Layering

For hot/warm/temperate weather:
>just combat shirt and pants, merino socks and synthetic moisture wicking underwear

If it rains in the above weathers:
>if it rains little nothing bc its hot anyway and you won't get soaked, if it pours then a poncho or wind+waterproof hardshell but mayne its too hot?

If its cold:
>combat clothes and thermal merino wool layer underneath, if it rains poncho or wind waterproof hardshell

For very cold weather:
>merino underlayer, insulating mid layer, wind waterproof hardshell, and when you're stationary additional layer of ecwcs lvl7 type clothes and pants

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    okay thanks

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    layering
    for hot/warm/cold/wrt/dry
    merino baselayer
    merino midlayer
    wool outer layer

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hot weather
    Shorts cotton shirt

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This Anon knows the actual definition of hot, not the fake Coastie “hot.” Only east Texas (behind the line curtain), Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, and southwest Georgia know what hot weather is. The rest of you homosexuals are just pussies.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    combat clothes feel like shit in warm weather, the polyester content makes them feel clammy and stink.
    just wear regular cotton clothes and a wool jacket if it gets cold autist.
    the army doesnt wear combat shit because its good they wear it because of deals between the higher ups and the manufacturers giving each other money under the table

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what exactly makes something "tactical", I've seen "tactical boxers" unironically
    they weren't even camo
    I know that the answer is "marketing" but there must be some kind of standard by which you call something tactical, it can't be just a word that you add to the product

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >there must be some kind of standard
      Nope. Its a buzzword. I avoid it like the plague.
      t. seven years in the infantry

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No it's a buzzword but combat clothing usually is more rugged than hiking clothing and has different colors available, in the end it's technical clothing.
      For combat pants and shirts then it's not a buzzword just for the fact that they're only made for that purpose and have no hiking counterpart, there are outdoors pants and jackets tho but they're a bit different

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And also it has some features for interfacing with body armor sometimes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And more pockets

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            For example look at arcteryx shell jackets and arcteryx leaf (military brand of arcteryx)shell jackets and see the difference

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >combat clothing is more rugged
        You've never been issued anything, have ya?
        The main "tactical" stuff worth buying as a civie for civie use is the stuff that is made to be somewhat ambiguously outdoor slash tactical. Carinthia or Otte or Hill People are good examples of this. Anyone chasing large gov contracts is probably not sending their best.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What about UF pro and crye clothes

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Unless you're shooting belt feds in level fours, I don't really see the point. Wear whatever the hell you want, but you'll get more civie bang for your buck if you avoid tacticool stuff.
            Crye is good, but the velcro is sown on like it was bridal lace rather than infantry kit. See the repairs I made with black thread on my pants in picrel. UF pro is just the Euro competitor to Crye. Never used it, but a lot of colleagues did. Seemed fine for fightin', but I wouldn't buy it for civie trekking. It's deeply overengineered and overpriced for hiking.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ok thanks, I'll probably buy it anyway to LARP the boog and shit while also using it for going innawoods

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hey man, LARP away. I despise bro-vets who get triggered by civies wearing whatever the hell they want. I've done plenty of civie PrepHoleing in "tactical" clothing, and it works just fine. I just personally wouldn't buy it purely for that purpose, since average PrepHole doesn't even remotely require half the features you end up paying extra for.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but I prefer having the tactical stuff so I use it for both

                Also in a boog scenario I think you wouldn't go out in full kit, it would be a mix between civilian and tactical, so maybe youd have a gun and ammo and ifak and comms and the stuff to carry it like a chest rig or PC, or the could weather gear if needed but I don't think youd be running operations, at most youd go scavenging or patrolling for your community if you managed to create a small village but there are a thousand other roles that dont require LARP gear

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Knock yourself out, anon. I'm not going into the whole TEOTWAKI/SHTF/boog thing, I've wasted enough years on that. I'd recommend solid family and local community ties before spending too much time theorycrafting which chestrig would fit under which goretex jacket while looking appropriately covert but also being a useful show of force. That shit doesn't matter if your daughter isn't getting her baby formula and no one will help you or barter with you. But, sincerely, boog-LARP all you want. LARPing is fun.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with you that's what I was saying, it's more important to have essential items available and links with other people in order to have a functioning community organism that can give you survival and security and a new society on smaller scale

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        how the frick are you hiking or doing any kind of activity in a combat shirt and combat pants in hot weather?
        if you really must larp as a soldier at all times (LOL) milsurp short sleeve shirts and shorts exist. silkies are good for that village people look.

        >combat clothing usually is more rugged than
        nah milsurp stuff is the mass produced of mass produced. as anon said some of the smaller contract niche stuff mostly in europe like carinthia is nice ass gear and milsurp but most of it is lowest bidder garbage. some milsurp also winds up being designed by outdoors/hiking brands too. ironically things like the assault pack were designed by arcteryx, which is probably the #1 brand that milsurp people who treat gear like console wars hate.
        its not that the quality is better. the quality of recreational hiking gear from cottage brands is usually as good as it can realistically get. its moreso that military gear prioritizes long term durability more, and recreational hiking gear prioritizes performance more, often at extreme cost to durability. someone who takes hiking really seriously doesn't care about throwing away a $100 alpha direct hoodie every year if it works better than the other hoodie, its just the market.
        on the high end, recreational hiking gear and recreational/civ versions of military gear can be way better because those brands are willing to use higher end materials than nylon, which is a great material but there is better and in the near future its likely to be directly replaced, but the main reason its so great is because its price to performance ratio; there are better niche fabrics these days. mostly developed by the sailing industry, of all things.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You must embrace the suck, i go running in bdus, after some time you get used to the heat

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >military gear prioritizes long term durability more, and recreational hiking gear prioritizes performance
          NTA. I'm M60E6-anon. This is not necessarily a matter of civie vs mil, but new vs old. Older stuff prioritizes durability, newer stuff is essentially just a consumable. This also applies to mil gear. The civie gear industry is just slightly ahead of the mil gear industry on this trend. Those bungees, elastic webbing and velcro closures don't last. I know guys who go through plate carriers on a yearly basis (to be fair, they are not exactly kind to their kit). That's why my kit

          https://i.imgur.com/Bw132GI.jpg

          Unless you're shooting belt feds in level fours, I don't really see the point. Wear whatever the hell you want, but you'll get more civie bang for your buck if you avoid tacticool stuff.
          Crye is good, but the velcro is sown on like it was bridal lace rather than infantry kit. See the repairs I made with black thread on my pants in picrel. UF pro is just the Euro competitor to Crye. Never used it, but a lot of colleagues did. Seemed fine for fightin', but I wouldn't buy it for civie trekking. It's deeply overengineered and overpriced for hiking.

          prioritized buckles and straps, rather than elastics and velcro. I generally agree with you on the rest though - although I'm not a burger, so I can't comment on that.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What annoys me is that since I live on the butthurt belt and due to recent acts of warmongering by our neighbour, gorka suits are considered as clothes of the enemy over here. Can't buy them from anywhere anymore. Also I wouldn't want risk getting shot by some hunter who mistakes me for a desantti or something.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I pick mushrooms in a DVD pajama in a not widely used camo pattern, no one cares I think they forgot to which c**t it belonged.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I pick mushrooms in a DVD pajama in a not widely used camo pattern
        how do I learn to be this based?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kek.
        *Autistic Eastbloc noises*
        You guys are alright.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    where do you get wool shirts in EU? varusteleka only got 1

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    my perspective on milsurp is an american one though, where our golden era of cheap quality milsurp is long gone. milsurp in europe seems more appealing, looks better there if you're picky about what pieces you get.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    american perspective tier list:
    MYOG/Hand Made >= Cottage Brands > Milsurp* = Rec*
    *minefields full of bad products to avoid with gems
    cottage brands are less plentiful or more expensive to ship from on average and milsurp is better, relatively, in europe keep in mind. (maybe this is why so many anons disagree?)

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