Kinzhal interception officially confirmed by Ukrainian Air Force!
>I'M SORRY PATRIOT
Source https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/43
Kinzhal interception officially confirmed by Ukrainian Air Force! >I'M SORRY PATRIOT
Kinzhal interception officially confirmed by Ukrainian Air Force!
>I'M SORRY PATRIOT
Source https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/43
I'm sorry Patriot.
Honestly though forgive me for being a dumbfag but is it wise for the Ukrainians to reveal how exactly they shot down the Kinzhal? Is there any tactical advantage to keeping the capabilities of the Patriot a secret so Russia can be surprised later on?
What more surprise can there being after their 'invincible' weapon was shot down.
And besides, what are they going to do? Shoot another one to take out the patriot?
>reveal how exactly they shot down the Kinzhal?
Its not a secret. Kinzhal is interceptable in terminal phase of flight because it slows down.
Russia has to have some strategic ELINT abilities. They would have intercepted the various radar signals and known what target tracking and missile guidance took place on the intercept. That would tell them what SAM system was used to shoot it down.
Then again....
I'm sorry Patriot.
I'M SORRY PATRIOT
nice way to invite a dozen more kinzhal... if we wanted it to, keeeeeeeeeeev would be a crater right now
>we
>confirmed by ukie air force
Just like ghost of karviv or whatever.
I get there's fog of war but can we not just take one sides takes for granted.
Regardless the patriot system is still great.
Why didn't you take those dozens of khinzel and use them to strike strategic targets on night 0 and then use combined ops like a proper military lmao
The last few days have been awful for ziggers. I hope the counter offensive makes it worse
>The last few days have been awful for ziggers.
Few Days? I think it was going down hill since February 2022.
Well, there were ups and downs. They did take several donuts and there was much rejoicing. Other small victories like taking ruins of a place formerly known as Pissky. For a normal person - paid for with a disproportional price, but it's a victory in russian's book.
Day 4 of the 3 day special military operation... What's that? It's day 450?
Another Russian wunderwaffe with 'no analogue' gets BTFOd by 90s tech. Most likely, the vatbros have been lying about Kinzhals capabilities.
At the end of this ziggers are finally going to be admitting Kinzhals aren't 'true' hypersonics because that'll be the only way to save face.
>The last few days
*decades
why aren't the translations getting any better after years of slavspeak living rent free in western spaces 24/7.
built-in telegram translator works just fine
>you don't need to run, as they say in Ukraine: ahead of your father to hell
Do they really say this, or is it a weird mistranslation?
Kek. I'm not surprised. It's hilarious to me that It's been known for years that Kinzhal isn't special and doesn't incorporate boost glide tech, yet it was shilled as the unstoppable wonder weapon to destroy any IADS. Now they're using the argument they've shilled so hard against to justify it's interception. Fucking priceless.
0/10 you ain't baiting well gay
cope and seethe
>the west cant immitate hypersonic technology
Why would they want to if it's countered by 80's AA?
I sure hope nobody takes the bait
Holy shit. Based. Chinese will rule the world! The west is doomed and trying to bury this story. Where can I learn more?
inside smelly pee on telegram for more on the UTIs the west is trying to bury
Kek "don't rush to hell ahead of your dad" is a local variant of "putting a cart before the horse" but not much in a procedural meaning but like a "being too quick and clueless to act before situation allows to make a correct choice"
Probably everyone in Kiev heard this insane aerial kaboom that night, like when something hypersonic with 1000lbs warhead suddenly and violently deconstructs mid-air.
> Probably everyone in Kiev heard this insane aerial kaboom that night, like when something hypersonic with 1000lbs warhead suddenly and violently deconstructs mid-air.
I believe i heard it. Could be wrong, but it was unlike everything i've heard/seen since beginning of the war.
Early 4th of may, air raid alert sounds, and almost immediately after(usually for Kh missiles/Kalibrs or drones its an hour-couple of hours, if there indeed were launches) it begins - some sort of distant AA gunfire, couple of booms from different sides(maybe launches of something?), sequence of explosions in the air, regular stuff.
And then there is two bluish-white flashes somewhere above(i am being retarded, looking around from the balcony instead of going to the shelter/staying far away from outer walls), i dont see the hit/explosion itself but it illuminates surrounding area and some time later the sound arrives.
Loud indeed, but unlike "usual" explosions which sound/feel like much louder rolling thunder, it sounds really "sharp" and quick - like a clap, or snap; and immediately after there is slightly quieter firework-like crackle. Maybe it was the hit itself, maybe "deconstruction" of the kinzhal, cant say for sure.
And thats it, everything goes silent.
>it sounds really "sharp" and quick - like a clap, or snap; and immediately after there is slightly quieter firework-like crackle
> Maybe it was the hit itself, maybe "deconstruction" of the kinzhal
Pretty much what happened. Patriot is hit-to-kill. Whereas a proxy-fused, large warheads would go boom loudly if it actually intercepted the Kinzhal, it wouldn't necessarily produce the "smack" of two objects moving at high speeds actually forcefully connecting, like you would likely have with hit-to-kill systems. The firecracker noise was probably secondary "explosions" of the debris of both vehicles.
*kneels*
*apologizes profusely*
I am sure this [insert wonder weapon] will turn the tide of the war.
- Putler
still trying to bait (you)s when your technique is so terrible? Yikes anon, please do better.
We're getting a double whammy of angry ziggers and wumaos since their lies about the effectiveness of supersonics are being destroyed in real time.
Especially wumaos because the entire point of supersonic missiles is to destroy the US fleet before they can intercept any crossing of the strait. If patriots can defeat them then they have no fucking chance.
>Nothing personnel, kidzhal
>absolutely seething
Russia does not have a boost glide weapon capable of tactical strikes kek
Chinese century status?
Postponed for two weeks.
just two more centuries
Pork fried
>Of course they'd reveal how patriot shot down the angel above Tokyo during the second coming.
yeah anon it's that ridiculous to claim that a system capable of intercepting something 40 km high at like mach 5 intercepted something 40 km high at mach 5
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA288602.pdf
I posted this in the other thread about the Kinzhal intercepts. PAC-3 was successfully tested in mock scenarios and the surrogates used had the Pershing II MARV and very high descent speeds. The successful intercepts you hear about when the US tests it's BMD systems usually end up killing a terminal maneuvering RV flying Mach 8. PAC-3 MSE is likely much more capable.
PI'M PORRY PATRIOT!
>Of course they'd reveal how patriot shot down the angel above Tokyo during the second coming.
The best part about Patriot is that it probably could
NERV's mistake was turning to the UN and not the US
I'm not sorry. I always knew You're the best, Patriot.
Remember when delivery of Patriots was "an escalation" and "totally impossible"?
The Western jets gonna be the same story.
Zelensky has stated that he is expecting to receive jet after the counter-offensive.
IIRC they've been training on F-16s for a while.
Get your facts straight. Poland complained that Germany sent their Patriot from Poland to Ukraine.
(You)
They are deployed in Poland and Scandinavia for jets and missiles, as well as tactical or strategic nuclear attacks. They are deployed in Israel, where it is called the Iron Dome, but not in Palestine.
You might be thinking of David's Sling. It's roughly a patriot analogue with a different radar and the stunner missile. Israel does have patriots though. Iron Dome is a separate project geared more for SHORAD/CRAM. The Tamir missile is a lot smaller and lighter than PAC-3 or stunner
press x for doubt
glowies just confirmed it.
Press S to sneed.
>from the inventors of lopsided barrel
>proud owners of unsinkable moskva
>we present you the unparalelled
America had an equivalent of kinzhal 50 years ago but dropped the program in favour if better missiles
Burgers are more obsessed with trying to get an air breathing hypersonics so they can finish thier ACE program and get a TBCC or RBCC engine for aircraft/spaceplanes.
Basically hypersonics until recently were more a means than the end in itself.
ZISTERS
I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD
Yeah I'm gonna need more proof than a cracked nosecone to say the line, meine schvartza. If anything, it's the opposite of proof, as hypersonic impact does not leave anything so nicely intact.
t. aerospace enjoyer
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>hypersonic impact
It's intercepted near Kyiv. Could've been launched from Belarus and just started accelerating meaning a supersonic interception.
The PAC-3 is heavily geared towards ABM duties. As the Kinzhal is an air-launched ballistic missile, Patriot will be effective at intercepting them. Once again: Russia and China are calling ballistic missiles "hypersonic", while such missiles are dealt with by matured, effective ABM systems.
Calling ballistic (and semi-ballistic) missiles "hypersonic" may be TECHNICALLY true, but ballistic missiles have been hypersonic since the 70s. They aren’t very accurate but that’s not a problem for a nuclear payload; I wonder how accurate these "new" ballistic missiles are. My guess is that they can usually hit a large building but will struggle hitting a compact target like, say, a bunker entrance, or any kind of moving target.
"Hypersonic" is exclusive to MaRVs like Donkeyfeng 21 and ramjet/scramjet cruise missiles. All ballistic missiles are hypersonic so nothing special about them to talk.
Anyways. SHOW ME PROOF HOHOLmoronS.
>officially confirmed by Ukrainian Air Force!
This is gay. That's like saying "capture of bakhmut is officially confirmed by russian armed forces"
>non-analog dagger
I sometimes wonder if it's clear to everyone what the Kinzhal is named after.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanjali
> what the Kinzhal is named after.
"Kinzhal" is generic name for any dagger. This generic name itself likely originates from that thing, but nowadays it describes a class of weapons not this specific one.
Baselard is kinzhal, dirk is kinzhal, tanto is kinzhal, stiletto is kinzhal, katar is kinzhal and so on.
>the entire asymmetric overmatch basis for your First Strike bullshit to make up for material and and moral inferiority completely worthless with ancient SAM systems
lol lmao Soviet Die Hards
You know everything in weapons technology is a tradeoff. Especially when you get to the actualy high end of things.
And the west decided that agile manuverable and hard to detect missiles gives more advantages than verry fast and clumsy missiles.
And from the looks of it that was the right call.
Thirdies seem to assume the US military can do anything, and when they see something fail, they scream like apes because they think that it’s a major problem rather than someone using equipment outside of parameters or just an error
Thirdies also don't understand that failure is part of advancement of scientific knowledge and weapon system performance. They expect instant success from every new thing western armament industry comes up with, which is a bit flattering, but also fucking retarded.
I really do find it hilarious how it’s seemingly expected that any US weapon system should be perfect, though I think it’s a defense mechanism for helplessness, and for that sweet dopamine rush they get when it isn’t perfectl
Things get really retarded when they don't apply same performance requirements of 100% top tier performance all the time to their own thirdie garbage as they do to western stuff.
>Kinzhal misses target
Dumb WECTOID that's just expected*~~*~~ All missile miss*~~*~~ what about patriot in 90's*~~))
>Chingchong ASM fails to clear TEL vehicle
All missiles fail, gweilo!!!! Failure rate is in specs, chinesium strong!!!
It really is some subconscious form of cuckoldry. They recognize superiority on a visceral level, but choose to hate it and envy it.
>It really is some subconscious form of cuckoldry. They recognize superiority on a visceral level, but choose to hate it and envy it.
It's not cuckoldry, it's avarice, pure and simple. They understand see the superiority, the understand it, but it's not just that they want it for themselves. They want it for themselves and they *despise* whoever currently wields it in place of themselves. For any number of reasons, they grow deeply, deeply convinced that it's something that *you* don't deserve but *they* do.
It's lowkey the number one reason people should never fucking want China or Russia in a position of global leadership. America didn't really *want* that, but these people badly do and have whole power fantasies that entail vengeance and subjugation that surround getting it.
The US military spends vast amounts of money testing our systems before they are handed over to the users.
An incredible sum is spent just to make sure the maintenance and operations manuals are the best they can be.
They are trying to build a weapon that the patriot can't shoot down. Not the weapon russia made... get it?
kinzhal is just refurbished iskander
it slows down to iskander speed during terminal phase of flight
Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it true
I'm sorry I didn't know it was supposed to be hypersonic
huh
This reminded me of something
>Putin got asked at a press event in March why they didn't go in on Ukraine in 2014, instead giving them 8 years to prepare. He answered that their hypersonic arsenal wasn't ready yet. Girkin straight up said on his podcast that Putin needs to keep his mouth shut, as even at the time this was seen as a very bad answer.
That response is even more hilarious in light of this shoot-down. Absolute clown show