So…apparently the funds were simply stolen. 2 managers were just sentenced on the theft of 90 million Rubles. Last year the company’s President was also prosecuted but he got a light sentence for cooperating with these following investigations.
I wonder if they’ll get time served from a 12th-story window.
Anyway, I wonder if they ripped off the project funds because they knew they couldn’t build the vehicle anyway?
>90 million rubles
is that like 10 dollars?
>sell out your own military for 90 million rubles
>war occurs
>the military does so badly that your 90 million rubles turns into the equivalent of an American middle manager's pension
poetic
Don't worry guys. You can be sure they've converted the money into Dolalrs/Euros and deposited it abroad long before the war started.
which now gets frozen in foreign accounts defeating the entire point
Ah okay
So ministry officials and higher ups embezzled the money and have left the fall guys out to dry.
Considering how light the sentences are maybe they really are just the fall guys for someone higher up. I feel that if they seriously wanted to pin this on them they’d get much harsher sentences.
I think they are the fall guys, seriously. Suspended sentence? That’s nothing at all.
It's twofold. Fall guys and a show of power for civilians. Demoralization z showing them that there are two justice systems. One for plebs and one for insiders.
Has Russia even once considered that this sort of thing is the reason their corruption problem is so bad?
Oh, of course.
But, a lot of them are either in too deep to back out now, or simply don't care about the well being of others as long as they can own a Porsche.
It ensures loyalty to the dictator. The dictator cares only about remaining in power. Remaining in power is predicated upon keeping the poor majority down and the rich minority loyal. Letting the rich minority off with a finger wag demoralizes the poors and ensures that the rich will remain loyal.
Anon, Russia has basically state sanctioned corruption, as long as Putin gets his cut (speculated around 50%) oligarchs can do whatever they want.
Picrel costed somewhat around 5 billion dollars with no consequences so the fall guys theory seems the most plausible
the supidest thing is that the dictatorship is internally more or less stable. Tzar and boyars partying on the table with a iron fist in front of the apolitical serfs
why destabilize it with retarded land grabs trying to restore your once lost red empire. if any of them knew anything about history they should know how a functioning economy is the backbone of a sustainable military machine
Ideology clouds judgement. I think Putin legitimately believed that retaking the Soviet Union’s most prized colony would somehow return Russia to its former glory. His whole schtick is rebuilding Russia’s national pride after the embarrassment of the 1990’s. Hence the past excursions in Chechnya, Georgia and Crimea.
Surely he should have invaded Afghanistan to show it can be done
It's China's turn next though.
Line Must Go Up, siloviki version
Wow you can tell the Wikipedia page is written by vatniks holy shit
If you ask russian why he stolen that money he will answer "everybody does, why wouldn't i earn something on the side?"
This. It's how their system works. Everyone takes their share. Climb up the ladder, make friends and you gain access to greater "benefits".
Just don't draw too much attention. And whatever you do, don't steal more than your boss does or you're in deep shit.
most post-communist countries have a saying along the lines of "not stealing from your employer = stealing from your own family"
>suspended sentences
so nothing happened at all and they were given a wag of the finger. what a joke country, they are below africans by a mile
Jokes about the state of the Russian defense industry aside, I wonder why this particular program has gotten this downplayed. Have they been shown recently at all? They got cut from the victory day parade and I can't recall them getting paraded around like the T-14 or the Terminators
I mean, what's 90 million rubles between friends amirite?
Wait till you find out there's NATO countries that hand out suspended sentences to politicians and rich people
So it isn't corruption after all. It's just that Soviet/Russian designers aren't as good as their counterparts in the west. Is this what you're telling us?
He has a point. A competent engineer would make sure the engine actually works before building an entire tank based on it.
Meanwhile, it's up to 15 years for 'misinformation' discrediting the military.
Kek, I knew that the kurganets, bumerang, armata and koalitsiya are pretty much all vaporware. It's possible they couldn't build it, at least at a reasonable price for the russian budget. Russia tried to implement western design in their newest wave of vehicles but it jacked the prices up so much there was never a possibility of ever replacing anything at scale. There were around 2900 BMP-2s and 400-500 BMP-1s in service prior to the war and Russia lacks the manufacturing capability and economy to massively rearm like that.
>Of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these, "Pig was right again."
redeffect on suicide watch.
wait, the beef between Lazerpig and RedEffect slid to the Kurganets? HOW?
well, pigs main talking point is that all new russian toys hyped by media are napkinwaffen potemkin programs with main goal of embezzling money rather than actually building anything that works.
who in their right minds would contest that?
oooohhh...
who need those western ifv-inspired huge coffins anyway
motolygas with bmp-1 turrets are better*~~
Well that explains the lack of new vehicles.
Someone is getting their balls jumped on by FSB agents in a cold, squalid Moscow basement over 90 million rubles. I hope Mr. Shkolnik can withstand getting his vas deferens crushed by pliers.
Anon that's pocket change in terms of military projects, they've probably stolen some shit but learned that they are the reason kurganets failed when they were in court already
>Nutsukinov
So just like the Armata family getting cancelled after a few complete ones were finished while the rest of the money went down the drain?
Jesus this explains why they're going forwards on that front engine BMP-3 project.
>90 million RUB
>$900.000 USD
For real? So many efforts for a shed in the Bay Area?