Oh so how many startups do you see today making coupes in that cost bracket and being profitable? BMW lives off its brand, and only like the top 10% of its offerings begin to be worth the cost while the rest is just bullshit for anything except getting the attention of easy women.
I drive a Prelude
Cope BMW morons
Your shitboxes get mystery oil leaks for no reason, get knock when using normal gas, burn oil, and your dashes break up as bad as late model GMs do
And you pay out the ass for all of that
>I drive a prelude
nah Anon, the cope is entirely yours. I don't even drive a BMW
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's the first 4th generation tank of humanity, of course it's currently the best we've seen. It'll be interesting to see the other 4th generation beasts coming up.
[...] >I drive a Prelude
You managed to declare your homosexualry in 4 words this time.
[...] >> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech,
kek
Ok, thanks for sharing
I'll just go back to driving something that's better than any sub 6 figure BMW and getting pussy while you stay online defending some fat German family's billion dollar company FOR FREE
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, radical new concept.
Have you tried not being poor?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'll just go back to getting blown the frick out by minivans.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I also drive a prelude and im ashamed that you drive one as well.
Its obvious, the K2 Black Panther is by far the strongest brand in the aerospace defense sector for land based equipment, they are latching on trying to subconsciously leech off the hyper-premium brand of the Black Panther brand
It's mediocre tank specialized on a very narrow terrain type that is only found in couple of places on earth from the last generation.
BUT
the name's cool.
> Only 4th gen tank in the world > Best target acquisition system at 10km versus 5km for M1sep3 > 120mm main gun delivers more kinetic force than any other main gun in the world today and at a greater rate > MMC armor vastly stronger and lighter depleted uranium found in 3rd gen mbts > Can operate underwater and float as a mini-destroyer for short periods of time
K2 black panther is the most expensive tank in the world and its not even close, its also probably the best selling export mbt with Turkey and Poland already all in with Egypt likely to buy 1000+ units
>> Only 4th gen tank in the world >K2
no lmao
Nothing you write has any meaning after this point and I refuse to read it until you apologize because you clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
A mix of a couple of south korean tankers who recently joined the board and relentlessly shilled their shit before and poles living vicariously through the korean industry because they have none of their own.
It's really pathetic.
>neet kraut thinks his opinion matters compared to Koreans who have been driving tanks for two years
This just about sums up the difference between Korean and german MIC these days.
>They want the meme hype because their proposed tank solves problems that do not currently exist. >only tank with TAPS >top attack MANPADS have been extremely succesful in ukraine
Lying comes natural to some "people" I guess.
It sure as heck worked, I had people who normally don´t give a shit about military stuff repost the "Germany is bringing back the Panther"-articles on discord.
because the russians admitted that the WWII panther was the best medium tank of the second world war.
And Rheinmetall is using this knowledge to strike fear into the hearts of the russians.
Yes, it was exceptional. People meme it to hell because of early issues, but it ended up being cheaper than a PzIV while being superior to just about any other tank of the war (Centurions arriving on the last day need not apply).
The Panther had the best suspension of all WWII tanks. No tank moved smoothly as a Panther. Excellent ground pressure.
And in 44/45 the suspension has less breakdowns than the Panzer IV one.
All the bad mouthing about german tanks was soviet propaganda. Because the worst suspension had the IS-2 (and 3). Even more breakdowns than the King Tiger.
>How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t
They did for the Jadgpanther that even more overloaded, not sure if the fix was ever produced enough to be applied to Panthers but in the Jagdpanther it did amazingly once the fix was out.
But I'm referring to the final drive since that was the real issue as I'm sure an esteemed expert like you knows.
>30t to 45t
that is a nothingburger
the panther had 16 torsion bar dampended wheels sharing that load. 50% more load is nothing, such systems get calculated with double safety margins
Simply make the bar 30% thicker will solve that issue.
Fricking 1970s agriculture trailers have more wheel loading while going cross country 30mph
>Late war panther was easier to repair
How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t.
Anon was just a brainlet and confused the suspension with a final drive, which also got better later and completely fixed in limited production. At that point the bombing campaigns caused greater issues than any design problems though.
Maybe If you only looked at the hard factors on a stat card in a vacuum removed from the war. In reality, the tank was a logistical nightmare with frequent breakdowns and few spare parts and time consuming maintenance (interlocking roadwheels are a b***h to clean). This is before the high per-unit cost that the germans could not afford in their situation and that the steel was very often poor quality and brittle, leading to fractures and spalling when hit. This also ignores that the Panther is only classified as amedium so it wouldn't upset the tiger as the biggest cat.
M4 was unironically a better tank as it far better suited the war that the US had to fight
Outside of the earliest production it wasn't less reliable than a panzerIV, ended up being cheaper and simpler to build with the improved turret and as cheap as the Panzer IV without it, maintenance was much simplified in a lot of ways compared to earlier tanks overall with extremely quick engine changes possible, spare part production has no connection to a tank design and was improved when speer rationalized production.
Literally everything you wrote in your post us dumb, moronic and wrong. Literally everything, without exception, is fuddlore picked up from semi-informed morons.
Unironically have a nice day.
Its obvious, the K2 Black Panther is by far the strongest brand in the aerospace defense sector for land based equipment, they are latching on trying to subconsciously leech off the hyper-premium brand of the Black Panther brand
> Keyboard warrior dumbass does not realize everything weapons related is referred to as aerospace defense sector by anybody in the industry + investment community
>Making up stuff
It's called "aerospace AND defense sector", you larping moron.
Are you going to explain me how the AR in my AR stands for Assault Rifle?
US car market is the most competitive and honestly Volkswagen should not sell in the US market its synonymous crap
The only part of pic that is a false truth is the US brands near the top (Buick, Dodge, Chevy), this is either car rental or government vehicle fleets or pickup trucks, nobody buys a US brand for autos if they have a choice
>The only mistake VW did in America was let an American golem handle it who thought moving production to Mexico would be a good idea.
VW had factories in Mexico before they ever had factories in the US and their Mexican factory has lower failure rates than their US factory. VW Puebla has been operating for like 60 years.
Every brand worse than 200 should be restricted in the US market until quality is proven, germans make some good cars but volkswagen is an embarrassment
Point of order /k/. A panther is a mythical beast, and does not exist. Lackwits commonly call big cats 'panthers'.
The panther does exist in heraldry though, where it is commonly believed to have a myriad of colors and a sweet smelling odor.
It's the first 4th generation tank of humanity, of course it's currently the best we've seen. It'll be interesting to see the other 4th generation beasts coming up.
[...]
I drive a Prelude
Cope BMW morons
Your shitboxes get mystery oil leaks for no reason, get knock when using normal gas, burn oil, and your dashes break up as bad as late model GMs do
And you pay out the ass for all of that
>I drive a Prelude
You managed to declare your homosexualry in 4 words this time.
> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech, moron thinks its a small group lol
Dumbass
>> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech,
kek
> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech
This is obviously an exaggeration as the US has the greatest depth of advanced weapons tech but SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles
>it's in a title of a youtube video >let's ignore how terrible it actually is and that the autoloader is such garbage it's already set to be replaced with the highest priority
lol, lmao even
You don't even know why that rube goldberg machine is shit, do you?
>SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep tourists and asiatics.
It’s just Leopard 2 with a new turret, nothing special.
Fricking boomers still think this is the 1960s the world is going to piss and shit on your graves when you become worm food in the next few years, why are there so many fricking trannies in the US its like every other male is a homosexual? This monkeypox is your comeuppance monkeys lol
>anon didn't even bother to do as little research as reading the wikipedia page before embarrassing himself
wew
> North America/Europe embroiled in a trans epidemic with 50% of males identifying as gay or bisexual, monkeypox (lol), the most effeminate males in the history of humankind > All white women over 30 lust after bbc or nafri wieners and women under 30 are all kpop zoomers
Lol lmao keep deluding yourself homosexual, take that wiener out of your mouth and "boipucci" and go outside once a week for at least 30 minutes to see what the real world is, lmao
Nothing SK does is "the best". What they DO is make a top 10% performance weapon, with domestic tech trade and production in a cheap enough platform anyone can be interested.
Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive and realistically not good enough unit for unit to consider over the K9, which comes with its own support vehicle at a lower price tag AND Worst Korea will happily set up a factory/maintenance plant in your country if you pay for it.
I don't doubt the KF-51 is markedly better than the K2 as well but GL getting Rheinmetall to hand over every little bit of tech and allowing you to maintain it without having to deepthroat their German operations.
It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts unless it's a direct agreement from the start like the Boxer or Eurofighter where there's significant work from both sides.
Having domestic production of parts > better equipment that you have to rely on foreign nations to supply and MAY even block said parts if you happen to involve yourself in a war they don't like.
> hur durr nothing SK does is the best hur durr need to dilate again hur hurr
Is this you homosexual? Delusional monkey, the whole world is laughing at you, get the frick out of here making shit up to fit your lgbtq critical race theory agenda wiener sucker
> troony telling normal men to dilate, sorry we're not buying into your global homosexual agenda
Not even south korean but its true the whole world is laughing at this, its so fantastically embarrassing its got to be a deranged Russian or Chinese psyops
2 years ago
Anonymous
>normal men >located on the continent called asia
2 years ago
Anonymous
> North America/Europe embroiled in a trans epidemic with 50% of males identifying as gay or bisexual, monkeypox (lol), the most effeminate males in the history of humankind > All white women over 30 lust after bbc or nafri wieners and women under 30 are all kpop zoomers
Lol lmao keep deluding yourself homosexual, take that wiener out of your mouth and "boipucci" and go outside once a week for at least 30 minutes to see what the real world is, lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lay off the British-supplied opium, will you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
A normal man with a pink sock from his military service. Both lol and lmao.
>Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive
Post prices. >It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts
Until very recently the UK refused to buy foreign shit to keep its own capacities alive, now they just buy German.
Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
Norway bought 24 K9s and 8 support vehicles for $230 million, putting them at sub $10 million a piece, possibly even less.
K9s are literally half the price of Pzh2000. Ofc thats not the newest K9 so until Bongland releases their prices for the K9A2, we can't REALLY compare them but it's fairly apparent the K9 is half the price AND comes with support hardware for the price of the Pzh2000 hence it's being adopted across the world at insane rates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
That's not true though lmao
What a stupid fricking lie to tell.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The K9A2 will be similar price to Pzh2000
But the reality is that Germans and South Koreans are autistic and this competition of already most advanced stuff keeps results in better equipment in the works
Its like two powerlifters that can deadlift 400kg and then one gets to 401kg and calls the other guy a pussy thereby motivating the other guy to pull 402kg and then call the 401kg guy a pussy, back and forth ad naseum, but end result is both will eventually get to 500kg+ trying to outdo each other
>Why Panther and not Leopard 3?
I try to give the first serious answer. I suppose it's because Leopard 1 and 2 were built to order for the German army while Rheinmetall developed KF51 on their own and hope the German army may buy them one day or they can export the Panther.
Basing your chassis on a successful earlier design doesn't mean it's not a new tank unless there've only been like 3 new pistols in the last 100 years and the AK is actually an American/German design.
Fricking pseudo-informed morons in this thread.
90% of a product's success is marketing
An M4 wouldn't need any marketing to sell you idiot
Oh so how many startups do you see today making coupes in that cost bracket and being profitable? BMW lives off its brand, and only like the top 10% of its offerings begin to be worth the cost while the rest is just bullshit for anything except getting the attention of easy women.
That's a lot of words to tell us you're gay.
I drive a Prelude
Cope BMW morons
Your shitboxes get mystery oil leaks for no reason, get knock when using normal gas, burn oil, and your dashes break up as bad as late model GMs do
And you pay out the ass for all of that
>I drive a prelude
nah Anon, the cope is entirely yours. I don't even drive a BMW
Ok, thanks for sharing
I'll just go back to driving something that's better than any sub 6 figure BMW and getting pussy while you stay online defending some fat German family's billion dollar company FOR FREE
Okay, radical new concept.
Have you tried not being poor?
You'll just go back to getting blown the frick out by minivans.
I also drive a prelude and im ashamed that you drive one as well.
BMW's are cool as frick.
>I drive a Prelude
opinion disgarded
You didn't post any startups therefore he's right and BMW sucks wiener
post car
Fair chance that Leopard 3 is copyrighted by KMW.
And id imagine Rheinmetall wanting to "break free" from the Leopard-stamp, even if it is Leo-derived
I just want a tank called Löwe.
Its tracks are so wiiiiiiiiide
I want modern maus
>that winking viewport
It's flirting with me.
It's mediocre tank specialized on a very narrow terrain type that is only found in couple of places on earth from the last generation.
BUT
the name's cool.
> Only 4th gen tank in the world
> Best target acquisition system at 10km versus 5km for M1sep3
> 120mm main gun delivers more kinetic force than any other main gun in the world today and at a greater rate
> MMC armor vastly stronger and lighter depleted uranium found in 3rd gen mbts
> Can operate underwater and float as a mini-destroyer for short periods of time
K2 black panther is the most expensive tank in the world and its not even close, its also probably the best selling export mbt with Turkey and Poland already all in with Egypt likely to buy 1000+ units
>> Only 4th gen tank in the world
>K2
no lmao
Nothing you write has any meaning after this point and I refuse to read it until you apologize because you clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
why is there this small group of S-Korean shills in the last few days on /k/. First the jet, now the dumb tank
A mix of a couple of south korean tankers who recently joined the board and relentlessly shilled their shit before and poles living vicariously through the korean industry because they have none of their own.
It's really pathetic.
>neet kraut thinks his opinion matters compared to Koreans who have been driving tanks for two years
This just about sums up the difference between Korean and german MIC these days.
> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech, moron thinks its a small group lol
Dumbass
RHM damage control false flags
Post reunification plans
Here you go man
What is Löwe(baby don't hurt me, don't me no more)
lion
Ok that makes tons of sense.
>tfw no 105mm long cat
why isnt this more common?
Central mounted engine? There is benefit to all the crew being in a single compartment. Communication no need to duplicate interfaces etc.
They want the meme hype because their proposed tank solves problems that do not currently exist.
>They want the meme hype because their proposed tank solves problems that do not currently exist.
>only tank with TAPS
>top attack MANPADS have been extremely succesful in ukraine
Lying comes natural to some "people" I guess.
It sure as heck worked, I had people who normally don´t give a shit about military stuff repost the "Germany is bringing back the Panther"-articles on discord.
because the russians admitted that the WWII panther was the best medium tank of the second world war.
And Rheinmetall is using this knowledge to strike fear into the hearts of the russians.
>panther
>good
Play less War Thunder
Stop watching midwit Youtubers who shill Warthunder
Yes, it was exceptional. People meme it to hell because of early issues, but it ended up being cheaper than a PzIV while being superior to just about any other tank of the war (Centurions arriving on the last day need not apply).
What a load of bullshit. Late war Panther was easier to repair than a Panzer IV and has less breakdowns than a Panzer IV.
>Late war panther was easier to repair
How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t.
The Panther had the best suspension of all WWII tanks. No tank moved smoothly as a Panther. Excellent ground pressure.
And in 44/45 the suspension has less breakdowns than the Panzer IV one.
All the bad mouthing about german tanks was soviet propaganda. Because the worst suspension had the IS-2 (and 3). Even more breakdowns than the King Tiger.
>How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t
They did for the Jadgpanther that even more overloaded, not sure if the fix was ever produced enough to be applied to Panthers but in the Jagdpanther it did amazingly once the fix was out.
But I'm referring to the final drive since that was the real issue as I'm sure an esteemed expert like you knows.
>30t to 45t
that is a nothingburger
the panther had 16 torsion bar dampended wheels sharing that load. 50% more load is nothing, such systems get calculated with double safety margins
Simply make the bar 30% thicker will solve that issue.
Fricking 1970s agriculture trailers have more wheel loading while going cross country 30mph
Anon was just a brainlet and confused the suspension with a final drive, which also got better later and completely fixed in limited production. At that point the bombing campaigns caused greater issues than any design problems though.
Maybe If you only looked at the hard factors on a stat card in a vacuum removed from the war. In reality, the tank was a logistical nightmare with frequent breakdowns and few spare parts and time consuming maintenance (interlocking roadwheels are a b***h to clean). This is before the high per-unit cost that the germans could not afford in their situation and that the steel was very often poor quality and brittle, leading to fractures and spalling when hit. This also ignores that the Panther is only classified as amedium so it wouldn't upset the tiger as the biggest cat.
M4 was unironically a better tank as it far better suited the war that the US had to fight
Outside of the earliest production it wasn't less reliable than a panzerIV, ended up being cheaper and simpler to build with the improved turret and as cheap as the Panzer IV without it, maintenance was much simplified in a lot of ways compared to earlier tanks overall with extremely quick engine changes possible, spare part production has no connection to a tank design and was improved when speer rationalized production.
Literally everything you wrote in your post us dumb, moronic and wrong. Literally everything, without exception, is fuddlore picked up from semi-informed morons.
Unironically have a nice day.
Because its sexy
Intended customers are third world countries that don't care or even like the WW2 reference.
>implying that third world countries would afford this tank
Its obvious, the K2 Black Panther is by far the strongest brand in the aerospace defense sector for land based equipment, they are latching on trying to subconsciously leech off the hyper-premium brand of the Black Panther brand
>aerospace defense sector for land based equipment
> Keyboard warrior dumbass does not realize everything weapons related is referred to as aerospace defense sector by anybody in the industry + investment community
Go back to your video games homosexual lol
>Making up stuff
It's called "aerospace AND defense sector", you larping moron.
Are you going to explain me how the AR in my AR stands for Assault Rifle?
I bet you think dcs is a realistic simulator
Krauts taunt the Russians.
All they gonna get is a big fat nuke in their face.
Oh no!
post the thing with the rocket that falls down
Post more crappy russian military equipment
oh yeah, as if they would get their rusty ass rockets out of the silos
i bet they blow up their own bases like that kursk torpedo
vatBlack folk
Armatta is better just wait Russian will roll through Ukraine with them
All 12 of them?
Different manufacturer.
Because it's a Leopard 2, not 3.
Just with a new gun.
Cope.
Man, the Germans are just not capable of making good tanks anymore.
The same country that makes the Volkwagen, memed as the biggest piece of shit auto in the world, thirdie tier cars
>memed as the biggest piece of shit auto in the world
Picrel would like a word.
They're still fricking Bentleys compared to a Lada, kacap. It's like comparing a bugatti to a shit wagon carried by donkeys.
US car market is the most competitive and honestly Volkswagen should not sell in the US market its synonymous crap
The only part of pic that is a false truth is the US brands near the top (Buick, Dodge, Chevy), this is either car rental or government vehicle fleets or pickup trucks, nobody buys a US brand for autos if they have a choice
The only mistake VW did in America was let an American golem handle it who thought moving production to Mexico would be a good idea.
>The only mistake VW did in America was let an American golem handle it who thought moving production to Mexico would be a good idea.
VW had factories in Mexico before they ever had factories in the US and their Mexican factory has lower failure rates than their US factory. VW Puebla has been operating for like 60 years.
Every brand worse than 200 should be restricted in the US market until quality is proven, germans make some good cars but volkswagen is an embarrassment
Volkswagen did fine before they moved their factories south.
It's the Sig problem all over again.
>Dodge so high
>Chrysler and Jeep so low
>Fiat doesn't make the list
whats going on here? did they just relegate all of their QC to the dodge brand?
they should have called it bob
Point of order /k/. A panther is a mythical beast, and does not exist. Lackwits commonly call big cats 'panthers'.
The panther does exist in heraldry though, where it is commonly believed to have a myriad of colors and a sweet smelling odor.
A panther is just a leopard with reverse albinism
>auto loader
>retains extra crewspace for dedicated drone pilot
>equip tank with loitering AT suicide drones
potential best tank on earth?
It's the first 4th generation tank of humanity, of course it's currently the best we've seen. It'll be interesting to see the other 4th generation beasts coming up.
>I drive a Prelude
You managed to declare your homosexualry in 4 words this time.
>> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech,
kek
> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech
This is obviously an exaggeration as the US has the greatest depth of advanced weapons tech but SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles
Consider this:
None of that is true.
>sp artillery
That one made me chuckle.
Look at this "autoloader"
Fricking monkeys lmao
Dumbass neckbeard monkey lmao
Go put your pea sized brain through a wood chipper toes first homosexual lol
>it's in a title of a youtube video
>let's ignore how terrible it actually is and that the autoloader is such garbage it's already set to be replaced with the highest priority
lol, lmao even
You don't even know why that rube goldberg machine is shit, do you?
>SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep tourists and asiatics.
Cope.
Fricking boomers still think this is the 1960s the world is going to piss and shit on your graves when you become worm food in the next few years, why are there so many fricking trannies in the US its like every other male is a homosexual? This monkeypox is your comeuppance monkeys lol
Cope about what? It just isn’t anything special like the Nexter tank.
>anon didn't even bother to do as little research as reading the wikipedia page before embarrassing himself
wew
>if I lie enough people will believe me!
kek
> it's ma'am!
lmfao dumbass homosexual
Nothing SK does is "the best". What they DO is make a top 10% performance weapon, with domestic tech trade and production in a cheap enough platform anyone can be interested.
Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive and realistically not good enough unit for unit to consider over the K9, which comes with its own support vehicle at a lower price tag AND Worst Korea will happily set up a factory/maintenance plant in your country if you pay for it.
I don't doubt the KF-51 is markedly better than the K2 as well but GL getting Rheinmetall to hand over every little bit of tech and allowing you to maintain it without having to deepthroat their German operations.
It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts unless it's a direct agreement from the start like the Boxer or Eurofighter where there's significant work from both sides.
Having domestic production of parts > better equipment that you have to rely on foreign nations to supply and MAY even block said parts if you happen to involve yourself in a war they don't like.
> hur durr nothing SK does is the best hur durr need to dilate again hur hurr
Is this you homosexual? Delusional monkey, the whole world is laughing at you, get the frick out of here making shit up to fit your lgbtq critical race theory agenda wiener sucker
Found the butthurt south korean.
Cope, seethe and dilate.
> troony telling normal men to dilate, sorry we're not buying into your global homosexual agenda
Not even south korean but its true the whole world is laughing at this, its so fantastically embarrassing its got to be a deranged Russian or Chinese psyops
>normal men
>located on the continent called asia
> North America/Europe embroiled in a trans epidemic with 50% of males identifying as gay or bisexual, monkeypox (lol), the most effeminate males in the history of humankind
> All white women over 30 lust after bbc or nafri wieners and women under 30 are all kpop zoomers
Lol lmao keep deluding yourself homosexual, take that wiener out of your mouth and "boipucci" and go outside once a week for at least 30 minutes to see what the real world is, lmao
Lay off the British-supplied opium, will you?
A normal man with a pink sock from his military service. Both lol and lmao.
>Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive
Post prices.
>It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts
Until very recently the UK refused to buy foreign shit to keep its own capacities alive, now they just buy German.
Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
Norway bought 24 K9s and 8 support vehicles for $230 million, putting them at sub $10 million a piece, possibly even less.
K9s are literally half the price of Pzh2000. Ofc thats not the newest K9 so until Bongland releases their prices for the K9A2, we can't REALLY compare them but it's fairly apparent the K9 is half the price AND comes with support hardware for the price of the Pzh2000 hence it's being adopted across the world at insane rates.
>Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
That's not true though lmao
What a stupid fricking lie to tell.
The K9A2 will be similar price to Pzh2000
But the reality is that Germans and South Koreans are autistic and this competition of already most advanced stuff keeps results in better equipment in the works
Its like two powerlifters that can deadlift 400kg and then one gets to 401kg and calls the other guy a pussy thereby motivating the other guy to pull 402kg and then call the 401kg guy a pussy, back and forth ad naseum, but end result is both will eventually get to 500kg+ trying to outdo each other
Nope BAE bought out some of Rheinmetall and created Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land.
>Nope BAE bought out some of Rheinmetall and created Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land
> Axshually the pzh2000 is a better artillery piece as it fits the german castrated agenda
Everybody knew that germany was a castrated nation post ww2 but its not just figuratively true, why even bother trying to military anymore homosexual?
Compare
to
Actually watch both videos, don't evade the truth, don't whine, do it and then admit you were wrong like a man.
That is not even an autoloader, at best it's a semi-autoloader with assistance.
lmao
It’s just Leopard 2 with a new turret, nothing special.
Objectively both SK and Germany make really good stuff and are both at the top of land warfare tech; US is way ahead in the air and sea though
This is probably the most accurate assessment of land weapons:
MBTs: 1) K2, 2) Leopard 2A7, 3) M1A2sep3
IFVs: 1) Redback, 2) Lynx, 3) M3
Sp Artillery: 1) Pzh 2000, 2) K9, 3) M109a6
Standard issue assault rifle: 1) Daewoo K2, 2) M4 carbine, 3) HK 416
Koreans are fricking moronic, get off my board.
> get off my board hur durr
Which one is you? kek
soulless
>videos comparing a white autoloader vs a korean autloader get posted
>weird sperg starts posting blacked porn
alright
lol
>Why Panther and not Leopard 3?
I try to give the first serious answer. I suppose it's because Leopard 1 and 2 were built to order for the German army while Rheinmetall developed KF51 on their own and hope the German army may buy them one day or they can export the Panther.
It's a different producer.
Rheinmetal don't own the rights to use Leopard as it is owned by KMW
Because they didn't make the previous Leopard mbts?
imagine being proud of driving hyundai. poles are such a joke like holy shit.
It's a turret you can slap on a Leopard or a Lynx, not a new tank
Now I wanna see this monster on a boxer, give me my wheeled Frankentank
Basing your chassis on a successful earlier design doesn't mean it's not a new tank unless there've only been like 3 new pistols in the last 100 years and the AK is actually an American/German design.
Fricking pseudo-informed morons in this thread.
When will furry tanks be a thing?
ramjet ammunitions with 150km soon. (they use a pzh2000 to fire them in their tests in norway)