Kalashnikov was so much ahead of his time

AK had had gas piston, fold stock, side charging handle and caliber similar to 300 blackout several decades before ARs got such improvements.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gas piston
    DI ARs are better.
    >folding stock
    Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot. You'd know that if you had one.
    >side charging handle
    Not better in any way. It's reciprocating and carries extra mass for even more recoil than is really necessary.
    >caliber
    7.62x39 generally punches clean holes through people and doesn't tumble unless you're using Yugo shit or whatever. Also arcs like a rainbow because it's so slow.

    AR is better in general and the Vz.58 is the better 7.62x39 rifle anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot
      Why are you lying gay?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Underfolders allow no real cheek weld you noguns gay. They will kick you in the jaw. They're stolen straight from the MP40 anyway.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          t. never shot an underfolder

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >newfag doesn't even know how to link a post
            Predictable.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Retard, he was denying a (you)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I was just pretending to be retarded

                >you probably look like a fucking Neanderthal
                Aren't Neanderthal's the opposite of chinlets? Which would make my point still stand and you a retarded homo.

                Underfolder AK fags think the coolness of an underfolder outweighs the merits of marksmanship and they start thinking that just because they can hit a man sized paper target at 100 years that their rifle is "good enough". Your 6 MOA rifle is bad and you should feel bad.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >actually cool guns are bad
                >being a chinlet is cool
                Lmao you're such a gay, drink a beer and lighten up will ya

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >stock wobbles and collapses, has no lockup, and you can't get a proper repeatable cheekweld on it
                >but it's cool and manly hurr durr, muh beer
                It's bad. Side folders are infinitely better, even triangle folders. I'd even take a fucked up 2012 era Tapco side folder over an underfolder for any serious application.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, never even held an underfolder, either.
                >muh based gun jezzus says underfolder wobble

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Underfolders do wear out and get wobbly.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy, but it's funny you think your AK "marksmanship" has any significance whatsoever.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you are getting 10 in groups at 200 meters you should probably start questioning your gear, kid.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only thing I'll ever question is whether I'm having fun, cause that's the only application of shooting an AK I have and so do you, you fucking blowhard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tell that to all those Ukies that are blasting AKs and putting drunk Russians into the ground at this very moment, dipshit gay.
                >it'll never happen to me
                >that means I don't need to be prepared
                The absolute state of PrepHole in 2022.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I shoot 10in ropes on your wife's face

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you had an AR you'd shoot 12in ropes, gaykid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unless you're using Yugo shit
      Don't remind me on that missed opportunity to cop that Romanian M67 ammo crate.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I passed on a full crate of Golden Tiger for $260 a few years ago. Fuck my entire ass, anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Fuck my entire ass, anon.
          I'm not even gay and I feel that sentiment daily.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            First time I bought 5.45x39 was a spam can of 1,080 rounds for $180 back in 2011 or so. The state of 5.45x39 now makes me seriously depressed.
            That being said, the AK didn't get good until the AK74. I have more 7.62x39 AKs than 5.45x39 AKs, but 74s are just better in every way. ARs are still objectively better, though. Just don't have as much soul.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wish I bought a 5.56 AK kit instead of another 7.62. Convenient as it might be, I got another 7.62x39 kit since it feeds from my single ammo pool.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I stayed away from 5.56x45 AKs for years because I was convinced the straight walled cartridge would be less reliable than 7.62/5.45x39 and I regret not at least buying a $250 Saiga to convert when they were so plentiful.

                https://i.imgur.com/1NWmFcG.jpg

                >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot
                Reading chinlet gays like you cry about underfolders makes me love my Hungarian even more

                Post your face, you probably look like a fucking Neanderthal.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you probably look like a fucking Neanderthal
                Aren't Neanderthal's the opposite of chinlets? Which would make my point still stand and you a retarded homo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot.
      Only if you're exclusively shooting from a bench, you're not a gay right anon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you can't shoot something from a bench comfortably, how do you think you're going to fare while standing and bending around corners and shit?
        Underfolders are cool, but they're objectively the worst folder type for AKs and it's not even close. North Koreans with their weird top folders would probably argue with you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >If you can't shoot something from a bench comfortably, how do you think you're going to fare while standing and bending around corners and shit?
          >t. Bench boomer
          Opinion discarded

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Marine with more time behind an M240b than you have holding hands with a girl, anon. Underfolders are dogshit, I don't make the rules. It is what it is.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm a marine
              have a nice day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot
      Reading chinlet gays like you cry about underfolders makes me love my Hungarian even more

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Vz.58 is the better 7.62x39 rifle anyway
      This

      https://i.imgur.com/mBaxrwg.png

      AK had had gas piston, fold stock, side charging handle and caliber similar to 300 blackout several decades before ARs got such improvements.

      >gas piston, fold stock, side charging handle
      None of these were new by the time the AK was developed
      Gay bait threas but I'll bump anyways

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine being wrong on all counts, lmao, Here comes his "I know more than the army" response.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's why the US army uses AKs, right? Stupid dildo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >M14 more reliable than AR15 and AK47
        XD

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the Vz.58 is the better 7.62x39 rifle anyway
      I have nothing against the Vz.58, in fact I like it a lot, but it's not better at all. Omly thing it has going for it, it's lighter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot. You'd know that if you had one.
      Depends on the folder. They're not all the same. Some lock on both sides, some only lock on one. The best ones are also in line with the action rather than angled down.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Underfolders are dogshit to actually shoot.
      triangle folders? wire folders?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no good way to mount optics
    >no buffer tube to extend moment of intertia / recoil impulse
    >larger reciprocating mass to further increase recoil impulse
    >no user accessible adjustable gas port
    >not free float barrel and handguard
    >7.62x39 is slow. Modern doctrine is for high velocities.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no good way to mount optics

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I stand by my statement.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thread is about the AK being ahead of it's time
        >side rail not added to receivers for multiple decades after initial design
        Try to keep up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then the entire conceit about mounting optics is irrelevant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon. Anon, please.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Early AKs didnt have rail mounts

        https://i.imgur.com/mBaxrwg.png

        AK had had gas piston, fold stock, side charging handle and caliber similar to 300 blackout several decades before ARs got such improvements.

        MP44 had most of those features aside from the folding stock, but it did have a scope mount early in its design,
        >Long stroke gas piston
        >Pistol Grip
        >Threaded barrel
        > side charging handle
        >Button mag release
        >inline recoil spring
        > dust cover

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have one. While it's the best way to mount an optic on an AK I wouldn't say it's a good way to mount an optic on a rifle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >needing an acessory to use an acessory
        lel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tell us your thoughts on Unity mounts, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no buffer tube
      You are the only person I've ever seen who thinks it's a problem.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough. I value smooth recoil impulse over folding stocks, so to me a buffer tube is worth it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ahead of it's time
      we're talking about 1947 bruh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no good way to mount optics
      Comrade you dont need optics
      >7.62x39 is slow. Modern doctrine is for high velocities.
      Modern doctrine?
      Pic very much related

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The AK gas piston was lifted from the M1 garand

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Garand was not designed with a gas piston, the M1 is a shit rifle and they had to redesign the gas system, which they copied off the AVS36

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fg42 is oldest most advanced for its time

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you retard?
    The AK didn't do anything new, the piston was already common in many designs.
    The caliber was just a copy of the german kurz and it's easily the worst intermediate cartridge in the cold war with low lethality, crappy ballistic and trash magazines. And of course the AK is trash after the first shot.

    Guess what, the soviets dropped the 7.62 in 20 years, the 5.45 a copy of the 5.56 has been used for +50 years and still doing well.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      7.62 was designed in 1943 so it's not the worst intermediate cartridge of the cold war. It's the best intermediate cartridge of wwii. Also, check it out https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouhGN6zcrWE

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The final refuge of AK gays is in the dreamy escape of dieselpunk nostalgia.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah and it all fucking sucks and couldn't make use of any of those "features," effectively.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >caliber similar to 300 blackout several decades before ARs got such improvements.
    .300 Blackout is not an improvement to the AR platform, and 7.62x39 is not similar but highly superior to .300 Blackout.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of the worst things are the kalash is that it is not standardized. Every AK has an ethnicity where it can only exchange those parts with. This type of manufacturing is preindustrials and should have gone away with a long time ago.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think you mean the Sturmgewehr 44

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