KF51 Panther

Why did they choose this name? Why Panther and not Leopard 3?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    90% of a product's success is marketing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An M4 wouldn't need any marketing to sell you idiot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh so how many startups do you see today making coupes in that cost bracket and being profitable? BMW lives off its brand, and only like the top 10% of its offerings begin to be worth the cost while the rest is just bullshit for anything except getting the attention of easy women.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a lot of words to tell us you're gay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            post car

            I drive a Prelude
            Cope BMW retards
            Your shitboxes get mystery oil leaks for no reason, get knock when using normal gas, burn oil, and your dashes break up as bad as late model GMs do
            And you pay out the ass for all of that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I drive a prelude
              nah Anon, the cope is entirely yours. I don't even drive a BMW

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the first 4th generation tank of humanity, of course it's currently the best we've seen. It'll be interesting to see the other 4th generation beasts coming up.
                [...]
                >I drive a Prelude
                You managed to declare your gayry in 4 words this time.
                [...]
                >> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech,
                kek

                Ok, thanks for sharing
                I'll just go back to driving something that's better than any sub 6 figure BMW and getting pussy while you stay online defending some fat German family's billion dollar company FOR FREE

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, radical new concept.
                Have you tried not being poor?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'll just go back to getting blown the fuck out by minivans.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I also drive a prelude and im ashamed that you drive one as well.

                BMW's are cool as fuck.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I drive a Prelude
              opinion disgarded

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            post car

            You didn't post any startups therefore he's right and BMW sucks cock

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          post car

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fair chance that Leopard 3 is copyrighted by KMW.
    And id imagine Rheinmetall wanting to "break free" from the Leopard-stamp, even if it is Leo-derived

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a tank called Löwe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its tracks are so wiiiiiiiiide

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want modern maus

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that winking viewport
      It's flirting with me.

      Its obvious, the K2 Black Panther is by far the strongest brand in the aerospace defense sector for land based equipment, they are latching on trying to subconsciously leech off the hyper-premium brand of the Black Panther brand

      It's mediocre tank specialized on a very narrow terrain type that is only found in couple of places on earth from the last generation.
      BUT
      the name's cool.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Only 4th gen tank in the world
        > Best target acquisition system at 10km versus 5km for M1sep3
        > 120mm main gun delivers more kinetic force than any other main gun in the world today and at a greater rate
        > MMC armor vastly stronger and lighter depleted uranium found in 3rd gen mbts
        > Can operate underwater and float as a mini-destroyer for short periods of time

        K2 black panther is the most expensive tank in the world and its not even close, its also probably the best selling export mbt with Turkey and Poland already all in with Egypt likely to buy 1000+ units

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >> Only 4th gen tank in the world
          >K2
          no lmao
          Nothing you write has any meaning after this point and I refuse to read it until you apologize because you clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why is there this small group of S-Korean shills in the last few days on PrepHole. First the jet, now the dumb tank

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A mix of a couple of south korean tankers who recently joined the board and relentlessly shilled their shit before and poles living vicariously through the korean industry because they have none of their own.
            It's really pathetic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >neet kraut thinks his opinion matters compared to Koreans who have been driving tanks for two years
              This just about sums up the difference between Korean and german MIC these days.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech, retard thinks its a small group lol

            Dumbass

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            RHM damage control false flags

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post reunification plans

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here you go man

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is Löwe(baby don't hurt me, don't me no more)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lion

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok that makes tons of sense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw no 105mm long cat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why isnt this more common?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Central mounted engine? There is benefit to all the crew being in a single compartment. Communication no need to duplicate interfaces etc.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want the meme hype because their proposed tank solves problems that do not currently exist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They want the meme hype because their proposed tank solves problems that do not currently exist.
      >only tank with TAPS
      >top attack MANPADS have been extremely succesful in ukraine
      Lying comes natural to some "people" I guess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It sure as heck worked, I had people who normally don´t give a shit about military stuff repost the "Germany is bringing back the Panther"-articles on discord.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because the russians admitted that the WWII panther was the best medium tank of the second world war.
    And Rheinmetall is using this knowledge to strike fear into the hearts of the russians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >panther
      >good

      Play less War Thunder

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop watching midwit Youtubers who shill Warthunder

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, it was exceptional. People meme it to hell because of early issues, but it ended up being cheaper than a PzIV while being superior to just about any other tank of the war (Centurions arriving on the last day need not apply).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What a load of bullshit. Late war Panther was easier to repair than a Panzer IV and has less breakdowns than a Panzer IV.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Late war panther was easier to repair
          How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The Panther had the best suspension of all WWII tanks. No tank moved smoothly as a Panther. Excellent ground pressure.
            And in 44/45 the suspension has less breakdowns than the Panzer IV one.

            All the bad mouthing about german tanks was soviet propaganda. Because the worst suspension had the IS-2 (and 3). Even more breakdowns than the King Tiger.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t
            They did for the Jadgpanther that even more overloaded, not sure if the fix was ever produced enough to be applied to Panthers but in the Jagdpanther it did amazingly once the fix was out.
            But I'm referring to the final drive since that was the real issue as I'm sure an esteemed expert like you knows.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >30t to 45t
            that is a nothingburger
            the panther had 16 torsion bar dampended wheels sharing that load. 50% more load is nothing, such systems get calculated with double safety margins
            Simply make the bar 30% thicker will solve that issue.
            Fucking 1970s agriculture trailers have more wheel loading while going cross country 30mph

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Late war panther was easier to repair
              How they managed to fix overloaded suspension that was planned for 30t tank not for 45t.

              Anon was just a brainlet and confused the suspension with a final drive, which also got better later and completely fixed in limited production. At that point the bombing campaigns caused greater issues than any design problems though.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe If you only looked at the hard factors on a stat card in a vacuum removed from the war. In reality, the tank was a logistical nightmare with frequent breakdowns and few spare parts and time consuming maintenance (interlocking roadwheels are a bitch to clean). This is before the high per-unit cost that the germans could not afford in their situation and that the steel was very often poor quality and brittle, leading to fractures and spalling when hit. This also ignores that the Panther is only classified as amedium so it wouldn't upset the tiger as the biggest cat.

      M4 was unironically a better tank as it far better suited the war that the US had to fight

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Outside of the earliest production it wasn't less reliable than a panzerIV, ended up being cheaper and simpler to build with the improved turret and as cheap as the Panzer IV without it, maintenance was much simplified in a lot of ways compared to earlier tanks overall with extremely quick engine changes possible, spare part production has no connection to a tank design and was improved when speer rationalized production.
        Literally everything you wrote in your post us dumb, retarded and wrong. Literally everything, without exception, is fuddlore picked up from semi-informed retards.
        Unironically have a nice day.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because its sexy

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Intended customers are third world countries that don't care or even like the WW2 reference.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying that third world countries would afford this tank

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its obvious, the K2 Black Panther is by far the strongest brand in the aerospace defense sector for land based equipment, they are latching on trying to subconsciously leech off the hyper-premium brand of the Black Panther brand

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >aerospace defense sector for land based equipment

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Keyboard warrior dumbass does not realize everything weapons related is referred to as aerospace defense sector by anybody in the industry + investment community

        Go back to your video games gay lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Making up stuff
          It's called "aerospace AND defense sector", you larping retard.
          Are you going to explain me how the AR in my AR stands for Assault Rifle?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I bet you think dcs is a realistic simulator

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Krauts taunt the Russians.
    All they gonna get is a big fat nuke in their face.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        post the thing with the rocket that falls down

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post more crappy russian military equipment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh yeah, as if they would get their rusty ass rockets out of the silos
      i bet they blow up their own bases like that kursk torpedo

      vatmorons

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Armatta is better just wait Russian will roll through Ukraine with them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All 12 of them?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Different manufacturer.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a Leopard 2, not 3.
    Just with a new gun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, the Germans are just not capable of making good tanks anymore.

      Cope.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, the Germans are just not capable of making good tanks anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The same country that makes the Volkwagen, memed as the biggest piece of shit auto in the world, thirdie tier cars

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >memed as the biggest piece of shit auto in the world
        Picrel would like a word.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're still fucking Bentleys compared to a Lada, kacap. It's like comparing a bugatti to a shit wagon carried by donkeys.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          US car market is the most competitive and honestly Volkswagen should not sell in the US market its synonymous crap

          The only part of pic that is a false truth is the US brands near the top (Buick, Dodge, Chevy), this is either car rental or government vehicle fleets or pickup trucks, nobody buys a US brand for autos if they have a choice

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only mistake VW did in America was let an American golem handle it who thought moving production to Mexico would be a good idea.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The only mistake VW did in America was let an American golem handle it who thought moving production to Mexico would be a good idea.

              VW had factories in Mexico before they ever had factories in the US and their Mexican factory has lower failure rates than their US factory. VW Puebla has been operating for like 60 years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every brand worse than 200 should be restricted in the US market until quality is proven, germans make some good cars but volkswagen is an embarrassment

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Volkswagen did fine before they moved their factories south.
              It's the Sig problem all over again.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Dodge so high
            >Chrysler and Jeep so low
            >Fiat doesn't make the list
            whats going on here? did they just relegate all of their QC to the dodge brand?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they should have called it bob

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Point of order PrepHole. A panther is a mythical beast, and does not exist. Lackwits commonly call big cats 'panthers'.
    The panther does exist in heraldry though, where it is commonly believed to have a myriad of colors and a sweet smelling odor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A panther is just a leopard with reverse albinism

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >auto loader
    >retains extra crewspace for dedicated drone pilot
    >equip tank with loitering AT suicide drones
    potential best tank on earth?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the first 4th generation tank of humanity, of course it's currently the best we've seen. It'll be interesting to see the other 4th generation beasts coming up.

      [...]
      I drive a Prelude
      Cope BMW retards
      Your shitboxes get mystery oil leaks for no reason, get knock when using normal gas, burn oil, and your dashes break up as bad as late model GMs do
      And you pay out the ass for all of that

      >I drive a Prelude
      You managed to declare your gayry in 4 words this time.

      > 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech, retard thinks its a small group lol

      Dumbass

      >> 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech,
      kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > 90% of the free world recognizes SK dominance in weapons tech

        This is obviously an exaggeration as the US has the greatest depth of advanced weapons tech but SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Consider this:
          None of that is true.
          >sp artillery
          That one made me chuckle.
          Look at this "autoloader"

          Fucking monkeys lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dumbass neckbeard monkey lmao

            Go put your pea sized brain through a wood chipper toes first gay lol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it's in a title of a youtube video
              >let's ignore how terrible it actually is and that the autoloader is such garbage it's already set to be replaced with the highest priority
              lol, lmao even
              You don't even know why that rube goldberg machine is shit, do you?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >SK has been on a tear lately and some of their stuff is the best like tanks, ifvs, sp artillery, standard issue assault rifles
          This is what happens when you don't gatekeep tourists and morons.

          It’s just Leopard 2 with a new turret, nothing special.

          Cope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fucking boomers still think this is the 1960s the world is going to piss and shit on your graves when you become worm food in the next few years, why are there so many fucking trannies in the US its like every other male is a gay? This monkeypox is your comeuppance monkeys lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope about what? It just isn’t anything special like the Nexter tank.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >anon didn't even bother to do as little research as reading the wikipedia page before embarrassing himself
              wew

              > North America/Europe embroiled in a trans epidemic with 50% of males identifying as gay or bisexual, monkeypox (lol), the most effeminate males in the history of humankind
              > All white women over 30 lust after bbc or nafri cocks and women under 30 are all kpop zoomers

              Lol lmao keep deluding yourself gay, take that cock out of your mouth and "boipucci" and go outside once a week for at least 30 minutes to see what the real world is, lmao

              >if I lie enough people will believe me!
              kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > it's ma'am!

                lmfao dumbass gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing SK does is "the best". What they DO is make a top 10% performance weapon, with domestic tech trade and production in a cheap enough platform anyone can be interested.
          Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive and realistically not good enough unit for unit to consider over the K9, which comes with its own support vehicle at a lower price tag AND Worst Korea will happily set up a factory/maintenance plant in your country if you pay for it.
          I don't doubt the KF-51 is markedly better than the K2 as well but GL getting Rheinmetall to hand over every little bit of tech and allowing you to maintain it without having to deepthroat their German operations.
          It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts unless it's a direct agreement from the start like the Boxer or Eurofighter where there's significant work from both sides.
          Having domestic production of parts > better equipment that you have to rely on foreign nations to supply and MAY even block said parts if you happen to involve yourself in a war they don't like.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > hur durr nothing SK does is the best hur durr need to dilate again hur hurr

            Is this you gay? Delusional monkey, the whole world is laughing at you, get the fuck out of here making shit up to fit your lgbtq critical race theory agenda cock sucker

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Found the butthurt south korean.

              Cope, seethe and dilate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > chud telling normal men to dilate, sorry we're not buying into your global homo agenda

                Not even south korean but its true the whole world is laughing at this, its so fantastically embarrassing its got to be a deranged Russian or Chinese psyops

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >normal men
                >located on the continent called asia

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > North America/Europe embroiled in a trans epidemic with 50% of males identifying as gay or bisexual, monkeypox (lol), the most effeminate males in the history of humankind
                > All white women over 30 lust after bbc or nafri cocks and women under 30 are all kpop zoomers

                Lol lmao keep deluding yourself gay, take that cock out of your mouth and "boipucci" and go outside once a week for at least 30 minutes to see what the real world is, lmao

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Lay off the British-supplied opium, will you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A normal man with a pink sock from his military service. Both lol and lmao.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pzh2000 is still a better artillery piece than the K9. It's just vastly more expensive
            Post prices.
            >It's why Germany struggles to get UK contracts
            Until very recently the UK refused to buy foreign shit to keep its own capacities alive, now they just buy German.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
              Norway bought 24 K9s and 8 support vehicles for $230 million, putting them at sub $10 million a piece, possibly even less.
              K9s are literally half the price of Pzh2000. Ofc thats not the newest K9 so until Bongland releases their prices for the K9A2, we can't REALLY compare them but it's fairly apparent the K9 is half the price AND comes with support hardware for the price of the Pzh2000 hence it's being adopted across the world at insane rates.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Pzh2000 is some $20 million a unit.
                That's not true though lmao
                What a stupid fucking lie to tell.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The K9A2 will be similar price to Pzh2000

                But the reality is that Germans and South Koreans are autistic and this competition of already most advanced stuff keeps results in better equipment in the works

                Its like two powerlifters that can deadlift 400kg and then one gets to 401kg and calls the other guy a pussy thereby motivating the other guy to pull 402kg and then call the 401kg guy a pussy, back and forth ad naseum, but end result is both will eventually get to 500kg+ trying to outdo each other

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nope BAE bought out some of Rheinmetall and created Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope BAE bought out some of Rheinmetall and created Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Axshually the pzh2000 is a better artillery piece as it fits the german castrated agenda

            Everybody knew that germany was a castrated nation post ww2 but its not just figuratively true, why even bother trying to military anymore gay?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Compare

              to

              Actually watch both videos, don't evade the truth, don't whine, do it and then admit you were wrong like a man.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is not even an autoloader, at best it's a semi-autoloader with assistance.
                lmao

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s just Leopard 2 with a new turret, nothing special.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Objectively both SK and Germany make really good stuff and are both at the top of land warfare tech; US is way ahead in the air and sea though

    This is probably the most accurate assessment of land weapons:

    MBTs: 1) K2, 2) Leopard 2A7, 3) M1A2sep3

    IFVs: 1) Redback, 2) Lynx, 3) M3

    Sp Artillery: 1) Pzh 2000, 2) K9, 3) M109a6

    Standard issue assault rifle: 1) Daewoo K2, 2) M4 carbine, 3) HK 416

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Koreans are fucking retarded, get off my board.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > get off my board hur durr

        Which one is you? kek

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    soulless

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >videos comparing a white autoloader vs a korean autloader get posted
    >weird sperg starts posting blacked porn
    alright
    lol

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why Panther and not Leopard 3?
    I try to give the first serious answer. I suppose it's because Leopard 1 and 2 were built to order for the German army while Rheinmetall developed KF51 on their own and hope the German army may buy them one day or they can export the Panther.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a different producer.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rheinmetal don't own the rights to use Leopard as it is owned by KMW

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they didn't make the previous Leopard mbts?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine being proud of driving hyundai. poles are such a joke like holy shit.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a turret you can slap on a Leopard or a Lynx, not a new tank
    Now I wanna see this monster on a boxer, give me my wheeled Frankentank

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Basing your chassis on a successful earlier design doesn't mean it's not a new tank unless there've only been like 3 new pistols in the last 100 years and the AK is actually an American/German design.
      Fucking pseudo-informed retards in this thread.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When will furry tanks be a thing?

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ramjet ammunitions with 150km soon. (they use a pzh2000 to fire them in their tests in norway)

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