>KAC's entire claim to fame is the M110

>KAC's entire claim to fame is the M110
>But the rifle is infamously pretty shit and people who have used it in combat really don't like the thing
Can someone explain to me why guccifags continue to worship this company and why anyone would pay out the nose for this shitty rifle when you can get a SCAR for cheaper?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your entire premise is wrong. KAC’s claim to fame is everything they make being fantastic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Then why is that the only gun they make that anyone important uses?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Secret service uses SR16s numb nuts

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay and? How often is the secret service carrying an AR into combat? They're always either armed with handguns/PDWs or set up in overwatch with a sniper.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Okay and? How often is the secret service carrying an AR into combat
            Everyone is afraid to fight them. But in all seriousness, they protect the most powerful man in the world and choose a Knights Armament. You can gloat when they pick PSA I guess.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Secret Service can basically spend "lmao whatever it costs" money on small arms. ANYTHING that can be bought and produced in the western world is on their purchase list. Per unit cost, per ammo cost doesn't matter to them. They can buy literally whatever they want, no matter how boutique or gucci or small-unit-production, and they CHOOSE Knights Armament. That should tell you something

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Okay and? How often is the secret service carrying an AR into combat
          Everyone is afraid to fight them. But in all seriousness, they protect the most powerful man in the world and choose a Knights Armament. You can gloat when they pick PSA I guess.

          The Ranger Recon Company also uses SR-16s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He went from I think 2nd batt to SF. He was never apart of the RRC

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            noob tube on .22 rail
            I thought they learned not to do this or old pic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay and? How often is the secret service carrying an AR into combat? They're always either armed with handguns/PDWs or set up in overwatch with a sniper.

          >Okay and? How often is the secret service carrying an AR into combat
          Everyone is afraid to fight them. But in all seriousness, they protect the most powerful man in the world and choose a Knights Armament. You can gloat when they pick PSA I guess.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why do they have NVGs outside in the daytime?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              incase someone turns the sun off.

          • 1 month ago
            BGB

            17HMR in the neck from 200 yards.

            Gurgling bloody mess.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You need to stop getting your education off PrepHole dude. Holy shit.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >infamously pretty shit
    2 people I talked to who carried it liked it, except for how God damn long it was with the supressor.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KAC main selling point is it's dope logo and it's quad rails.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it safe to insert the supressor inside my anus or do I end like Mr. Hands?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Should be safe enough if you wait for it to cool down and use lube.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lube or Lubeanon?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >sick ass rail
    >sick ass suppressor
    >sick ass stock
    >sick ass caliber
    Idk anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Disabled furry
      lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks furry is an insult
        Also you're probably malding about not even being able to afford a ris 2 lmao kope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/hpzpbWE.jpg

          >sick ass rail
          >sick ass suppressor
          >sick ass stock
          >sick ass caliber
          Idk anon

          I see your ban is finally over anon!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every interview with actual servicemen who used it when it came out absolutely loved it for the advantages it had over bolt-action rifles and the shit-ass M1As converted to designated marksman use. KYS, homo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah not shit it's better than an M14 that was raped into being a precision rifle or a fucking bolt gun. But give them a SCAR or an LMT and they would absolutely prefer those.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The LMT is literally an SR25 copy and the SCAR is a worse rifle than both in every way except price.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >SCAR is a worse rifle than both in every way
          You are genuinely retarded. The SCAR weighs half as much while being more reliable and just as accurate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >more reliable
            lmao
            >and just as accurate.
            SCAR confirmed justasgood
            Keep coping.
            KAC>LMT>>>>>FN

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you don't own a firearm from a single one of those manufacturers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The SCAR weighs half as much
            >16” regular barrel with mlok LMT is about 9.8 lbs, so lets say 10lbs
            >SCAR17 is 8 lbs
            The scar is light, but lets not make exaggerated claims here.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >just as accurate.
            The SCAR 20 may be as accurate, but the SCAR 17 isn't.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But the warranty gets voided if you suppress it and i dont know if you know what that long tube on the kac is sir.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They weren't around back then, you absolute gay. And SCARs are NOT a fucking precision rifle. Not inherently accurate and shit triggers. And an LMT is basically an AR-10, so you are agreeing with me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >sub moa
          >"not inherently accurate"
          keep digging

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There may be a reality where the SCAR is “sub-MOA” but it’s not this one.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              SCAR 20 is

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Before or after you turn it into a bolt action because it pops primers causing malfunctions every time you fire?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I have watched a single video on YouTube as well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao it’s so bad some stores don’t even stock the 6.5CM version of the 20. Let’s not pretend MAC has a 1 and a million example here.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >6.5CM
                6.5CM users deserve it. The 308 20s is sub moa and has no issues

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I see the KAC IDF is here already.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know every team who used the SR25 hated it and had horrific experiences, but I haven't heard anything about the m110

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what were the complaints?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KAC invented the RIS system. Its like saying Chrysler is only known for their minivans, it may be so but they invented power steering; so their DNA is in every modern car.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >car company analogy
      Chrysler is dead, they're just a brand name owned by Chysler-Dodge-Jeep-Ram-Fiat-Citroen-Opel-Peugot-Vauxhall-Alfa-Lancia-Maserati doing business as Stellantis

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And just like Chrysler, KAC is a shit company propped up by government gibs and braindead boomers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Unlike Chrysler, KAC is still an independent company.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would sooner believe that those who dislike the m110 did so because of the shitty scopes, rather than the gun itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I'm sure the complaints about the reliability were actually caused by the scope.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The M110, like every fucking thing fielded by the military, especially the damn SCAR, has issues.

    I am a gunsmith. I have worked on SR-25's, FN-SCAR's, and M14's. The SR-25 is the objective best option of the three.

    Most of the complaints regarding the SR-25's accuracy came from snipers, whom are used to bolt guns explicitly engineered for accuracy and nothing else.
    Most of the complaints regarding reliability come from SCARfags, who don't like how the AR-platform's intended configuration is several magnitudes more effective than the SCAR, and use the SCAR's one half-decent leg up as justification.

    Fact is, the AR-10 platform was engineered to have light weight, low recoil, and amazing accuracy for a semi-auto design. Eugene Stoner succeeded, and proceeded to watch the military force him to downsize his achievement to the AR-15.

    The SCAR, meanwhile, was made to be an M14 in disguise, and has all of the same fundamental engineering failings.

    Over reliance on weight to reduce recoil.
    A shitty hybrid short-stroke long-stroke piston system that has the benefits of neither system.

    These are the two cornerstones of the SCAR and M14; heavy and impractical abominations designed by committee, not engineers.

    The AR platform was engineered specifically to solve the problem, every single marksman that had me fix their SR-25 likes theirs, and every single "operator" I knew that owned a SCAR tried to pawn it off to me when the damn things inevitably lost their charm and reality set in that they got scammed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >These are the two cornerstones of the SCAR and M14; heavy
      bro what. The SCAR is light as fuck for a .308 autoloader.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The SCAR, meanwhile, was made to be an M14 in disguise
      >Over reliance on weight to reduce recoil.
      wtf are you talking about, noguns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the AR-platform's intended configuration is several magnitudes more effective than the SCAR
      hyperbolic bullshit. who are you trying to impress with such nonsense?

      >military force him to downsize his achievement to the AR-15.
      that's just plain wrong. watch the Stoner interview. he himself co-created the .223 and was content with the result.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I am a gunsmith.
      keep lying on the internet, gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You've voided your warranty, oof

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >was made to be an M14 in disguise
      Just put that at the beginning next time so I can stop reading sooner. Verification not required.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice larp fking liar

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >”I’m a gunsmith everybody!”
      Either you’re the worlds worst gunsmith and you know very little about what you’re talked about…or more likely you’re a liar LARPing as a gunsmith to try and justify your disdain and inability to afford a SCAR. I do actually work with firearms, and I can tell you having shot the SCAR-17 and 16 multiple times they’re both extremely soft recoiling. Though I will say the SCAR-16 in all honesty is an over rated concept the 17 is excellent and typically the only work orders I’m filling on them are for dudes who have no idea how to mount a muzzle device to make it a suppressor host.

      >TLDR You’re a lying noguns LARPing as a gunsmith because you can’t afford a SCAR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Scar 17 has horrible recoil.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          uhhhhh

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          … for a chud

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          says literally nobody who has actually shot one

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            IMO my former scar 17 had more recoil than my brownells AR10, FAL, SR25 or APC308.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a fucking retard

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why has this board devolved into consumerist brand wars?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hex receiver mosins got too expensive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was always like this, what the fuck are you talking about?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the matrix must be fed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Newfag

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because of /ARG/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The same gay shit happens in akg but it's over ancient shit with particle board handguards

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rifle is fine, I’ve used it plenty and had no real complaints other than shooting alongside an xm2010 it really becomes apparent how lacking 7.62 nato really is as a long range round.

    >t. B4

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KAC make the Stoner LMG which is the single best fucking belt fed used by socom ever.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Magazines are shit and it's too fucking long. Both the LOP (whose idea was it to make an A2 stock that can only get longer?), and suppressor are unnecessarily big

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KAC claim to fame is the hand guard, retard

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    quad rails are dogshit.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't these in the process of being replaced with a 417 variant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, the M110A1 is a dmr with 200m less effective range than the M110. Funnily enough my old unit received theirs like 2 years ago and they were all immediately deadlined because of an extractor issue, and even after that was fixed they were never once (during my time there anyway) taken out of the arms room and used.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The one design flaw is the suppressor mount. It relies on a slip fit for alignment. As you shoot it, it will carbon lock onto the alignment features and will then hold zero. As soon as you knock it hard or remove it, it will change your zero. It's small, and it varies across all of them depending on how perfect the fitup is, but it's a real issue at range.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Substantiate your claims

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From who did you hear that the M110 is bad? All veterans I talked to have said it was fine, including a ranger marksman.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KAC is owned by retarded lazy fat boomers who don’t have an ounce of integrity or give a shit about their customers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      didnt they say that they dont like selling their rifles to civilians? what a bunch of gays

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, cause then people actually attempt to hold them accountable for shitty QC.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That was over a decade ago and a result of bad barrels.
    Every SR-25 since was good.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ask a guy who owns one anything

    >although I will be going to bed shortly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How does it feel to shoot?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        surprisingly light recoiling, it is absolutley not made to be shot from anything other than prone IMO, the suppressor really is fuck huge. Carbon lock on the can is a concern however I clean mine after shooting to mitigate it. Overall it is a very nice gun that I like a lot and I really want to get their 6.5 upper to see how it shoots.

        >will post pics shortly once I get in bed and have my phone.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >fr f2 as well
            >desert setting
            Is that you, Ian?

            Whoever you are, you must have a hell of a job to afford tastes like that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but there were a bunch of FRF2s for sale on eurooptic a while ago.
              The OG M110/MK11 has issues because it is a gun designed in the 1980s based off the original AR-10 pattern. They are also shit old and have been used and abused in inventory for quite a while.
              When they were adopted there was no SCAR or AR-10 derivatives to compete with. Knights is responsible for the modern AR-10s that evolved past the Armalite designs.
              >KAC doesn't give a fuck about the civilian market
              KAC's civilian orders program exists to keep them afloat between military contracts. They cannot afford nor justify upscaling their production to be able to meet government contracts with a surplus of capacity to sell to the civilian market at the same time. Their backlogs are assfucked right now, because they are stuck fulfilling the Marines NT4 suppressor order and SR-16s & LAMGs for USSOCOM.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cool.
                I pity all the normalfags who only know about the big defense contractors like Colt or Boeing, without realizing that there's a constellation of little guys who do specialty work for the government.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I would trade my large penis to switch places with you.
            I’m dead serious.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why hasn't the SR-25 been made with a forward assist?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Failure to go into battery isn't as common an issue on the big bore AR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It could help on more adverse conditions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Military didn't require it, and Stoner didn't want it.

      Cool.
      I pity all the normalfags who only know about the big defense contractors like Colt or Boeing, without realizing that there's a constellation of little guys who do specialty work for the government.

      Larue makes a shitload of money just making random mounts for shit, like the M68 CCO and light mounts and IZLID mounts and scope mounts. Same with Geissele, MIC is so fucking big that even scoring the small fry shit makes you millions.
      People hate on companies that prefer military contracts to civilian, but think about all the companies that make things almost exclusively for the military sector (Smith Enterprises, Ops Inc/Allen Engineering, Krieger, A.R.M.S., etc etc.)

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They shoot like .70 MOA from factory (5rd groups 175gr) and are semi automatic

    Its one of the best semi auto .308s made, twice as accurate as a SCAR 17 with comparable ammo at the least

    Mines hit .206 moa 3 round groups and .716 moa 5 round groups with 168gr SMK OTMs

    Stop being poor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lives in an apartment

      Oh am I laffin

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Weird, I've heard nothing but praise for it. "My baby" the sassr and about how much they loved it. Or the singular person but you get what i mean.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people who have used it in combat really don't like the thing
    Do you know anyone who has used it? The guys I worked with from 2004-2017 who were issued it raved about it (there's a lot of them). Put in great work with it. Had many, many combat deployments under their belt with it. The guys who were unfortunate enough to have gone from a modified M-14 rig to the M110 saw it as the second coming it was such an improvement in accuracy, reliability and manual of arms. I saw guys doing downright magical stuff with M118LR and an M110 at ranges that still boggle my mind. Seems like you are making shit up tbqh or relying entirely on dipshit internet gun nerds with no firsthand experience.

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