it hard area to resupply if Russia gets into an extended engagement.
5. Russia doesn't have many troops there compared to other places of advance. It would also possibly collapse other defensive lines as they tried to pull back and defend Crimea.
6. It outflanks a lot of their prepared defenses to avoid fortifications.
7. Although it has risks due to the limited supply across the Dnipro, Kherson is a major hub, so getting supplies there is easy, it will only be the last 1KM that is a challenge.
8. Ukraine has been hitting Russia positions for months
9. Ukraine has removed the civilians locally for OPSEC.
For kherson? Where else do you think? People have predicted that western tanks will be used on kherson rather than donbass.
There's no functioning bridge over the Dnipro that can hold an MBT
Anon, they literally have portable bridges that can move armor vehicles across waters.
no they dont the dnepr isn't a creek. none of the bridgelaying vehicles ukraine has/got can make a bridge across it why do you think russia was forced to make shitty pontoon bridges when they also have bridgelaying vehicles
>when they also have bridgelaying vehicles
I can answer this, actually. I discussed this very early on. Basically Russian doctrine says that if the gap is over a certain length (I think it was 500m but it might have been 300) then you're suppose to use ships to transport across, not using the bridge layer.
but the dnepr is like 1km wide meaning no bridgelaying vehicle can cross it so if they really wanted to attack they would have to lay down pontoons. i recall earlier in this war someone else tried pontooning at a much more narrow river and it ended up losing them like 50 afvs but what do i know
No but you can theoretically merge lots and lots of rigs together. The Bongs and Germans have the current record, which is 350 metres.
But this took 34 to do it. So you could, I guess, triple that amount and get your 1km.
>t. Yuri Tarovich, Keev oblast
>someone else tried
Who do you think? I'M PONTOOOOOOOOONING
>the dnepr is like 1km wide
With islands every few hundred meters in the delta area. There are many places you could cross if you have enough bridging units, which means you could flow a lot of gear very fast once those bridges are up, and it would be tough for the Russians to stop them all. I've been predicting a counteroffensive across the dniepr delta for months.
Jerries also gave them pontoon bridges
"Bridging equipment" with no further details has been showing up in aid package descriptions for a year now
Nova kakhovas dam can
It would be interesting to know how damage the Dams bridge is and how damage the normal bridge is
Because I personally only ever saw russians detonate the Ukrainian side which could mean that the rest of the bridge could be usable aslong as ukies find a way to quickly replace the broken part on their side
Though Himars strike damage is probably still there so maybe still unusable for heavy equipment
I've always wondered if there is a way to cover tanks so you don't know they're tanks. Surely them being photographed moving to Odessa is a bad thing to let people know? Or is that the point?
Odessa connects to everything, because everything has to connect to Odessa. Best to show the delivery en route to Odessa, to properly demonstrate you have no idea where they will end up.
>yfw the offensive is actually towards Transvestria
whats that? i only heard about transvestitia
because they came into the country through Romania and Odesa is on the way?
Rznow is the 'drop off' point. So they should have been coming from Poland. Not Romania. If they're in Odessa then they're there for a reason, not because they're passing through. By that I mean they might be passing through to Kherson for an attack that way. That's what I mean.
>those tanks appear moving through Odesa, it means they will go Kherson!
No wonder Americans got fooled by Soviets riding their equipment in circles to appear as if they have more of it
>Americans made more weapons and became stronger
Who's the bigger fool in the end?
Again, the entry point for supplies has been from Reznow. That's the delivery place. It is also where Poland is and Poland has the biggest port in the region that can take huge amounts of vehicles. Therefore if they're moving through Odessa then they're moving there for a reason. It might just be to trick Russia into thinking an attack might occur there, it might actually be. Who knows. Still there for a reason. Because Odessa is a different track route from the west of Ukraine.
I'm gonna need a geoloc for this. I don't believe this is Odessa.
What are odds they install snorkels to the leopards to cross the Dnipro?
Looks like pontoon kino is coming back this summer.
why would they go to Odessa?
How wide, how deep, and how far do the catacombs go, OP? No one really knows. What time will it be when you emerge from them? Past or present or future?
Leopards will retake Crimea
I think that retaking Crimea is a bad idea. Since the island is like a fortress.
The best scenario for Crimea would be - blow the bridge, blockade it and perform a pinpoint bombing of russian military there until they give up.
>Odessa connects to everything, because everything has to connect to Odessa
This is why russian wanted it so badly when the war broke out.
Yeah but as I said, Rzesnow is the place where western shit is dropped off and it is connected by three tracks to Ukraine. With shit arriving by Gdnask and then travelling down. If they're going down to Odessa there is a reason for it. Yeah it has a lot of routes but so do other places further north.
Sending via Odesa keeps it closest to NATO borders and thus can benefit from NATO monitoring and is also furthest away from Russian planes and missiles.
I've just not seen NATO aircraft landing anywhere in Romania. Transport aircraft, that is. Tulcea Delta Dunarii Airport is the nearest to the Ukrainian border in Romania so it's possible but I dunno.
Sorry I should have been more clear. I believe they're moving it east in the most southern route their rail network allows. So it went from Rzsezow to Odesa.
Ah. My bad.
Yeah but no C-130's.
they arent using Tulcea airport, they are using Constanta international airport, the recon CL60 and blackhawks pop up there a lot
>retaking Crimea is a bad idea
Every single military that has tried to take Crimea in the last 500 years has succeeded in doing so. It's one of the most vulnerable pieces of clay on the entire planet Earth. It literally sieges itself.
>Since the island is like a fortress.
Thats the problem with it and why its been so easy to take for every land army that tried
I swear you gays think they could hold out for years on that island even though all the land is shit for producing crops and getting drinkable water is also a whole ordeal so they would start having food and water shortages 1 month into the siege
Clearly, they are selling those to Moldova.
inb4 they show up on Kursk
maybe a schizo theory, but maybe they're decoys? throwing off the scent?
its nothing, basically a humvee with a big gun. even sand morons with 1940s rpg can hold a ground against that bottom tier tank
Spoken like someone who doessn't know what they fuck they're talking about.
spoken like a retard who can't even spot the simplest most retarded of memes "its basically a humvee" you gays should know this one at the very least
Lurk more tourists
Don't encourage them anon
leopard 2A5 with armor package is theoretically protected against its own gun from between 30-60 degree frontal arc
not exactly a humvee
They are just moving them around to fuck with the russians.
I wouldn't worry about it
med countries sent them through romania
This, also Ukraine might be moving shit around through random paths so that they are more difficult for the Russians to destroy.
Thought of you guys when I saw this.
Yeah, I caught that and got a solid laugh out of it. I was going to start posting it around here because I don't care if anyone calls me a fag or a retard or a furry.
Thanks for beating me to it. Got another unexpected smile by surprise.
Could UAF drain the dnipro dam and then stop the flow? Would be cool if they did.
Because there are not that many ways to bring them in by rail and showing tanks in the south reinforces russian concerns that the offensive will take place there. You can still ship them to Donbas with relative ease, they are on rail carriages after all.
Its about creating uncertainty.