K9A2 have confirmed to have a higher fire rate than the PZH2000 at half the cost. Germany is over. Chosun will triumph

K9A2 have confirmed to have a higher fire rate than the PZH2000 at half the cost. Germany is over. Chosun will triumph

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    go back to /int/

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >prototype currently in testing is better than a vehicle from the '90s
    Korea, I kneel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >PzH200 in service 1998
      >K9 in service 1999
      Cry harder gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The K9A2 mentioned in the OP is a prototype retard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Prototype upgrade of the best selling spg on the market retard
          baka these PrepHoleoping krauts. Foams at the mouth over kf51 while screaming "prototype" at eveything else.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy cope.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              moron, just stop.
              K9 smashed pzh2000 in the exports market. And while k9 upgrades and variants are in the pipeline and about to be bought by bongs, pzh2000 has no fucking plans or any future at all.
              Save your seething for the winter, kraut. Youll freeze to death otherwise without sucking putins pipe.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                woah I guess the T-72 really is the best tank out there huh

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >compares tank bought by thirdies with no other option with spg bought by countries serious about their defense
                Logic must not be your strong suit, anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That has absolutely nothing to do with the K9A2 being a prototype. You got BTFO because you don't know anything about weapons and are just here to bait, take that L and go home with some dignity left instead of vomiting buzzwords to hide your seething.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >thinks the popularity and reliability of base platform has nothing to do with prototype upgrade
                Keep sucking that pipe, kraut
                Literally nothing to contribute but your coping and seething. Oh thats right, because krauts are getting btfod at every turn by Koreans.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >birthrate of 0.8/f
                germany doesn't need to worry about SK, it will be gone in 50 years.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so mad at Germans?
                I mean, if you're a Korean fawning for your arms industry, okay, but why would a Korean be angry at Germans?
                Or are you some pathetic person of usual suspect origin actively anticipating shit like this while your country gets nothing done?
                Jesus get a grip man.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's not a moron, he's pole (I suspect pole, brits have legitimate tech of their own to flex). And he hates germany because polish government media keeps poles in control by peddling the story of evil germany out to destroy poland like it's 1939.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What are you on about? These krauts literally have nothing to say except autistic screeching about Korea.
                I point this out using actual data about the state of the two relevant mic in the modern era. Quote a single kraut on this thread with information.
                All these threads go the same way:
                1. people point out that Korean stuff is actually decent
                2. krauts scream moron shill
                3. kraut refuses to elaborate
                Just read this fucking thread, retard. Seething krauts vs literal governments raving over Korean equipment. Literal no brainer.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are Korean toilets easier to clean or why do you have such a hard on?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                kraut obsession with toilets rivals pajeets.
                Dilate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm over the target it seems.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Meds, now.
                Mass seething causes mass hysteria, it seems. Krauts see Poles wherever they go.
                Go ahead. Spam the same tired shit about "gibs" and that graph to boot. The entire world is sick of kraut autism. Keep sucking putins pipe and keep seething.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Reeeh germans weak korea strong u mad krauts u mad u mad?
                The only one screeching here is you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This. I quite literally never see a sign of this "kraut seethe" in these threads aside from a voiced frustration about shilling. By comparison nearly every single thread pertaining to korean weapons, including this one, will be filled with responses calling anyone critical or even just ambivalent about said weapons gays, krauts, nips, putin dick suckers and whatever else, without fail. Then the thread archives and a new one pops up, ad infinitum.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So quote a single kraut who uses actual data to back up his so called "claim" that Korean equipment is overrated. You claim an "infinite" number of threads and yet not a single kraut who can say anything of substance. So what do you call it if not seething?
                Back to reality, hans.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >kraut screeches about Koreans
                >kraut quickly switches to screeching about Poles
                >kraut iq unable to handle object permanence
                Pace yourself, kraut. You have a lot more screeching ahead of you when Norway, Australia, and the UK also decided that germ shit isnt worth it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can speak nonsense as you wish, the truth is plain to see for anyone who reads your posts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And I hope they do.
                Korea is clearly the favorite for the bids in Nor/Aus/UK. And despite krauts seething about Poland 24/7, losing out on that major deal is a big blow to germ mic.
                So go ahead. Say anything. Literally anything that is not "moron shill" or "pole gibs". All these threads and all these krauts put together cant make a single valid argument in any of them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is no valid argument against the position that you hate germans, because that's the only thing of importance you've stated here so far.
                As for the rest
                >It's not really surprising that Korea with their much greater domestic orders and more willingness to export has an edge.
                My words. The german MIC is hamstrung by our own government and no german with a clear mind would deny it. If you think that affords you rights to call germans by every english insult you ever learned that's on you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its almost as if Im responding to the army of germs who are being equally as insulting.
                So tell us what exactly "affords you rights" to scream shill and toilet cleaner every chance you get?
                Go read what your people are writing, hans. Not long before you people start crying for jannies.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, he's baiting in hope of some drama
                And it's pretty weak b8 honestly, because the general consensus among the PrepHole Krauts i know is that Korea is one of the first places you should think of when going beyond russian/chink shit due to their very good price/performance ratio

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just stop, your thread is low quality/int/ banter same as your gay post

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This thread literally originared on /int/ as korean shitflinging per

                [...]
                fyi OP is actually a moron

                so that checks out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, he really seems obsessed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >5 krauts in thread seething
                >1 "Korean Pole" (hans cant seem to decide)
                >"obsessed"
                Words have meaning, anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You have been screeching about Germans since it was pointed out that the K9A2 (this thread's topic) is a prototype. Not even once you have replied on topic, just screeching about muh krauts.
                Get a grip lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I see that they replaced reading comprehension with gender studies in germany. Pity.
                I already said that this is a prototype UPGRADE to a proven and popular platform.
                Keep up hans. The only thing worse than kraut screeching is repetitive kraut screeching.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What does that change? Of course a prototype or upgrade or whatever planned to be operational in 2027 is going to be better than something operational since the 90s.
                Notice how you're the only one insulting people here? Again, get a grip.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So then if germs are half as capable as you people pretend then you should also have a prototype, no? The fact that there is no germ equivalent, even as a prototype proves everything I said.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you
                I'm not German.
                And I have no idea if they are developing anything in that field. I know they are making autoloading artillery modules, but I don't know if they released any stats on them or if they are planning to integrate them in a vehicle comparable to the PzH2000 or just on trucks and IFV. I haven't read much on the topic yet.
                I just know that the K9A2 is supposed to come out in a few years and that you are screeching in every thread even marginally related to Germany, including the ones you spam. I repeat: get a grip.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                1. I dont make these threads
                2. I dont usually participate in these kinds of threads
                3. Post guns
                Im just tired of germans getting uppity EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Korea gets mentioned. Im not a Korean or a Pole, but like clockwork, the germans crawl out of the woodwork to assume that Im either one. Or both.
                Not to mention that Im the only one who provided actual substance about weapons on this entire thread. The rest of it is germans being mad about Koreans and seeing Poles behind their eyelids.
                So cry all you want about insults. This board as well as entire governments share my opinion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany is over
                >Pzh is over
                >Why aren't people having a civil discussion
                You are dumb

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Im just tired of germans getting uppity EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Korea gets mentioned
                Wut?
                Not that anon, but did you even read the first posts in this thread?
                Someone stated facts (which doesn't even reflect badly on the K9 itself) to which OP respond with PrepHoleoping and frothing bullshit in the style of
                >China numbah one
                And I don't even have a reason to dislike the K9, because my country uses them and they are solid, just take that gay inferiority complex drama elsewhere

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Did you read those posts? OP gets called a fagget and immediately doxxed. And somehow op and Koreans are the ones with a complex? You and the rest of the krauts seriously need to learn to read.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >/int/ shit stirrer gets immediatley found out and told to go back to /int/
                Wow, some doxx

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Still proves that the krauts are the ones obsessed enough to comb through multiple threads between boards just to scrounge a little something to derail the conversation.
                I swear, vatnik tier.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Could also just be a fellow /int/-er seeing the original /int/ thread suggesting posting to PrepHole and following it here.
                Again, it's a self-admitted shitpost from another board aimed at stirring the pot, that was justifiably called out. Which leads me to assume dishonest intentions behind any thread that's started with intent of praising korean hardware.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >too many Korean shills!
                >Poles everywhere!
                >no wait its only one Korean
                >but also Poles
                Meds, anon, meds.

                Still proves that the krauts are the ones obsessed enough to comb through multiple threads between boards just to scrounge a little something to derail the conversation.
                I swear, vatnik tier.

                Your writing style is recognisable, dude. No kraut conspiracy here.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No u cannot into reading comprehension
                I literally wrote that my country uses the K9 brainlet
                Step up your b8 game dude

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >2. I dont usually participate in these kinds of threads
                Lmao you have been seething about Germany for at least a couple months.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >too many Korean shills!
                >Poles everywhere!
                >no wait its only one Korean
                >but also Poles
                Meds, anon, meds.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                not him but German firms have the following:
                >PzH 2000 which already is as good as this Korean prototype
                >Rheinmetall HX3 with 155mm L/60 howitzer autoloaded in a remote turret
                >KMW RCH 155 autoloaded remote artillery module which can be fitted on tracked chassis like M270 or Leopard 2, wheeled chassis like Boxer or Piranha, and also regular trucks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Eh. PZH2000 has 8 rounds per minute, so that's a little less. It's also only semi-automatic (propellant is hand loaded). The latest K9 can be assumed to be better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >>PzH 2000 which already is as good as this Korean prototype

                At twice the price and now with reliability issues.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >twice the price
                Source? No, comparing mass produced K9 to single reproduced PZH2000 doesn't count.
                >reliability issues
                Not even the ukrainians claim that (they also just ordered 100 pieces). What they did notice is that the guns cannot be shot at maximum fire rate forever without requiring maintenance eventually.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He’s right though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                K9 is close in performance to pzh while costing half as much. That's the main reason it succeeded. Very few countries are willing to pay 10 million euros per hull for PZH 2000.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >higher rate of fire
    9 to 10 rounds per minute as per manufacturer’s specs, this puts it on par with the PzH2000, not above

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No source

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but it ain't no volvo

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No combat use
    We'll see

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your mother is confirmed to have a higher cock sucking rate than a polish whore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >polish whore
      Do they actually get much business?
      Off all the Slavic prostitutes I feel like poles are the last ones that jump to mind.
      Russian meat tasters obviously being number one globally, while Czech would be the number two locally or something.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Prototype
    is this armata levels of delusion?
    or just world of tanks "paper prototype of XYZ is the best tank of WWII" talking

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so fucking sick of korea shill bros. Why does he do it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know but I’m just as annoyed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously its to watch you filthy krauts seethe about it, lol.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Germanophobes are so pathetic, they have to fanboy morontech to flex on germans because they don't have any tech of their own.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is my theory, that its not a koreaboo but a antikraut poster. Although koreans do tend to be the absolute worst combination of arrogance and inferiority complex ever observed, I see no reason for them to be this viruleny germanophobic considering their entire submarine force wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for extensive german support.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's the same guy who pretends to be a Bong while seething about the Boxer/Puma/Lynx/Leopard or whatever lol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the worst thing about koreans is the fusion of western and eastern memes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Although koreans do tend to be the absolute worst combination of arrogance and inferiority complex ever observed
        Seriously, what the fuck is their problem?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I know this is PrepHole but seriously, anon. This level of blatant ad hominem to derail the conversation about weapons rivals vatniks.
          Stop before embarassing yourselves further.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is my theory, that its not a koreaboo but a antikraut poster. Although koreans do tend to be the absolute worst combination of arrogance and inferiority complex ever observed, I see no reason for them to be this viruleny germanophobic considering their entire submarine force wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for extensive german support.

      fyi OP is actually a moron

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland wants 600 of them

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe I'm just easily impressed but it always amazes me just how BIG in size the K9 and PzH2000 are. They are really fucking big vehicles.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I do wonder what's next for german artillery. KMW and Rheinmetall appear to be betting on their artillery modules which can be mounted on various different platforms, rather than an improved dedicated howitzer. KMW has mounted theirs on ASCOD and Boxer, Rheinmetall theirs on an HX3 truck. Tracked Boxer and Lynx are probably suitable as well. Common platforms make sense of course, but there's probably some disadvantage.
    Of course the german government would need to get their heads out of their asses to allow the MIC to come into their full potential, which they probably won't. It's not really surprising that Korea with their much greater domestic orders and more willingness to export has an edge.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you fuckers so getting caught up about ROF like some fucking autistic WoT spastics? You'd think in a real war anyone gives a fuck if they can fire the daily logistics cap of shells over 10 or 15 minutes and then sit on their ass for 23.75 or 23.83 hours the rest of the day?

    Any decent NATO howitzer with MRSI capability and some burst fire capability for priority targets is good enough. Krabs are in Ukraine killing vatmorons, PzH2000 are in Ukraine killing vatmorons, UA has ordered tons of both. Y'all can spast around which is better, but the likely answer is "where can we get the best rebate". Which is a geopolitical and industrial question, not military.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is some value in shooting more rounds before you have to scoot. In mobile warfare against enemies with competent counter battery fire that could be very useful - in the kind of war russian and ukraine are having, less so. Lower rate of fire means you can't do MSRI as well, but you can emulate that by coordinating several artillery pieces, which ukraine does very well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, in edge cases you might use the extra shell of high vs medium capability. But with the firepower of NATO 155mm, I don't think there are practically any cases where you go "I'd wish I could assign more firepower to that firing mission".

        And you know if you bling out your howitzers for more RoF and the other guy just brings more howitzers it's a wash again.

        So i firmly believe "cheap and efficient" is the way to go and "what's the better howitzer" is a WoT question, while the real question is "how we can get 155mm platforms of acceptable quality the cheapest?" And the Gucci gun is objectively worse.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, I don't know. There's tons of tradeoffs to be considered there, and we don't know how hard achieving these high rates actually is.
          I suspect that in the future, large stocks of (good) ammunition will be more important than the gun itself. Western munitions are already far ahead of anything russian, but they mostly exist in insufficient numbers, even more so in ukraine. Meanwhile russia grinds forward with masses of cold war stock shells.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That one Pole that always shits in these threads has a very distinct style, you know it's him in this thread and not a Korean or some other Pole. It's literally just one dude blind with anger.

    t: not seething Pole

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, he posts in every thread slightly related to Germany.
      For example now he comes up again with the supposed reliability issues on the Pzh2000, like in his last seething thread here:

      [...]

      [...]

      No idea why he hates Germany so much lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. not seething Pole
      Have you ever visited Błyskawica

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ill never understand how shitposting evolved from objectively funny jabs into this embarassing post irony and layers deep falseflagging farce.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretending to be retarded has the same outcome and observable traits as being genuinely retarded.

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