Lead from shooting

What do you anons do about lead exposure from shooting in the range or even handling your guns? Do you change your clothes before going home along with other precautions?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i cant afford to shoot enough to where this would be an issue
    i just wipe my hands with a d-lead wipe after putting all my stuff away and shower when i get home

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get an air rifle

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i have an airsoft pistol that i dry fire with or just plink in the yard with

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That should be cheaper for you

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah bbs and green gas is $20
            thinking about buying a membership at my range so i dont have to pay the range fee and get unlimited time on a lane but i cant justify a years membership for $200 right now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I had an air rifle and I worry that I lost a few IQ points because of lead exposure.

        I would wipe my hands with dish soap and water, but still, lead accumulates. So it wouldn’t take much exposure to mess me up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I had an air rifle and I worry that I lost a few IQ points because of lead exposure.

          >is the antigunner in the room with us right now?
          Frankly yes
          [...]
          >I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it.
          These threads have been spammed here by antigun teen groups for years.

          >These threads have been spammed here by antigun teen groups for years.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lead free .177 pellets are super cheap nowadays, I use them in my crossman

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You gotta use that gritty hand soap that mechanics use.

          Best way to get it off your hands.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't be ridiculous

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pumice isn't the best, you need isml/edta for significant 'lifting' of the lead

            https://i.imgur.com/D1Kx5vp.png

            There are two ways to reduce lead on your body.

            1. ISML + Citric acid. Hygenall has the patent for this https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060160230A1/en
            2. EDTA, found in other brands.

            The differences from plain soap and water is dramatic.

            https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Ashley-2/publication/239522749_Handwipe_Method_for_Removing_Lead_from_Skin/links/00b4951c1b0eb5ee68000000/Handwipe-Method-for-Removing-Lead-from-Skin.pdf

            [...]
            fuck off. you're literally shouting harmful medical disinformation.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lead removing hand soap, body wash / shampoo, and detergent. I refuse to shoot indoors. I don't eat and minimize drinking when shooting. I wear gloves. I also try and use lead-free ammo (recently got 2000 rounds of lead free 22, it's nifty).
    Overkill? Maybe. But I only have one shot at life and I don't want to lose more IQ points than normal when I grow old

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lead exposure? I sleep with loaded guns in my bed and keep one pressed against my gut whenever I'm outside the house. I'm dying one way or another might as well not be a pansy and worry about such an inane thing when there's dozens of more likely ways I'll croak before the lead gets me. Plus look at boomers, they're alive and well despite there being lead in the air their entire lives and they had it great, clearly their success in youth had to be related to the ambient lead content

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lead can't be that bad for you. Compare the WWII and 1950s generation filled with the stuff versus the people who've chuded out because of the microplastics.

      Your body handles lead exposure by shuttling it into your bones
      Come osteoporosis or a bad fracture that lead is released back into your bloodstream with no way to get rid of it; hence old people going randomly batshit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So if I don't break my bones they'll become heavier with more lead exposure? Like built in brass knuckles, I'll be able to hit harder than you candy ass "healthy lead-free" people

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it actually causes osteoporosis and disrupts vit d and calcium action on bones so you lose density when everything is said and done

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lead can't be that bad for you. Compare the WWII and 1950s generation filled with the stuff versus the people who've chuded out because of the microplastics.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron time fell partially due to lead poisoning

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lead brained fucktard post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Violent crime went down when lead fuel was banned. There is a correlation between lead exposure and behavioral problems. We are still recovering from the that era.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      youre fucking retarded, it does irreversible damage and settles in your bones.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tbh lead does really suck that way. We still should do something about microplastics these however. I'm sure it's fucking people up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you think everyone who was born in the 50s was such a retard as an adult?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lead can't be that bad for you. Compare the WWII and 1950s generation filled with the stuff versus the people who've chuded out because of the microplastics.
      /thread

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'll take what are retarded boomers for 500 Alex.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I shoot at indoor ranges so somewhat worried about it, I should probably get tested…

    Generally I always wash my hands with Dlead in my bathroom whenever I handle firearms or anything gun related and I keep my range bag, muffs, etc in my garage and never bring it into the house. When I go shoot I immediately wash my hands at the range with Dlead, and I head straight home where I take my clothes off once guns are out away and hop into the shower where I shampoo my hair. I don’t use any special lead removing shampoo or detergent. I also don’t use special range shoes like I’ve heard some people doing so I probably track some dust into my house. I figure as long as I diligently mop my floors and vacuum I’ll be fine. Also I regularly get a wet wipe and wipe down my phone, steering wheel, car door handle, etc

    You should avoid eating after a range trip until you get a chance to thoroughly wash your hands AND face, so I don’t go to restaurants on the way back.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I scrub my hands when I get back from the range and when I'm done cleaning my guns. I don't eat or drink when I'm doing those things either. I usually take a shower afterwards, but that's more because I'm due for a shower than having anything to do with lead.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I also try and avoid gassy guns, bullpups.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does having a suppressor make it worse you think, with the gas blow back in your face?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I value my hearing over bones lol. Tuned properly it doesn't really gas more than normal, I am planning on getting the K-SPEC bcg which really cuts down the gas according to some reviews.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        also curious about this
        i would assume if real using a gas specific charging handle and lead mask would be the answer

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        also curious about this
        i would assume if real using a gas specific charging handle and lead mask would be the answer

        Yes, there has been studies that suppressors can contribute to high lead exposure.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lead free primers help

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yea, lead free bullets/primers should be fine as it doesn't have any lead in it. Because suppressors can make all the particles blow back to your face compared to non suppressor shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Got a link to any?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him, but i can't remember where, but suppressors makes lead exposure worse because of the blowback of the shit coming from the gun. Its especially bad if you're indoors.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well you've clearly never owned one or cleaned one but no suppose there given that you are just trying a nonsensical raid to spam lead scare crap because you hate gun owners. Go on what discord/telegram/facebook group are you from or do I have to go and find out?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron, if you owned a suppressorx you know how shit the blowback is. Especially when all that shit coming out of the gun goes towards your face.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dont want lead exposure so i have a pocket carry lcp that I only shoot lead free ammo thru. I dont want a bunch of lead near my balls

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I expose myself to a little bit of lead every day to build up an immunity to lead poisoning

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you anons do about lead exposure from shooting in the range or even handling your guns?
    I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming lead scare nonsense on a firearms board is worth a fuck. I have relative sin their 90s that grew up playing with lead soldiers and cast lead bullets their whole lives and shot regularly 50 50 years, no cancer, no problem what so ever, ate birds with lead shot in them and they are perfectly fine and actually very alert and spry in their old age. Can animals get poisoning from eating flakes of lead paint, sure but lead paint has been banned for a long long time now. Then there is you with your hyperventilating concern posting to try and put people of firearms because muh lead and that works for you because you are mommies special little hypochondriac. Do you have any idea how absurd your generation is when it comes to health? Why don't you OP instead of being a nasal whining sound your whole life go and smoke some cigarettes, drink some booze and maybe even fuck a woman. You fucking sicken me more than lead ever could. Change my clothes my ass. Any decent man washes his hand regularly anyway, do you even have to be told?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no problem
      Isolated factors do not mean anything when there has been studies about the detriments of lead exposure when it comes to psychological/physiological health. Your family members probably suffer problems related to lead in some way or form.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are nauseating and pitiful.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          should we used leaded gas too?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. lead poisoning

            what's so special about lead removing soap compared to regular soap

            Trying to slide this:

            >What do you anons do about lead exposure from shooting in the range or even handling your guns?
            I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming lead scare nonsense on a firearms board is worth a fuck. I have relative sin their 90s that grew up playing with lead soldiers and cast lead bullets their whole lives and shot regularly 50 50 years, no cancer, no problem what so ever, ate birds with lead shot in them and they are perfectly fine and actually very alert and spry in their old age. Can animals get poisoning from eating flakes of lead paint, sure but lead paint has been banned for a long long time now. Then there is you with your hyperventilating concern posting to try and put people of firearms because muh lead and that works for you because you are mommies special little hypochondriac. Do you have any idea how absurd your generation is when it comes to health? Why don't you OP instead of being a nasal whining sound your whole life go and smoke some cigarettes, drink some booze and maybe even fuck a woman. You fucking sicken me more than lead ever could. Change my clothes my ass. Any decent man washes his hand regularly anyway, do you even have to be told?

            >I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming lead scare nonsense on a firearms board is worth a fuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. lead poisoning

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's so special about lead removing soap compared to regular soap

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Regular soap has a hard time removing heavy metals.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get a fucking life. The amount of utter shit you are posting here for no fucking reason.

        >Regular soap has a hard time removing heavy metals
        You are an educational failure as well I see. Are you sacred of guns or people who own guns? Let it all pour out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you sperging out over basic safety shit? All we talking about is reducing lead risk and utilizing cleaning supplies that removes heavy metals efficiently.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's a troll I think.
            this paper is also good btw https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5379568/

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              to add to this paper,
              it's important to realize that a big chunk of the exposure is lead styphnate primers - not the bullet. So using lead free primers is a huge benefit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't be ridiculous. What kind of retarded morons do you think you are addressing with your nonsense.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ctrl-F
                >Primer
                This post is the one of sanity. Metallic lead isn't as absorptive to the human body as other lead molecules which will fuck humans up fast but especially so for organic compounds which will bind like a bitch. This is why leaded gas was phased out.
                Go unironically wear a N95 if you're at an indoor range and wash your hands with lead removing soap if you're really worried.
                >Lead styphnate is mainly used in small arms ammunition for military and commercial applications. It serves as a primary explosive used in firearms primers, which will ignite upon a simple impact
                >As with other lead-containing compounds, lead styphnate is toxic owing to heavy metal poisoning.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. I've found that the lead free primers in Norma ammo are pretty reliable, obviously not at parity yet with potassium perchlorate or regular styphnate primers.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Will you ever stop with this retarded knee trembling crap. There are literally millions and millions and millions of people in their 80s who lived their whole lives in cities full of cars running on lead infinitely more than a recreational shooter will EVER be exposed to. There are a billion things to live in hypochondriac terror of from food quality to pandemic, germs, microplastics, water contamination etc etc. get a fucking life and stop spamming this retarded bullshit. It is not scientific despite your allusions to the contrary. Firearms DO NOT produce a substantial or any much real risk of lead exposure. You would have to fire millions of rounds. neither is doing some casting or soldering now and again going to increase anyone risk of anything much. You are exposed to just as many potentially harmful contaminant vapours frying food. You are a bore and a liar, if you are not a liar you are a mentally ill simpleton who needs to deal with your anxiety.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this poster is posting medical misinformation & trolling. please report. Any number of NIOSH reports will show that ranges have extremely high lead poisoning rates.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't the lead in the bullets, it is the lead in the primer and breathing it in poorly ventilated ranges. Meanwhile you can see the IQ recovery from leaded gasoline being phased out (avgas is the last to go and the last holdout).
                If you didn't notice lead in bullets is METALLIC like solder. It is the other forms of lead that human tissue more readily absorbs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/D1Kx5vp.png

        There are two ways to reduce lead on your body.

        1. ISML + Citric acid. Hygenall has the patent for this https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060160230A1/en
        2. EDTA, found in other brands.

        The differences from plain soap and water is dramatic.

        https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Ashley-2/publication/239522749_Handwipe_Method_for_Removing_Lead_from_Skin/links/00b4951c1b0eb5ee68000000/Handwipe-Method-for-Removing-Lead-from-Skin.pdf

        [...]
        fuck off. you're literally shouting harmful medical disinformation.

        well shit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          remember, max autism against lead (my position, using special detergents and shit) isn't necessary. Just try to minimize shooting indoors, don't eat when shooting, and use a couple hygenall wipes when you're done for the day. that's it. maybe get lead levels tested once every couple years.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its nothing to do with autism, your mother was a freak and your her precious and your a mental mess of trembling hypochondriac anti-gun fear mongering nonsense. This is what happens when people are not bullied correctly.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're a pathetic little hyperventilating retard who needs to be given more wedgies. Go have a beer and shut the fuck up.

              yikes!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are two ways to reduce lead on your body.

      1. ISML + Citric acid. Hygenall has the patent for this https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060160230A1/en
      2. EDTA, found in other brands.

      The differences from plain soap and water is dramatic.

      https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Ashley-2/publication/239522749_Handwipe_Method_for_Removing_Lead_from_Skin/links/00b4951c1b0eb5ee68000000/Handwipe-Method-for-Removing-Lead-from-Skin.pdf

      Get a fucking life. The amount of utter shit you are posting here for no fucking reason.

      >Regular soap has a hard time removing heavy metals
      You are an educational failure as well I see. Are you sacred of guns or people who own guns? Let it all pour out.

      fuck off. you're literally shouting harmful medical disinformation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're a pathetic little hyperventilating retard who needs to be given more wedgies. Go have a beer and shut the fuck up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sorry I don't drink, it's literally poison for your body 🙂 beer is gross too

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ngl dawg you sound extremely breedable

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guessed. I bet you spend half an hour popping on rubber gloves and clearing toilet seats with your special sanitation backpack kit every time you take a shit as well. In between having panic attacks at the fact guns are legal and people own things you find dangerous and unacceptable

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >appeals to masculinity to try and ignore how much lead hes exposed himself to by playing with bullet casings.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            those kinds of people can't be argued with, they are incapable of admitting that certain precautions are wise to take in life for one's health. Seatbelts, sodium intake, lead poisoning, whatever. just ignore it

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As pointed out normal people wash their hands regularly anyway. Feel free to don your plastic bubble suit and roll around in it trying to put people off guns because of your hypochondriac fantasies. I'll bet you think Gretta is just wonderful. Going on a hunch there. Do you think about germs much when you are on public transport or guns and germs give you little panic attacks?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No I'm sorry I'm not a trembling wallflower like you and I'll be just fine thanks for your unwanted concern posting. How about all those people who work with solder every day? How fucked are they apparently huh? Off you go and rescue them. Don't worry. Well be fine. Don't forget your special soap and lunch money.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://blink.ucsd.edu/safety/occupational/hazard-control/lead-soldering.html#:~:text=Learn%20about%20lead%20soldering%20safety,and%20muscle%20and%20joint%20pain.
              People that worked with solders are most likely to suffer problems if they don't take precautions.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and they are literally inhaling lead fumes for 20 years. I think we will be fine. You can leave now. Thank you for proving my point.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >inhaling fumes
                As long as you have propper PPE equipment and get regular testing, people that work in soldering should be fine.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are comedy gold. Do you wear full PPE much yourself, a removable over suit, full face mask. Covid must have been a full fucking panic for you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please don't tell me you're a solder worker that doesn't fo basic precautions? No wonder you're sperging this much. The lead is effecting your sense of reasoning.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they
                >we
                The brain damage is apparent. You are already feeble.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does special soap turn you into a spellchecker?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, but it can save your IQ.
                https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/nearly-half-of-the-us-population-exposed-to-dangerously-high-lead-levels#:~:text=Childhood%20lead%20exposure%20among%20the,born%20between%201966%20and%201970.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again I don't need your concern, you don't even understand that IQ is an extraordinarily bad measure of anything. Go read Gleitmans psychology. I'm pretty certain mine on a free mensa test dwarfs yours though.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tl;dr that study also explains why blacks in america are retarded and commit aloT of crimes. Because they are one of the groups that have a propionate amount of lead in their blood. The ban on lead fuel not only decreased crime, but also raised intelligence rates.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please stop, you've already shown me you are borderline retarded in so many ways. What medication are you on? You have some form of OCD and a low IQ? Developmental problems? Anxiety?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The gunsmith I work with had his lead levels tested. This is a guy who doesn't wash his hands, shoots guns all day long in an enclosed shot trap which hasn't been cleaned out in 2 years and does so without a mask.
    His lead levels were within the acceptable limits. You'll be fine, just wash your hands before you eat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Laughing at OP here, the risks from lead with ancient flaks of lead paint are one thing but OP is completely oblivious to the fact that people grew up with everything from lead soldiers to air rifles firing lead pellets, casting lead figurines, ;bullets, soldering shooting eating game with lead shot in it. He's OP the trembling anti firearm scaremongering hypochondriac with his special soap. Wait until he hears about germs and stds.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    macho culture was a mistake. the doofus itt is proof
    >hurrrr I WANT permanent bodily damage from heavy metals to own da libs

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey OP, have you considered taking your moronic crap to an electronics forum and telling them how they will all die because lead soldier? Just to give this board a break from your sheldon cooper spam a gun board about lead because guns bad and you are as has been identified a fragile hypochondriac mess.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      show me on the doll where the lead touched you

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd more worried about microplastics then lead from shooting guns

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >im more worried about this thing that actually isn't a big deal but is being hyped up by PrepHole because estrogen = trannies

      also most microplastics come from tires.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not just tires, it's in pretty much everything. I think recent studies have shown microplastics can pass the blood-brain barrier in mice and might be causing dementia.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have basically only been taking showers after shooting with no lead removing soap for the past 10 years as a gun owner. Am i doomed to be a retarded boomer in my 50s as well? How better can i minimize my lead exposure besides the soap and wipes and gloves?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just this really

      remember, max autism against lead (my position, using special detergents and shit) isn't necessary. Just try to minimize shooting indoors, don't eat when shooting, and use a couple hygenall wipes when you're done for the day. that's it. maybe get lead levels tested once every couple years.

      unless you're a hyper-active shooter with thousands of rounds a month. then I might do more to mitigate it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lead removing soap
      Does it work if someone shoots you sheldon?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get your blood tested. But the hest ways to do it is by washing your hands after shooting with d lead soap and taking a shower. Along with putting your clothes in the washer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll bet you constantly get tests done. What's the last test you pestered a doctor to do on you?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You should do testing at least once or twice a year if you're working with lead consistently.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Answer the question. I'll bet you are a doctor botherer. Your lead fear crap is ludicrous by the way.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >doctor botherer
              The purpose of a primary provider is to address concerns and to make appointments for check ups.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a hypochondriac nut.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >doctor botherer

              Bro, you’re gonna have early signs of cancer and you’re gonna tuff-guy it til it gets to a really stupid stage and only then will you be concerned.

              My dad does this exact same shit and it’s gonna kill him. You seem like a boomer and I’m assuming you have kids so, from a son to a dad, PLEASE make regular - not frequent, just regular - visits to the doctor. Your kid/s will be thankful.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CDC article has some info https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2009/05/18/firingrange/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have no medical qualifications whatsoever though believe me I can tell. You are not qualified to offer an opinion on a single medical paper you have linked. You are mentally ill hypochondriac but I think you are here to purposefully lie as well.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound gay

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was younger I used to carry.177 caliber lead pellets in my mouth. Walk in the woods behind my house for hours shooting everything that moved. Swallowed a few also. I still alive.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one more thing; children are the most susceptible to the harmful effects of lead. Even values lower than 10 μg/dL are dangerous - there really is no 'safe level' according to current research. If I had a kid out shooting I would make sure to use lead free primers & projectiles.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. I've found that the lead free primers in Norma ammo are pretty reliable, obviously not at parity yet with potassium perchlorate or regular styphnate primers.

      Is using lead free ammo/primers a way to completely avoid lead? Or is it inevitable regardless because of the gun itself?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's inevitable, sort of. depends on a wide range of factors (like the guns you shoot!). YOU are YOU - get tested and see what your levels are, and make changes if necessary

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sort of
          Damn. But good advice regardless because thought about getting lead free shit. What other parts of the gun that has lead?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming mercury scare nonsense on a hat making board is worth a fuck. I have relative in their 90s that grew up playing with cinnabar toys and quicksilver droplets their whole lives and dipped felt hats 50 50 years, no cancer, no problem what so ever, ate fish with heavy metal in them and they are perfectly fine and actually very alert and spry in their old age. Can animals get poisoning from eating mercury, sure but it has been banned for a long long time now. Then there is you with your hyperventilating concern posting to try and put people off of hattery because muh mercury and that works for you because you are mommies special little hypochondriac. Do you have any idea how absurd your generation is when it comes to health? Why don't you OP instead of being a nasal whining sound your whole life go and smoke some opium, drink some absinthe and maybe even fuck a syphilitic whore. You fucking sicken me more than mercury ever could. Change my fancy hat my ass. Any decent man washes his hand regularly anyway, do you even have to be told?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will you ever stop with this retarded knee trembling crap. There are literally millions and millions and millions of people in their 80s who lived their whole lives in cities full of cars running on lead infinitely more than a recreational shooter will EVER be exposed to. There are a billion things to live in hypochondriac terror of from food quality to pandemic, germs, microplastics, water contamination etc etc. get a fucking life and stop spamming this retarded bullshit. It is not scientific despite your allusions to the contrary. Firearms DO NOT produce a substantial or any much real risk of lead exposure. You would have to fire millions of rounds. neither is doing some casting or soldering now and again going to increase anyone risk of anything much. You are exposed to just as many potentially harmful contaminant vapours frying food. You are a bore and a liar, if you are not a liar you are a mentally ill simpleton who needs to deal with your anxiety.

      >"my grandma smoked every day of her life and never had cancer"

      you are legitimately blowing a gasket over people wanting to be safe. its only a matter of time until you equate lead wipes to getting the vax.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wanting to be safe does not equal being an obsessed hypochondriac lunatic who things people have to don a full protective suit and mash to solder something or buy special soap and change their clothes after recreational shooting. You are a full on nutjob and if the USA has a functional mental asylum system should probably take a rest in one and would benefit greatly from it. You also seem to have a messianic need to preach on subjects you have no qualifications in like medicine. You most certainly live with your mother.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it. Lead is no joke and anything that affects the mind freaks me the fuck out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      join me in using lead-free ammo yo. you can get Norma 22lr for 7c/rnd. Is it only accurate out to 50m and covered in weird grease? yeah I guess. Is it lead-free? Yep.
      Some states like CA are already requiring it for hunting

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it. Lead is no joke and anything that affects the mind freaks me the fuck out.

      >What do you anons do about lead exposure from shooting in the range or even handling your guns?
      I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming lead scare nonsense on a firearms board is worth a fuck. I have relative sin their 90s that grew up playing with lead soldiers and cast lead bullets their whole lives and shot regularly 50 50 years, no cancer, no problem what so ever, ate birds with lead shot in them and they are perfectly fine and actually very alert and spry in their old age. Can animals get poisoning from eating flakes of lead paint, sure but lead paint has been banned for a long long time now. Then there is you with your hyperventilating concern posting to try and put people of firearms because muh lead and that works for you because you are mommies special little hypochondriac. Do you have any idea how absurd your generation is when it comes to health? Why don't you OP instead of being a nasal whining sound your whole life go and smoke some cigarettes, drink some booze and maybe even fuck a woman. You fucking sicken me more than lead ever could. Change my clothes my ass. Any decent man washes his hand regularly anyway, do you even have to be told?

      >I honestly think you are an idiot. I mean that very sincerely, I don't mean just a bit stupid I mean the nearly drooling on themselves political activist type who thinks spamming lead scare nonsense on a firearms board is worth a fuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it makes you feel better, lead is most dangerous to children and teens. Your brain is already developed.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp13.pdf Chapter 1 here is a good read. lead is reeaaallllyyyyyyyyy bad.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's not a lot to be done.
    i'd like to see some comparisons to other lead exposure sources.
    like, if shooting once a month and being diligent in cleaning, washing clothes, etc. is exactly as bad as the lead leached from the brass pipes in your house, then it's a non issue.

    but it's very hard to get that data. i don't think people are investigating it much, which i find unpleasant. you'd think with how many soldiers are exposed to lead at 18 while their brains are still developing, you'd THINK that there would be some information quantifying how blood levels change.

    it's not great. i work in a research lab doing battery chemistry, and sometimes work with lead compounds. they're not great for you and it would be good if we could phase them out. i don't like being aware of how meticulous i am with lead compounds in the lab, and then i holster my glock with the same hand i touch my phone with, and touch my mouth with.

    there are primers that are better than lead styphnate. DBX-1 an other tetrazoles are very clean and stable. i think they'll replace lead primers eventually.

    i think about it like CO2. the cost is pushed off on other people. your indoor range pays for HEPA filtration. closing a gun range turns into a superfund site and it has to be cleaned in hazmat suits. explosives manufacturers have to process lead contaminated wastewater, pay for monitoring. the workers all bear the health burden if they don't take exposure seriously.

    lead is really heavy and cheap. it's great for projectiles. lead styphnate is shelf stable and lasts a long time. by all means, defense ammo should be ultra-reliable, but i don't understand why target ammo hasn't already changed over.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is good NIOSH/CDC data, I don't have screenshots handy though. Shooting ranges iirc top the charts, blowing past average BLL for mining/e-waste recycling employees etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You do realise that know one is going to give up their guns or ammunition or stop shooting because of your retarded spam. You are not even old enough to buy a gun legally

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No one is advocating for a gun ban, you strawmanning retard. Lead free primers/ammo exist. Even the military is considering phasing out lead munitions.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's the main reason for the m855whatever variant that is lead-free. not poisoning recruits in basic training lol.

            Not him, but i can't remember where, but suppressors makes lead exposure worse because of the blowback of the shit coming from the gun. Its especially bad if you're indoors.

            I did a quick search of google scholar but couldn't find anything. If you find it post it I do recall reading the Australians did some testing and the AUG had less noxious gas generated than AR platform? idk

            The major source of lead poisoning in the US is old lead paint in homes though. OP is being very dishonest.

            sure as an average baseline. I'll just be happy when avgas goes lead free, that's a surprisingly significant source of sort of 'everywhere' lead around airports

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >that's a surprisingly significant source of sort of 'everywhere' lead around airports
              it's pretty bad that we just release shit into the environment that we know is directly harmful to people. one of my favorites is how brass pipes used to have like 8% lead in them. they changed the law to make it so that they can be labeled "lead free" as long as they only have 0.25% lead. people get hot and bothered about fluoride but not about the "lead free" pipes in everyone's house.

              >is the antigunner in the room with us right now?
              Frankly yes
              [...]
              >I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it.
              These threads have been spammed here by antigun teen groups for years.

              i don't really see the angle you're getting at. i mean it's hardly even an option to get lead free ammo. i never see lead free primers advertised. you'd have to know what you were looking for, and it's more expensive than regular ammo. i don't know why you'd take issue with people wanting the ability to choose. i don't care what ammo you shoot, i care about what i'm shooting.

              it's like getting angry about people doubling up on hearing protection. i must be misunderstanding what you're saying, unless you're being intentionally disingenuous.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He just really fucking loves lead and gets angry at anyone who doesn't, or just at anything in general. Like a proper Leadhead should!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this comes to mind lol https://youtu.be/POB3Dr0uonc?si=DW27ApLkNd1rTUcD&t=66

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                reminds me of that failed meme from last year where some autist tried convincing everyone that trigger discipline was actually "reddit finger"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's pretty bad that we just release shit into the environment that we know is directly harmful to people
                they use lead in avgas because ensuring that planes don't crash constantly due to cylinder detonation trashing the engine is a little more important than some negligible amount of lead in the air.
                Leaded avgas is only used in piston engine planes however, which are an extremely small percentage of air traffic in the modern day, so there is even less of a reason to be concerned.
                > they changed the law to make it so that they can be labeled "lead free" as long as they only have 0.25% lead. people get hot and bothered about fluoride but not about the "lead free" pipes in everyone's house.
                yeah because if you completely removed lead you wouldn't be able to make the fucking pipes lmao, they add lead to those alloys to make them more workable.
                Again, this is barely an issue healthwise, even the meme about lead poisoned water in ancient Rome is extremely exaggerated and they had 100% lead pipes. If the water is moving through the pipes it does not obtain any significant lead contamination, if you are really worried about old pipes just let the tap run for a few seconds before you drink from it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                as of last year FAA issued type certificates for unleaded fuel that works with all old spark ignition planes. Change is happening rapidly!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah that's great, the lead near small airports will go from 0.000002% to 0.000001% lmao. We should call the president and make a national holiday for it.

                you realize that the vast majority of planes do not use avgas at all correct? like literally anything powered by a jet engine? why are you acting like this is some revolutionary change?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                avgas lead is a main driving factor for shutting down small airports.

                Do you have to bring spare clothes or is it fine to drive without changing? I understand the washing hands/face shit, but the clothes ones is a bit of a mix bag for me.

                idk I can't really comment on clothes, some of the CDC reports mention clothe contamination but I think it's minor. I just run mine in the wash when I get home.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Changing at the range seems pretty damn overkill, I just throw them in the laundry when I get home, I really doubt a tiny amount of lead on my shirt and pants will make a substantial difference in the half hour it takes me to get back home.

                Yea, i asked because of multiple reports suggesting about bring spare clothes/shoes to the range and changing before you get home. Along with separating range clothes from regular clothes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                get a cool surplus tanker coverall and shoot in that. Some guys at my range do that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah because if you completely removed lead you wouldn't be able to make the fucking pipes lmao,
                1 minute with googler

                >they use lead in avgas because ensuring that planes don't crash constantly
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avgas
                i have no fucking idea about avgas, this looks like people are and have been actively working on unleaded avgas, and the FAA is delaying the adoption.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                avgas is switching over finally. of course if enough dentists crash their general aviation shitheap Cessnas it won't be a problem regardless lul http://flying-geek.blogspot.com/2021/11/unleaded-aviation-fuel.html

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1 minute with googler
                lmao that's comical. whatever retarded article you found is trying to act like copper alloys that don't use lead is some recent invention. pro-tip, it would be pretty difficult to run water in a house with pipe that costs 20x the conventional stuff because it uses an uncommon alloy. Get back to me when someone is actually making the shit for widespread home use and it isn't some retard googling "alloys of copper".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/GZzOsaE.png

                >yeah because if you completely removed lead you wouldn't be able to make the fucking pipes lmao,
                1 minute with googler

                >they use lead in avgas because ensuring that planes don't crash constantly
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avgas
                i have no fucking idea about avgas, this looks like people are and have been actively working on unleaded avgas, and the FAA is delaying the adoption.

                Where the actual fuck do you retards live that you haven't heard of PVC pipes before?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i want you to think about what you wrote there.
                >with pipe that costs 20x the conventional stuff because it uses an uncommon alloy.
                think about what that means.

                are you suggesting that bismuth, or silicon, are inordinately more expensive than lead?
                because that's the replacement.
                copper is the most expensive part of brass.

                so, you're saying we should keep doing it this way, because we have been doing it this way.

                https://news.vt.edu/articles/2010/11/111710-engineering-edwardsunc.html

                leaded brass leeches the most lead right after installation. there is a flushing process to wash away the majority of the lead.
                this guy says that even if the part costs more, the cost of the flushing procedure outweighs that difference.

                i don't give a shit dude but, i mean it took me minutes to find stuff from what appears to be a credible group out of virginia tech, disagreeing with your take on a fundamental level.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are you suggesting that bismuth, or silicon, are inordinately more expensive than lead?
                I'm suggesting that when you make your material massively more difficult to actually manufacture it makes the final part more expensive. Like I said, they add lead to MAKE THE MATERIAL EASIER TO WORK, i.e. form/machine/whatever the fuck, which is written in one of your screenshots you rapidly googled you fucking moron. You can't just make anything out of anything, and certainly not for a practical cost.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'd be shocked if bismuth didn't improve the machineability.

                go look at a periodic table and look at where bismuth is.
                guess what is right under it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'd be shocked if bismuth didn't improve the machineability.
                >go look at a periodic table and look at where bismuth is.
                >guess what is right under it.
                damn I guess we can start using nitrogen instead of carbon for hardening steel then. I mean they must be similar right? They are right next to each other on the periodic table!
                You are talking WAY out of your ass here dumbfuck, I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >damn I guess we can start using nitrogen instead of carbon for hardening steel then.
                what's a nitrided barrel?

                you can't compare different columns, but you can compare within the same column. that's how the table works. each column is another full orbital.

                why are the noble gases all in a vertical column?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what's a nitrided barrel?
                A surface treatment less than .001" thick, what was your point again?
                Why are you posting here anon? Shouldn't you be out there revolutionizing metallurgy using your skill at looking things up on google?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao this retard got bodied and now he's throwing a fit. Moron has never heard of a nitrided barrel, and now is doubling down on his stupidity instead of pointing out it's nitro CARBURIZATION lmao

                you're not a clown you're the whole fuckin circus, the other guy may not know what he's talking about but you have even less of a clue, pack it up and shut up before you embarrass yourself further dunce.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only certain forms of nitriding are also nitroCARBURIZING you stupid fuck, who was the clueless one again?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Only certain forms of nitriding are also nitroCARBURIZING
                Yeah, the ones that are done to steel lmfao, holy shit you are a fucking amazing circus act.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitriding
                The sheer irony of you trying to call someone out when you are the one that is completely clueless. Comical.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >uh ackshually here's a wikipedia article I didn't read
                It's amazing. Couldn't ask for a better performance. Do you take tips?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >here's a wikipedia article I didn't read
                >It's amazing. Couldn't ask for a better performance. Do you take tips?
                Again, the sheer fucking irony lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'd be shocked if bismuth didn't improve the machineability.

                go look at a periodic table and look at where bismuth is.
                guess what is right under it.

                here's a patent from the 90s for a bismuth brass with good machinability

                https://patents.google.com/patent/US5637160A/en

                do you own a brass foundry or something? i don't understand why you're taking this so personally

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are you suggesting that bismuth, or silicon, are inordinately more expensive than lead?
                I'm suggesting that when you make your material massively more difficult to actually manufacture it makes the final part more expensive. Like I said, they add lead to MAKE THE MATERIAL EASIER TO WORK, i.e. form/machine/whatever the fuck, which is written in one of your screenshots you rapidly googled you fucking moron. You can't just make anything out of anything, and certainly not for a practical cost.

                see this video for all of the drawing and shaping required for making a simple copper pipe fitting, dramatically changing a material can make these processes far more costly if not completely impossible

                i'd be shocked if bismuth didn't improve the machineability.

                go look at a periodic table and look at where bismuth is.
                guess what is right under it.

                >HURR I have no clue what the fuck I am talking about but I am SURE I'm right about this!
                Yeah bro material science is done by taking a quick glance at a periodic table. The atomic number is all you need to know to derive all possible metallurgy properties. You just figured out how to make millions of feet of copper pipe faster, cheaper and easier right out from under the noses of the people who have degrees in these fields and have been studying them for decades.

                [...]
                here's a patent from the 90s for a bismuth brass with good machinability

                https://patents.google.com/patent/US5637160A/en

                do you own a brass foundry or something? i don't understand why you're taking this so personally

                >Casting a brass block and machining it into a valve is the same thing as forming tube
                >HUUUUUUURRRR I CAN TYPE SHIT INTO GOOGLE I KNOW EVERYTHING!!

                have a nice day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah bro material science is done by taking a quick glance at a periodic table.
                it sure does when you're adding point defects to combat the work-hardening of copper.
                bismuth is in the same column as lead, it's a single orbital difference.

                it's not a chemical process it's a physical one. you're talking about the actual radii of the atom to introduce the defect. that's why it's bismuth replacing lead, not iron or carbon.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              M855A1 is lead free due to the federal government needing to clean up the projectiles as regulations and legislation require them to. If you're not aware they have to do remediation on all the built up ammo on the range.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                M855A1 is lead free primarily because it's actually beneficial for performance. The military is legally barred from using expanding projectiles so they might as well optimize them for defeating barriers which is what the A1 is designed to do, it uses a full length steel core penetrator that is also hardened iirc which makes it dramatically more effective against barriers especially vehicles.
                It also helps that OG 855 was an ancient as fuck projectile design, so they were able to apply decades of learning on designing bullets to the new A1.

                If the sole benefit of switching was simply to remove lead I doubt they would have bothered unless they seriously got their arms twisted by the government to do it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >defeating barriers which is what the A1 is designed to do
                Just use M955 AP then. Easier to make and more effective.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And 20x more expensive requiring a strategically critical material.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >more expensive
                >"Government spending must be frugal!"
                kek, 10% goes to the big guy though

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it was a combination of factors. it does improve performance, but the removal of lead is also nice https://www.army.mil/article/106710/Picatinny_ammo_goes_from_regular_to_unleaded/

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If the sole benefit of switching was simply to remove lead I doubt they would have bothered unless they seriously got their arms twisted by the government to do it.
                It was cost based from memory, there was something about how the top layer of soil gets scooped up and they shake out the projectiles (from 5.56 to the coax 7.62 and up) before that gets sent off to be melted down. If I recall correctly the cost of compliance was higher than going with M855A1.

                >Fishedo ut some random boomerzone quotes
                >On the 3rd of August 1993, President Clinton signed Executive Order 12856 committing Federal agencies, including the DOD, to reduce their toxic releases by half by 1999. Moreover, the same agencies were to pursue the development and procurement of non-toxic replacements. Of course, one of these toxic materials was none other than lead.
                >The precursor to the M855A1 was the M855 LFS (Lead Free Slug). This pretty much looked like a conventional M855 projectile, but the lead core was replaced by a compressed tungsten/nylon powder mix. Ironically, the powdered tungsten was found to be more likely to leach into the local groundwater than the previous lead core.

                >The US Army has to pay a lot of money to clean up the lead firing ranges inside CONUS. M855A1 was developed originally as a lead free bullet to prevent range closures and the fees associated with cleanup - the Infantry and SOCOM piped up and suggested that if money was being spent on developing a new bullet, it might as well be more lethal and penetrative as well. The short book "In Search of Lethality" has some more info. It's worth noting that the USMC has done the same with Mk318 Mod 1.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what are you talking about?
          when they switched from corrosive chlorate primers, was that the antigunners too?
          is the antigunner in the room with us right now?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >is the antigunner in the room with us right now?
            Frankly yes

            I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it. Lead is no joke and anything that affects the mind freaks me the fuck out.

            >I’ve unironically been strongly considering giving up shooting because of it.
            These threads have been spammed here by antigun teen groups for years.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How being aware of lead shit being antigun? You're conflating the wrong things, Black.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                implying shooting is hazardous in any way is off-message and is therefore liberal chud shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, anon. Worrying about gun owner safety is truly a liberal conspiracy.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The major source of lead poisoning in the US is old lead paint in homes though. OP is being very dishonest.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just wipe your hands with lead wipes when you're done shooting and throw the clothes you wore in the laundry, the lead exposure you're gonna get from shooting is very minimal, especially at outdoor ranges

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have to bring spare clothes or is it fine to drive without changing? I understand the washing hands/face shit, but the clothes ones is a bit of a mix bag for me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Changing at the range seems pretty damn overkill, I just throw them in the laundry when I get home, I really doubt a tiny amount of lead on my shirt and pants will make a substantial difference in the half hour it takes me to get back home.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is using normal detergent fine or do I have to use some special detergent?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            normal detergent is fine anon unless you shoot like 8 combat loads a day for a year you will be ok

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I see, thanks!

              use normal detergent and do it twice. the mechanical action is more important than anything else.
              read the paper and decide for yourself.

              So using detergent once and wash twice or using detergent for each wash?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta but i would use detergent for both cycles
                couldnt hurt so why not

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yea, what about the water temperature? Does it have to be cold or is using the regular cycle temperature is fine?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i think you are being too autistic about this lmao
                im sure a warm temp will be fine

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro just call 1-800-CDC-INFO and ask them your billion questions, or google them yourself.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            use normal detergent and do it twice. the mechanical action is more important than anything else.
            read the paper and decide for yourself.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            'D-Lead Respirator and Laundry Detergent' is like $20 for a liter (I assume there are other brands, it's what I use) and will last you many dozens of loads of a couple articles of clothing.
            You spend thousands on ammo and guns, no? so I don't give it any thought to spend a few bucks on peace of mind for lead poisoning

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shoot naked like the ancient greeks

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$0.01 has been deposited into my Norma account

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I could find a fast twist rate 22lr barrel, these would perform so much better

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve never done anything I don’t even wash my hands who gives a shit

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if trying to discuss phasing out harmful gas stoves on PrepHole would be like this too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      considering all of the recent studies trying to paint gas stoves as the second coming of hitler are all extremely biased and borderline fraudulent, yeah I would hope so.
      what a shock, people won't immediately roll over and comply without question whenever you put together some bullshit cooked study conducted by political activists.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fraudulent
        Whate next, going to say gas powered driers are not toxic/flammable?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be even worse, basically every professional chef on the planet still treats non-gas stoves like the devil

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you change your clothes before going home along with other precautions?
    LMAO! The shit zoomers think about.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ??? i smoke while casting bullets

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me too, use part of the cigar to flux the molten lead. Smells nice that way.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i like paraffin wax. beeswax tends to settle at the bottom of my lead pot and smoke constantly

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well wash your hands, don’t eat at the range, change your clothes after a range trip and try shooting outdoors. If you don’t shoot for a living, like thousands of rounds per month, that would be sufficient. If you are shooting a lot, try using mercury/lead free primers, though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >/lead free primers
      hot garbage, couldn't pay me to use them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        depends on the company. the standard 556 Swiss military cartridge has a lead-free primer and it is reliable.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RWS Sintox work just fine.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do I do about kneepads? Do i just wipe them with dlead wipes after the range?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      at this point it's like you're concern trolling m8, just give the CDC hotline a call and I'm sure some bored government employee will answer all

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being so OCD as to care about lead. Human fucking ATE lead in their wine and ate out of lead pots and drank out of lead mugs for thousands of years.

    It's all an antigun PSYOP.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am sure those life expectancies during those times beg to differ

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >life expectancies
        Not a single one died of lead exposure. More like poor sanitation, germs, poor diet, living in hovels, working like slaves to get food, shitting in the corner of your room where you and others all sleep, etc.

        Plus "life expectancies" were low back then due to very high infant mortality, which made the numbers lower overall.

        If you lived past puberty, you often could live to 70s or more back then easily.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >died of lead exposures
          The issue with lead is mainly its underlying effects, not its direct effect.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ooogha booogah boooga

            yeah sure glowietard

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More like poor sanitation, germs, poor diet, living in hovels, working like slaves to get food, shitting in the corner of your room where you and others all sleep, etc.
          Nobody fucking died from any of that shit. Billions of people still live like that today and they're just fine, so were the Romans. If this made any fucking sense at all everyone would be dead. I mix a half ounce of lead with my cornflakes every morning and wash it down with diluted roundup every morning and my homeopath expects me to live all the way until thirty. Grow a fucking spine, zoomie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Scorpio, does that still mean I should take the roundup or should I use rat poison?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Certainly, Romans knew lead to be dangerous, even if they did not associate it with their lead cooking vessels or the preparation of sapa. Pliny speaks of the "noxious and deadly vapour" (sulfur dioxide) of the lead furnace (XXXIV.l.167; there was, in fact, a four-fold increase in atmospheric Pb pollution during the Greco-Roman period); red lead (minium) (XXXIII.xli.124) and white lead (ceruse) (XXXIV.liv.176) as poisonous, even though both were used as a medicine and cosmetic; and the power of sapa (and onion) to induce an abortion (XXIII.xxx.62). Dioscorides cautions against taking white lead internally, as it is deadly (V.103). Soranus recommends that the mouth of the uterus be smeared with white lead to prevent conception (Gynecology, I.19.61). Galen (On Antidotes, XIV.144) and Celsus (V.27.12b) both provide an antidote for poisoning by white lead, and Vitruvius remarks on the pernicious effects of water found near lead mines and its effect on the body (VIII.3.5, 6.11).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >spam propaganda.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Surely you will provide some counter evidence, anon?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            go wash your hands again since you touched your phone, which has lead in it.
            Cali Prop 65

            Don't go outside either, cause after 75+ years of leaded tetra-ethyl lead being put into the atmosphere, billions and billions of pounds of it is everywhere in dirt and dust in the air.

            Go get a booster shot vaccine also to protect you from that skeeery ole lead monster.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He kept schizoposting

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keep schizoposting, gay. I'm the guy saying metallic lead isn't as nasty as the other forms that human tissue absorbs more readily. For all the fear mongering around lead bullets you see the British doing picrel while the big issue of primers is ignored since that aerosols readily and concentrates in confined spaces to be breathed in in comparison to jacketed bullets.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lead bullets are a huge problem for waterfowl and wildlife poisoning though. lead pellets wing a bird, something eats the bird and gets sick.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yea, which is why hunters use lead free bullets and primers. It also doesn't let lead get into their prey.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lead free bullets and primers. It also doesn't let lead get into their prey.
                Yeah the anon called it. Glowies pushing the same old antilead talking points.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >glowie
                Anon, there are reasons to why hunters use lead free bullets to hunt for their food. It prevents damage to the local wild life and also prevents their food from getting contaminated.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lead bullets are a huge problem for waterfowl and wildlife poisoning though
                Wrong.
                Lead was blamed for what DDT was doing.
                Government covered up the DDT damage since it was invested in Dow and other companies. "strategic importance" etc.

                Does your morning cereal consist of lead fishing weights in a lead bowl filled with leaded gasoline?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              steel shot has been a thing for a very long time you know.
              are you actually trying to run some kind of propaganda campaign here? the schizo posting is starting to convince me with how badly you want to force this issue while knowing so little about it, you actually do stink of an outsider trying to force an agenda.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most waterfowl hunters use a tungsten or like rotometals shot. lead isn't dense enough.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                who are you talking to? I'm just trying to bring some sense to this garbage thread. lead is fucking awful, here's how to mitigate its effects. read this paper. blah. meanwhile this random retard keeps baiting and trolling by posting blatant medical misinformation

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah you definitely aren't a disingenuous activist at all. You referencing lead shot which no one uses and has not used for decades and referencing leaded avgas which is like 0.0001% of aviation fuel used in the US is just you showing your genuine concern.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >lead bullets are a huge problem for waterfowl and wildlife poisoning though
              Wrong.
              Lead was blamed for what DDT was doing.
              Government covered up the DDT damage since it was invested in Dow and other companies. "strategic importance" etc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wrong, troll. do even a smidge of research please https://www.wetlands.org/news/lead-poisoning-in-waterfowl-30-years-of-progress-but-still-an-unresolved-problem/

                sure is fucking 4chan in here. Jannies please just nuke this thread god damn

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Actual firearms related discussion (ammunition) plus schizo posters shitting thread up
                >Shut it down
                Fuck off

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there is nothing to be gained from this thread with the pro-lead lobby somehow not banned yet from posting itt. It's like a space thread with a flerfer. useless.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ban anyone who disagrees with me
                sounds like reddit is more your speed champ

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                should we not ban flerfers from space threads? should we not ban Lysenkoism proponents in evolution threads? use your head.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No we shouldn't, it's called free speech.
                Something redditors have a hard time understanding, sorry you can't downvote here gay lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lysenkoism proponents
                how many of those are even left

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Keep schizoposting, gay.
            You got the wrong anon eurofag.
            Also, lead primers are superior to non-lead ones, in every single way.
            Corrosive primers are even better.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the lead is fine boomer is also a an antivaxx moron
    typical

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t shoot too often as of late and always wash my hands afterwards, and wipe down whatever I shot just to be safe. Also if I wear a jacket or some shit I just throw it in the washer. Looking around for good outdoor ranges so inhalation isn’t that much of a problem, but IMO most modern ranges that aren’t some podunk inbred redneck meth shack should be good to go with ventilation unless you’re there every single day 24/7. I’m a little paranoid when it comes to this shit, even considered wearing some kind of gloves when shooting, but at the same time the lead emitted from firearms is so miniscule you’d pretty much need to be magdumping entire boxes of machine guns all day in a tight space for it to have any realistic effects on you, unless for some reason you’re licking your fingers caked in dust like a tard for some reason. And if you’re not a boomer who grew up surrounded by lead everything then you’ll almost certainly be fine, since its in childhood where it fucks up the body the most.

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *