kek the stinger outperformed the starstreak in Ukraine.

kek the stinger outperformed the starstreak in Ukraine. Why does the UK domestically produced inferior systems to what’s readily available on the market. They do it with armored vehicles too

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    And assault rifles

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 the inevitable British cope about how the UK put a gag order in place over starstreaks performance.

      Arma?

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >inb4 the inevitable British cope about how the UK put a gag order in place over starstreaks performance.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly the case

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That isn’t the British MOD telling the ukranians they can’t share information about starstreak.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's current MoD policy, you think the Ukrainians are being given weapons without strings? There's a reason twitter photos and videos are out primary source on content from Brimstone, Starstreak, Martlet and other UK supplied weapons. As far as i know we've not even seen the UK supplied M270/GMLRS posted (there are visual differences to the US version, most notably the armoured slats on the windows)

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >The British are so scared of their weapons underperforming again that there is a gag order in place
            fucking kek

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              that's just a freedom of information request, not a "gag order", they get denied for fuckin anything. I had one denied about street signs once lel

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            But

            >pls believe my starstreak puff piece article
            You mean zelensky's own adviser?

            >https://twitter.com/AlexLuck9/status/1517884695010476035?s=20&t=h6UZYlvdWmEKl6rjTVfWqA

            claims the presidents advisor completely broke that privacy clause. Wouldn’t that be a direct violation of the strings attached to the British aid? How are the British handling this breach?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Told him not to do it again and he didn't so it's water under the bridge now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Told him not to do it again
                source?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's self evident, he didn't do it again.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >It's self evident
                ah yes I too saw it in a dream

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry that's classified.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            super gay. I just want to see 1 (one) thermal/nvg video of a Chally 2 slapping a T-72 with HESH

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not sure they factored in upholding British honour on PrepHole in their decision, you should appeal as that is surely in the public interest.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          They ask for another month or so to balance the "risks" in these cases, may still be released. I think we're past caring what Russia thinks.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's what happens when your country is run by tories for decades.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >implying the labour trannies would be anything different

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >this cope
        We know for a FACT how the Tories have wrecked this country. "B-but Labour is worse" is just desperate speculation.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >implying the labour trannies would be anything different

          It's what happens when your country is run by tories for decades.

          Both parties are two sides of the same gnomish coin. Tories would rather import 5 million pakis to see a 0.001% GDP increase while Labour would do it just because they hate native britons

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I know that PrepHole is a low key gay board... but you're really giving it away now.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'M STILL SORRY STARSTREAK

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the biggest disappointment with starstreak is that it hasn’t scored any fast jet kills. I understand that it’s saclos so the likelihood of the right operator being in control at the right time is slim but I was hoping for atleast one. When the stinger bagged that su-35 I was taken aback. When I saw the interviews with the guys who shot down missiles with their stingers i jumped on the bandwagon

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Probably the biggest disappointment with starstreak is that it hasn’t scored any fast jet kills
      But it has.
      >British-made Starstreak anti-aircraft missile system is responsible for the downing of the Su-35.
      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainians-post-photos-of-russian-fighter-jet-they-say-they-shot-down/ar-AAVOg1R

      Also how many times and why do these threads keep being made?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Big difference when the MOD explicitly states what shot down a plane and
        >”it is claimed the starstreak”
        Claimed by no one in particular
        Is this what the British really have to fall back on?

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why does the UK domestically produced inferior systems to what’s readily available on the market.

    Has anyone even been as far?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That’s not a complete sentence

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Newfag

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That’s not a complete sentence

      Newfag

      [...]

      y'all new

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        How the fuck did you do that?

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >8 replies
    >8 posters
    It really does look like the general consensus is that the starstreak underperformed expectations.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Starstreak had two dozen kills in a single month, we don't even have evidence of 12 stinger kills in total.

    Starstreak is clearly the better missile, longer range, huge NEZ, impossible to spoof, shorter engagement time, more lethal effect on target. OP is butthurt for some reason.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >pls believe my starstreak puff piece article but ignore every stinger kill reported
      No

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >pls believe my starstreak puff piece article
        You mean zelensky's own adviser?

        >https://twitter.com/AlexLuck9/status/1517884695010476035?s=20&t=h6UZYlvdWmEKl6rjTVfWqA

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You've changed your tune, what happened to only 5 confirmed stinger kills? lol

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Looks like the your quote said 5th confirmed missile shootdown
          >confirmed missile shootdown
          >missle shootdown
          And what you said was confirmed kills
          >confirmed kills
          That implies against asl target types

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why only 5 kills against missiles? they are basically target drone tier targets? makes sense that they'd dedicate a low end system like stinger to that job. Frees up the more capable systems like starstreak and gepard for the front.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >cruise missiles are not important targets
              huge cope. The startstreak has been relegated to drone duty mostly but I’m not going to minimize the importance of killing drones for the sake of a PrepHole argument

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They are important, they aren't hard targets to shoot down though. Sub sonic, straight line, no decoys or defences, no ability to react and probably flying in a chain. Not exact a pop up attack helicopter or fast jet with armour.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The stinger also killed helicopters, jets, and drones as confirmed by the ukranian MOD. Why are you focusing only on its missile kills.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >intercepting cruise missles is le bad

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >2 out of 37 were downed by Stingers
        The other 35 were downed by Starstreak

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >SACLOS
      >non fire and forget
      >proven to be ineffective against fast moving targets in combat

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >proven to be ineffective against fast moving targets in combat

        >can hit targets manoeuvring at 9g at max range (twice the range of stinger)

        pick one, have fun eating flares

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This hurts and confuses the starstreak enjoyer

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Remember how mad you were after your months of Starstreak threads when this happened?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'M SORRY STARSTREAK!

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Starstreak is just too complicated for filthy slavs to understand. In the hands of an english gentleman it outperforms the stinger quite handily

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Posting the video on Twitter, Reznikov (UKranian MOD) wrote:

    >”Ten months ago, in Washington DC, I asked for Stingers for the Ukrainian Armed Forces and heard ‘It’s impossible’ many times.

    >“Today a Russian SU-30 jet was shot down by a Ukrainian Stinger in the Kharkiv region – so, the impossible is indeed possible.”

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/6302393/moment-russian-fighter-jet-shot-out-sky-stinger-missile/amp/

    https://www.kyivpost.com/russias-war/watch-video-shows-moment-russian-jet-shot-down-over-ukraine.html

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If it didn't work, why does Ukraine keep asking for more of them?
    The only answer I get is some kind of vapouring about how the Ukraine wants to puff up egos in the UK or something because of something something reasons.

    You're never gonna convince these spastics because A. They're trolls
    B. Some of them are paid to try and demoralise you

    So why bother responding?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >If it didn't work, why does Ukraine keep asking for more of them?
      You have been asked to source this claim before but you never can. The UK sending more =/= ukranians asking for them. Let’s let the free market decide. How many orders did the UK receive for starstreak since the start of Ukraine? Piorun got orders. Stinger got 2 different orders and the fins are willing to pay over $1million a missile to secure a batch of stingers before the US decides to produce its stinger replacement.
      https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/finland-stinger-man-portable-ground-air-missiles

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Stinger got 2 different orders and the fins are willing to pay over $1million

        Is that it? Starstreak is £3m a missile, as you'd expect for a vastly more capable system.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And yet it isn’t selling

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >pls buy our $3million missile that’s only really Ed few Croce against helicopters and drones!
          it’s no wonder starstreak has to be given away

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Can't take orders if we're not making any more of them.
        And again, the government doesn't send shit unless it's been asked for because shipping is expensive.
        >Lets talk about market forces
        >Until those market forces prove me wrong, then they're um, bad or something
        You are a clown.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Can't take orders if we're not making any more of them.
          If it had demand the UK would either start producing then again or allow someone else to produce them on license. The fact that production is ended completely and a huge majority of its stocks being sent to Ukraine signals the UK is moving on from it

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Starstreak operators

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Stinger operators

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder that the US DoD describe stinger as obsolete.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >US describes system that’s actively killing Russian warplanes as obsolete in bid to fund even better domestically produced MANPADS
      No one is saying the US isn’t going to build a better MANPADS, but the stinger is still performing in combat 40 years after seeing combat for the first time.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >No one is saying the US isn’t going to build a better MANPADS, but the stinger is still performing in combat 40 years after seeing combat for the first time.

        So what? it's still not as good as Startrstreak, this isn't controversial to anyone who can look at the specs of the weapons, unless of course you spend months making dozens of threads about how bad it was only to get humiliated. It's the warriortard origin story and it's hilarious. The UK lives rent free in his head.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And after the Mi-28 shootdown he went on full meltdown rather than just say he's sorry lol

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The even funnier development was when he announced his dropping of the warrior subject to focus on the Koreans only to get humiliated further with orders for HIMARS and other US tech getting canned in order to get Korean stuff.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It’s performed better than starstreak. On paper stats don’t matter when we have real world examples. Stinger has performed better and people are actually still buying it. No one is buying starstreak

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            and the spear has killed more people than the m16 so it's a better weapon right?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              No. What I’m saying is the on paper stats of the starstreak just haven’t translated into real life. The stinger is cheaper, lighter, fire and forget and at the end of the day you’re still killing planes with it. I understand your pride in the system and that’s great but to say that it’s better than the stinger without being able to back it up is stupid

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >No. What I’m saying is the on paper stats of the starstreak just haven’t translated into real life

                How would you know?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Complete lack of starstreak performing in Ukraine compared to other legacy MANPADS

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Complete lack of starstreak performing in Ukraine compared to other legacy MANPADS

                The Ukrainians say otherwise, two dozen aircaft in a month. Since then they've had more than 1000 extra missiles delivered.

                I think you just can't hande that stinger is the best the US has and the UK system makes it look shit. Like you cant even engage supersonic, receding targets with stinger.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I think you just can’t handle being outperformed by a cheaper American missile. It’s ok domestically produced British gear is usually inferior to American gear as it is.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/KNjaRls.png

          And after the Mi-28 shootdown he went on full meltdown rather than just say he's sorry lol

          Lamo warriortard is literally bottled cringe

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's because the US always assumes it is fighting peers.

      Meanwhile in this war we've seen M113s used with great effect and Carl Gustavs taking out a T-90

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What are these
    > sartstreak bad
    threads for months ? Is there a schizo whose mother was raped by the starstreak's lead engineer or what ?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Na, just some brown lad unable to cope with the superbness of Bong weapon technology.

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