KAC or Geissele Uppers?

I am looking at getting either a URGI/Super Duty or a KAC SR15 upper.

Not considering price, which is better and why? Argue away, I am here to learn.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KAC=$2,000 QC check(per rifle)
    Guyslee=Expensive because name.
    Buy an FN of you want muh milspec

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not considering price

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2000 for 11.5
      It hurts why do i have be poor... why did have buy my handguns I don't use

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KAC regularly lets duds out as well so the 2000$ QC doesn’t really buy much

      My lower doesn’t even drop PMAGs freely, and I have had malfunctions with the upper. It’s also not even gassed that well.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every company produces and ships duds

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The issue is I’m not entirely confident KAC will fix my dud.

          It straight up will not freely drop PMAGS, which I feel is unacceptable for a rifle that costs 2100$ when I had purchased it. The malfunctions I’ve had have been sporadic and difficult to replicate reliably, I have shot brass and steel through it and I have more issues with brass ammunition, which is noticeably overgassed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you identified where it is being held up at? Possible the mag release is seated too deeply, ez fix. If machined too close tho..:(

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I haven’t really looked too much into it because it’s not my primary rifle. What I will say is that I don’t really care why it’s hanging up, I just care that it’s hanging up. It’s a ridiculously expensive and overhyped rifle that came from a KAC authorized dealer and doesn’t run reliably/has QC issues.

              I’m only putting this out there so people understand that even spending thousands on firearms doesn’t guarantee you’re going to get a good product.

              To put this into perspective, I trust my frankenstein rifle more than my KAC.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but straight from their mouths they say the pricetag is due to the QC. They are not using any different materials or any better tolerances than anyone else. Only material improvement is they are using whatver Chrome formula or double chrome shit FN created.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            QC can take you from 1/100 defects to 1/1000 defects to 1/10000 defects to 1/1000000 defects. But it can't take you to 0 defects, there's always SOME chance of a fuckup.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both do the same thing just get the one you think looks cooler

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LMT monolithic upper

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've owned two KAC SR15s and currently own a Super Duty. I really like them both. I prefer the super duty's upper in terms of function.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am aware than in earlier URGI the barrel finish was shitty but the current production ones have fixed that issue, have you experienced any performance/accuracy differences?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I have the shitty finish. I have yet to experience rust but I wont deny black oxide is an inferior choice. I don't have any comprehensive graphs or lab (range) results ready to go, but I'd say both brands produce quality rifles and quality lemons. If I was to offer any guidance on your behalf, I would tell you to get whichever upper receiver you personally prefer. Maybe get the cheaper one and use the left overs for accessories or more ammo.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Geissele, no question. You get a standard parts upper that was built to military specifications, tested by crane and accept widely available parts should you ever want to change something.

    KAC is proprietary bullshit no one really needs.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would get a URGI or a DD. Easier to replace the barrel and bolt since they're generic. Have fun buying a Knight's bolt at a 500% mark-up on gunbroker.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A PSA and put the rest of the money into an ACOG

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If money isn't being considered maybe OP can afford a KAC AND an ACOG.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pre 2021 KAC upper or a DD RIS 3 upper

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you put any effort in the last amount into this? Watch a video? Read a fucking product description? Or are you one of those brand new gays that thinks hurr PrepHoles my personal army. Fuck you fuck off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have watched a ton of videos and read product descriptions, but what is down on paper isnt always what is best in the real world, but I thought I would come hear to get perspective that is not that of a youtube gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For real world get an LMT upper. They're monolithic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        theyre all basically the same and you're splitting hairs reading peepeepoopoo

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >geisslop
    >garden gnome’s armament
    Neither, get a DD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't have a monolithic rail, LMT does

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gays lee just because they arent shipping .mil sloppy seconds and will take your shit back and fix it if its fucked, kac doesnt give a fuck about you

    Real answer is dd because dd makes a better barrel and isnt run by a scheming shylock

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is the difference in barrels?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD barrels are extremely nice. I don't have experience with Geissele to comment on their barrels.
        >What do you mean by nice?
        Good accuracy. My two DD barrels shoot around 1moa with good ammo. Good finish, gas port is drilled properly. They also last a long time due to the chrome lining. It's basically getting everything you can ask for out of a barrel except extreme precision that Geissele or Knight's doesn't offer either.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          from the sounds of it the DD barrels and G$ barrels provide no advantage over each other, they are both chrome lined, both have pretty much the same gas system, and both are superbly accurate for my purposes, so i guess it would just come down which bolt/handguard I like better

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1MOA with decent ammo is all most people will need, and is likely more accurate than most people are in most scenarios, if you have a 1MOA gun there are few factors that will result in a miss that are not caused by the shooter or weather conditions

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Acknowledged. I figured I might as well mention they're not the go-to for something like high-power, where they're using cut rifled bartlein/kreiger stuff. For everything other than accuracy focused completion, a DD is more than enough.

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