Keychain flails/whips

Britbong thread. I'm looking for a good keychain flail/whip setup for EDC. Any advice?
• What's the optimal length of chain?
• How thick should the chain be? Does it even matter?
• I heard that keys lack enough weight to do serious damage. What items can I add to the keyring to weigh it down more, but without losing plausible deniability?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    deez nuts

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Use the chains they keep around your wrist.
    Strong enough to keep you in line, it should work.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally illegal to use that for self defense. You will get nicked if you do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Source? I'm pretty sure it's legal to use anything for self defence, as long as it's reasonable force for the situation.
      What's illegal is carrying something specifically for the purpose of self defence, as that means it's premeditated violence. For example, carrying a bottle of water to drink from is perfectly fine. But if you're carrying a bottle with the intention of using it for self defence, then that bottle becomes a deadly weapon and is illegal.
      In other words, you just need plausible deniability on everything. You must be able to produce a believable, innocent reason for carrying anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I just happen to carry this heavy chain that I just happen to have trained on how to use for self defense purposes officer
        Why not use your fists and scrap like a man? Using weapons is dishonourable anyways.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          have a nice day pikey

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >But if you're carrying a bottle with the intention of using it for self defence, then that bottle becomes a deadly weapon and is illegal
        Jesus dude lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          For some reason, the ultimate taboo is self-defence.
          You can get a shotgun certificate easy. A firearms certificate is also not that hard. Just say you want to shoot targets as a hobby. But the easiest way of getting rejected? Say that you want a gun for self-defence. We have more right to use our guns to shoot targets or squirrels than we do to defend ourselves. Coppers in this country are worthless at protecting people, so we basically just have to hope we never get attacked. Shit's fucked.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because more people injure themselves with guns than they do defending themselves with guns. 'i need a firearm for self defence' is not a statistically valid reason in a first world country.

            [...]
            [...]
            Just carry a flashlight that's long enough to use as a kubotan.
            Plus you can get ridiculously bright ones that can legit blind people temporarily. Lastly they're pretty much legal anywhere, you can take them on an airplane even. Just don't get one of those gay ones with the serrations around the lip of the lamp.

            this. also learn how to use your fists, because confidence in those will solve the problem 95% of the time, and a willingness to use them will solve the problem the remaining 4.99% of the time. if facing asians, use your shoe. easy.

            a pocket chain is a joke weapon. just wear thick stainless steel rings on each finger and keep a roll of coins or a pen with a steel body in your pocket.

            just make sure you can throw a punch without getting all panicky if you're going to start weighting your fists, it's a very easy way to break your fingers.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >because more people injure themselves with guns than they do defending themselves with guns. 'i need a firearm for self defence' is not a statistically valid reason in a first world country.
              Then surely if the risk of gun injury is the motivating factor, that would mean that nobody should have a gun for any reason, if the risk of owning a gun outweighs any other benefit. After all, is it not better to not be able to shoot targets than to be killed with your gun? Yet the authorities focus specifically on gutting self-defense. Why is this? Why can we do anything except defend ourselves (not even non-lethal weapons are permitted) and the police will not give a single shit when you get attacked on the street (happened to me twice)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if the risk of gun injury is the motivating factor, that would mean that nobody should have a gun for any reason
                that's one hell of an extrapolation to make, and irrelevant other than for fomenting a gun control argument. we don't want that again, we want to discuss appropriate means of self defence in ol' blighty.
                >the risk of owning a gun outweighs any other benefit
                that's the bit you've added in.
                >is it not better to not be able to shoot targets than to be killed with your gun?
                can you rephrase that if you want me to respond?
                >Yet the authorities focus specifically on gutting self-defense. Why is this?
                Because harm reduction based on statistics and first world country, like has already been stated. I know you're a responsible gun owner who doesn't make mistakes and would improve a situation involving guns by having your own, but not everyone is.
                >Why can we do anything except defend ourselves (not even non-lethal weapons are permitted) and the police will not give a single shit when you get attacked on the street (happened to me twice)
                I'm sorry about your experiences, but you're allowed to defend yourself, and the idea that you're at serious risk of random assault is a fantasy. Your subjective experiences aren't relevant to addressing the point which is one of simple statistics.

                Also, sorry, but if you weren't scrapping when you got into your fights, then I don't believe you. I'm not saying I've never had some lippy twat trying to start stuff, and yes I've had a knife waved around infront of my face, but these situations were de escalated by walking away or bert staring, and extremely rarely, with my fists.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              so if they wanna injure themselves then let them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >carrying a bottle of water to drink from is perfectly fine. But if you're carrying a bottle with the intention of using it for self defence, then that bottle becomes a deadly weapon and is illegal.
        Can you carry a water bottle of spiritus or something?
        Like claim "I'm a fucking secret alcoholic asshole." and if you need self defense, just spin the top off, pour it on a motherfucker and light them up?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They have acid attack problems. As in they put acid in a sports top bottle. I would rather be shot than have acid thrown in my face, no lie.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why would you want to set anyone on fire, are you unhinged?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You will get nicked if you do.
      Who the fuck cares?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        reported to the home secretary

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They make these monkey fist weapons, which are heavy metal balls attached to a bit of rope, and they're supposed to be quite damaging. But the problem with a monkey fist is it's obviously designed as a weapon, which would make it illegal if caught with it, unless you have some believable excuse like coming home from a martial arts class or something (and can prove this to them).
    So I'm looking at my options to create something similar, but in a manner with plausible deniability. I need suggestions for things I can attach to the keyring to weigh it down more so it can deal more damage.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can’t even carry a piece of metal without a loisence
    Good god bongfags are cucked.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Come on guys, does anyone have any actual advice? Guns aren't the only weapons.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      here's some advice, stop living in an anarcho-tyranny shithole

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wish I could.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          whatever you use for self defense, the fact you've even asked about what you can use to defend yourself makes it illegal, because the purpose of whatever we tell you to carry makes it "a weapon"

          So just get a fucking illegal gun or knife or whatever, and if you ever have to defend yourself don't stick around for the rozzers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the fact you've even asked about what you can use to defend yourself makes it illegal
            Sure, but only if they were to find that out, which they won't.

            [...]
            unironically illegal to carry in bongistan, which I hope illustrates the point that any self defense weapon is illegal so you might as well either bend over for the raping or carry an illegal gun

            Lol wot. Just get a knife like normal criminal scum.

            What are you twelve?

            >So just get a fucking illegal gun or knife or whatever
            >you might as well either bend over for the raping or carry an illegal gun
            >Just get a knife like normal criminal scum
            Not only would that get me charged with a crime if I use it to defend myself, but it would also run the risk of getting arrested before I even run into any self defence scenario, just by the police happening to catch me with it. i.e. I might get in trouble even before I get a chance to use it. I'd rather not go to prison. Better to have something that looks innocent and that nobody will hassle me about.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Honest question, how do you reconcile it with your dignity as a man to be denied the most basic need of proper self defense?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's awful, but what can I do about it? One person alone can't change anything. We have no freedom of speech here either. Post something mean on Twitter and you go to prison.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not knocking you I was just being curious. I imagine it to be a soul crushing condition you're in but on the other hand most Brits seem to be somewhat okay with the status quo.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It is soul crushing, but most people are NPCs with no soul to crush.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a Bong, I have guns at home and done years in the military, and I would love to be able to carry and use forearms for self defence.
                But in all honestly, I'm 30 years old and been in one fight, which barely qualified as a fight. I've seen a couple more but nothing that would justify people actually needing weapons or firearms.
                And its not impossible to defend yourself in this country, pic related, its just that there is a lot of focus on proportionally. Burglars do get killed and no charges are bought against the homeowner, you just seen to justify it well.
                Again, would love castle doctrine style laws where you can actually protect your home from criminals, but violent crime is very low unless you are part of the criminal community yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I would love to be able to carry and use forearms for self defence
                You should get a forearm licence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I need a license for these weapons baby

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's a Germanic right to carry a weapon. Only slaves were barred from being armed since time immemorial. Accepting that you need to prove anything to anyone to be able to properly defend your life means that you already internalized serfdom.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Not only would that get me charged with a crime if I use it to defend myself, but it would also run the risk of getting arrested before I even run into any self defence scenario, just by the police happening to catch me with it. i.e. I might get in trouble even before I get a chance to use it.
              What I'm trying to make you understand is that statement is true about literally any effective self defense tool. Some mall ninja retardation with key whip chains are just going to get you stabbed or shot by someone who doesn't care about carry laws.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the fact you've even asked about what you can use to defend yourself makes it illegal
            Sure, but only if they were to find that out, which they won't.

            [...]
            [...]
            >So just get a fucking illegal gun or knife or whatever
            >you might as well either bend over for the raping or carry an illegal gun
            >Just get a knife like normal criminal scum
            Not only would that get me charged with a crime if I use it to defend myself, but it would also run the risk of getting arrested before I even run into any self defence scenario, just by the police happening to catch me with it. i.e. I might get in trouble even before I get a chance to use it. I'd rather not go to prison. Better to have something that looks innocent and that nobody will hassle me about.

            You can carry mutil-tools and pen knives as long as they don't have a locking blade and are shorter than 3".
            Pic related, you can just use the plier heads to jab and hammer with, and if you need to explain yourself to the law (don't stick around if you hurt someone, run the fuck away) you always carry your mutitool around and you needed to protect yourself.
            Odds are, you are a retard anyway that will never be in a place where you will get mugged, or you live in a place where you are likely to get mugged and you will get the shit kicked out of you by people tougher and outnumbering you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thing about giving real advice is it doesnt just exist in the confines of what you asked. get a gun if you live in a cucked country. . . sorry but the chain flail whatever gay thing you asked is just that, gay and it will get your ass beat or shot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      someone did you give advice and you called him a pikey. go a boxing club, lift some weights. do some HIIT. take your your height in cm and minus 100. that figure should be your weight in kg, somewhat lean.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't call anyone a pikey. Physical fitness and learning fist fighting is all well and good, but not exactly relevant. Weapons aren't a replacement for basic fighting ability, but similarly boxing isn't a replacement for weapons. You should have both. You should maximise your advantage. If you have a weapon in your hand and the opponent doesn't, then you have a reach advantage and can keep at a safe distance while dealing damage. A chain gives you reach while also being able to be squashed down into a pocket for easy carry.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're gonna pull out a pocket whip and they are going to throw acid in your face.
    Invest in good footwear instead and start jogging.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rec a pair of motorcycle or work gloves (reinforced knuckles) and maybe a roll of coins or bic lighter to hold in your fist. Take some boxing lessons, do some cardio.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      called a kubotan by the way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/bDGSclE.png

        unironically illegal to carry in bongistan, which I hope illustrates the point that any self defense weapon is illegal so you might as well either bend over for the raping or carry an illegal gun

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      called a kubotan by the way

      [...]
      unironically illegal to carry in bongistan, which I hope illustrates the point that any self defense weapon is illegal so you might as well either bend over for the raping or carry an illegal gun

      Just carry a flashlight that's long enough to use as a kubotan.
      Plus you can get ridiculously bright ones that can legit blind people temporarily. Lastly they're pretty much legal anywhere, you can take them on an airplane even. Just don't get one of those gay ones with the serrations around the lip of the lamp.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also another benefit of a flashlight over a kubaton is that you can hold them in your fist like a roll of nickels to reinforce your fist and add weight to it.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The utter fucking state of Bongistan

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    more keys

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do British people have any sense of self preservation?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol wot. Just get a knife like normal criminal scum.

    What are you twelve?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just carry a gun

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Bong
    >Keychain whip

    You don't need it, you guys are, sadly, pussy whipped as it is.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get a decent chain that won't snap in half and throw all the keys you can on the keyring + some random aesthetic bullshit, the denser the better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How long should the chain be?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Long enough to get some good momentum going but not stupidly long, it should still look like a purely fashionable wallet chain

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a pocket chain is a joke weapon. just wear thick stainless steel rings on each finger and keep a roll of coins or a pen with a steel body in your pocket.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ride a bicycle, carry a chain and lock as big and heavy as you like.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's a diy melee weapon in watch dogs 2 which consists of an 8-ball attached to a rope

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you could manufacture pipe weapons and overthrow your tyrannical government instead of resorting to bits of pig iron on a chain you filthy bong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >posts a render because he didn't live by his words and illegally manufacture an NFA item
      you tell 'em champ

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but OPSEC you literal retard gorilla moron bitch ass sissy boy cumguzzler

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread made the reason why brits are always angry on PrepHole a lot clearer

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just make a smile link or whatever you cunts call it
    get a big thick chain and attach a fucking padlock to it
    if the cops ask you are a local punk and just breaking clothes in before you stich em up

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've never been in a situation where I had to resort to violence.

    Am I just lucky, or too likeable to punch?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you the same cunt asking about using an umbrella for self defense the other night.

    Lmao just go to your local boxing gym or something they'll make you skip and teach you how to throw a punch

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be bri'ish
    >live in a gray, dreary land
    >earn a mediocre salary but a high cost of living
    >the women don't look great
    >everything requires a loicense
    >can't even defend yourself when attacked
    >not even that safe
    and for some reason they still have a net positive migration? Why? It's better than the likes of Somalia but I cannot think of a more miserable land in the G8.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Pepper spray in the UK carries the same legal penalties as carrying a gun does.

    It's even worse than I thought. Just do what it takes and leave no witnesses.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's to hoping the first person you whip strangles you to death with it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      meds

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol that's some gay shit they sell to basedbois that can't go hand to hand. Take a jujitsu or krav maga course a few days a week and you will learn how stupid this thread is.

    Don't believe me. Find me a real example of someone using these mall ninja toys in self-defense. It just doesn't happen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based and goatse pilled.
      >just knock there fucking block off m8

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