Just wanted to get?

Just wanted to get /k/'s opinion on the Benelli M4. I only have your typical 9mm pistols and 2 AR15s, although one is a clone.

I don't own any shotguns but I figured I'd just get the one that I really want. Am I missing out on not buying a Mossberg 500 or a pump shotgun first?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you want a semi auto get an a300 instead
    but yeah your first shotgun should be a pump but not a *new* remington their qc is ass if your buying new go with mossberg
    stay away from turkshit too

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I was to get a pump, I want it with wood furniture and all. And I'm not buying turkshit, frick that.

      imo this is the shotgun in terms of comfort, although newer stuff exists, i cant speak on them in terms of comfort for price beyond the a300 ultima from beretta, was not as nice to shoot as my M4

      as for the M4 in your post if you want that to have a telescoping feature its gonna cost a you a bit extra, there are a few places online you can do it for a cheaper price total but the install work is yours to do.

      i opted to do the install work (telescoping stock, magazine extension) myself and i achieved both via gunbroker(mag extension) and midwest gun works (telescoping tube)

      it took a bit to properly fit everything, and patience(i encourage you to watch a video) but its definitely the only shotgun i would ever like to shoot

      The collapsible stock would be nice to have but all I really want is the tube extension.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I want it with wood furniture and all
        sex

        https://i.imgur.com/hfJJv03.jpg

        I think the M4 is neat

        also sex

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        some guy a few months back had hundreds of licensed +2 tubes for sale, around 100 bucks i think? cant remember, ez install but you will need to move a snap ring internally, again, watch a video

        also the telescoping thing is a totally cool upgrade i also recommend just for the convenience alone, but if all you want is 7+1 get after that imo

        still the king of shotguns

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://rxarms.com/product-category/benelli-m4-parts-and-accessories/
          he has a lot of accessories that are really well made and quality, also cheaper than some of the more typical places.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed with this anon, the bolt release tab they sell is good if you don't have the stuff to make your own.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            well and good if thats the route you want to take, for what its worth however, the general current theory about parts is if its not benelli your chance of failures increase

            see: tfb's burn down video

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is just for basic things, like the extended tube, mag extension, and the like, it isn't doing any direct change to any fundamental parts. although I will say his heatshield/rail thing is very cool, doesn't even replace the OEM fore-end.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for the recommendation, i might have to pick one up for myself!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                make sure to read the description carefully, there's some catches with the OEM rail.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/4b3L14S.jpg

            This is just for basic things, like the extended tube, mag extension, and the like, it isn't doing any direct change to any fundamental parts. although I will say his heatshield/rail thing is very cool, doesn't even replace the OEM fore-end.

            wow this thing is genius!
            https://rxarms.com/products/benelli-m4-parts-and-accessories/benelli-m4-qd-sling-mount-collapsible-stock/

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        590 retrograde

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      +1 on mossberg.
      930s are M4s for half the cost.
      Plethora of upgrade options, same gas system, same reliability, cheap as frick to repair, looks fantastic, it's mossberg QC as opposed to remingshit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        a 930 is not an M4 or M1014. Ive had a 930 and its fine, but doesnt touch benelli. Its literally the meme you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about.

        OP if you have the money get one. You will want to shop around for likely months and get the one with tube extension and 3 position stock. To try and make this yourself it will be in the 4k range depending on you firearm knowledge to install a trigger assembly. If you dont care about 922r you can do it for 3k.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Best friend has a M4 and while it's objectively the semi auto queen my 930 3 gun build does everything his M4 does but at half the cost.

          >muh pistol grip
          >Mesa tactical sells one for 930s
          >muh pasta power
          >Literally uses the same gas piston system and the Italians probably took that from mossberg bc the USMC ran mossys long before the M1014 came to be.

          You like the M4 I respect it, but im saying there's another solid option at half the price.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            i guess that's your opinion, but the facts are wrong.
            Benelli and Mossberg do not share a gas system design. The benelli has a lighter recoil because of the ARGOS system. Some minor details are the 930 needs a barrel and mag clamp where its standard on m1014/m4. My 930 came with a oem pistol grip. I'm not even a fan of benelli per se, i just buy the best where i can. If this conversation was between the beretta and benelli an argument could be made, but i would still go with beretta over the two.
            The m1014 was the first shotgun solely designed for mil/leo application. The 930 is a semi auto duck gun with a chopped barrel and polymer furniture.
            don't be mad bro, you're just wrong. its okay, you will win the next one champ! we're all rooting for you.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Both have dual piston gas systems
              >muh argos doe it's not same!
              You're projecting insecurities anon, I already said the M4 is the semi auto queen.

              The 930 is half the cost while sacrificing nothing aside from niche military uses such as smacking your barrel on a solid steel carrier doorway which I'd hope you're not THAT autistic anon.
              Captcha OKHYY

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              er, i meant still go with benelli.

              https://i.imgur.com/g07VVvD.jpg

              >Both have dual piston gas systems
              >muh argos doe it's not same!
              You're projecting insecurities anon, I already said the M4 is the semi auto queen.

              The 930 is half the cost while sacrificing nothing aside from niche military uses such as smacking your barrel on a solid steel carrier doorway which I'd hope you're not THAT autistic anon.
              Captcha OKHYY

              load up some low brass birdshot, 3" slugs, 00 buck, shorty's and some 0 buck in that 930, rapid fire and report back.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >your first shotgun should be a pump
      why

      https://i.imgur.com/zobulie.jpg

      Just wanted to get /k/'s opinion on the Benelli M4. I only have your typical 9mm pistols and 2 AR15s, although one is a clone.

      I don't own any shotguns but I figured I'd just get the one that I really want. Am I missing out on not buying a Mossberg 500 or a pump shotgun first?

      don't listen to that guy. I have a pump and I love it but having shot both, semi autos are just nicer to shoot

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    imo this is the shotgun in terms of comfort, although newer stuff exists, i cant speak on them in terms of comfort for price beyond the a300 ultima from beretta, was not as nice to shoot as my M4

    as for the M4 in your post if you want that to have a telescoping feature its gonna cost a you a bit extra, there are a few places online you can do it for a cheaper price total but the install work is yours to do.

    i opted to do the install work (telescoping stock, magazine extension) myself and i achieved both via gunbroker(mag extension) and midwest gun works (telescoping tube)

    it took a bit to properly fit everything, and patience(i encourage you to watch a video) but its definitely the only shotgun i would ever like to shoot

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just melting loctite red with a heat gun and feeding springs. Don't make it sound difficult. It's just expensive.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's nice, there's other options out there for semis though. If you want an M4 for being an M4 then go for it. I will say if you do buy one I'd get myself (or make myself if you've got the tooling available to you) one of those bolt release tabs. The bolt release is fricking tiny and it's a pain in the ass to use. They shoot real nice though, pretty soft for a shotgun.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're missing out on not having a pump, as they're fun. But it's not necessary to have one before the other.

    Also, while the a300 is dope, if you want the M4, get the M4. Just accept that your subconscious knows what you want and trust it. If you don't get a M4 you'll buy various things, never satisfy that want, and then end up buying the M4 anyways.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just accept that your subconscious knows what you want and trust it. If you don't get a M4 you'll buy various things, never satisfy that want, and then end up buying the M4 anyways.
      Or learn discipline, detachment, and to stop being a consoomer

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the M4 is neat

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are some good shotgun shell cards/placards for the M4 that I can also throw into my AR mag pouches?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        esstac is king
        specifically 7 rounders

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are you just supposed to stick Velcro tape to you shotgun to attach the cards, or is there a better way?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's Mesa Tactical which makes a replacement picatinny rail that has a shell carrier integrated on it. Sorta expensive but it's already an expensive shotgun.

            https://mesatactical.com/sureshell-carrier-and-rail-for-ben-m4-12-ga/

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              get with the times grandpa hard side saddles are so 1991

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            they come with a loop strip of velcro that you slap on the receiver
            this way is best i dont see how it could be any better
            like another anon said watch tfbs how to setup your shotgun vid to see them used

            stick em in a chest rig or have a fanny pack full of stocked cards

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Alright I’m sold. I’ll get some Velcro tape for my shotty. Esstac is a good company and I’ve bought some stuff from them before too

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                it comes with the velcro tape when you order it, or you can add-on as $1.5

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're ok.
    The stock charging handle is tiny and it comes with the limiter. You can expect to pay 600 bucks to the gaygiest fudds in the country if you want it to be 922r compliant too.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should clarify. I bought an entire trigger group replacement and printed my own forends. I ordered the 7 round tube through freedomfighter tactical. That fat homosexual called the ATF on me because I didn't buy his whole part kit to try and get me on intent to assemble charges.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I ordered the 7 round tube through freedomfighter tactical. That fat homosexual called the ATF on me because I didn't buy his whole part kit to try and get me on intent to assemble charges.
        922r applies to the general public too? Also I thought it was explicitly for rifles.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I dont think anyone has ever been convicted of 922r, public or otherwise.

          I should clarify. I bought an entire trigger group replacement and printed my own forends. I ordered the 7 round tube through freedomfighter tactical. That fat homosexual called the ATF on me because I didn't buy his whole part kit to try and get me on intent to assemble charges.

          Dude sounds super gay. Im suprised i havent heard more people b***h about him if he really calls the atf on people.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        did he really? WTF

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      M4h2o was my first shotgun, later on got an O/U for clays and such. Never really yearn for a pump.

      922r, "made in USA" stamped followers, "color may not be exact match," fricking freedom fighter tactical homosexualry, high-power 7-shot spring sold separately, a month of budgeting around a buttstock, signature verified shipping is the only option.
      Yeah getting Benelli's properly configured is a grueling questline. When completed its the best in class though.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah getting Benelli's properly configured is a grueling questline
        How do you do that thodwjrj

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >How do you do that tho
          Well it depends on what serial model you start with. The "real m4" should have a pistol grip with collapsing stock. Mine came with the one piece pistol grip stock. But at least it had the proper buffer tube. Some of the tubes don't have notches for the stock to collapse. Real m4's have a 7+2 capacity. Replacing the limiter with an extension is ok. I went with full new tube. Its not a big deal but the extension makes takedown more complicated. Taking the old tube off requires heat. Benelli uses a lot of thread locker and you don't wanna take a torch to an aluminum receiver. It took 20 minutes with a heat gun and a vise, that's the "hardest" part of the process. Theres a dozen or so other little things, and every part is out of stock despite being expensive.
          Certain models like

          https://i.imgur.com/5wBp7dj.jpg

          Get an LE version off gunbroker, same price as the original neutered one and it comes modified

          need less work. Newer mounting options for lights, slings, or optics are around but by no means mandatory.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hearsay
    My LGS owner is a marine who served in the past 10 years and he said he doesn't like it. Says they're "nice, but not [x dollars] nice." Wouldn't give me any specific reason, I assume someone got hurt or killed because of a malfunction. Said if I was looking for something reliable for a combat shotgun, go with a 1301.
    >/hearsay

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      he probably shot something that was Just As Good and decided that it really was just as good so it wasn't worth spending the big bucks for something that isn't even better just because the military or LE use it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        2k for a tactical shotgun is still quite a lot and that doesn't even include the cool stock.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get an LE version off gunbroker, same price as the original neutered one and it comes modified

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why GB specifically?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because they are restricted for mil/leo do to import rules. US sold are 5 round, collapsible stock is only full moron or collapsed. It takes about 1500 or more to make 922r compliant version.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can get other good semi autos for cheaper. look into the FN SLP.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but none of them drip like the M4

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i love my 1301. i think the M4 is more robust and certainly has softer recoil but its also several pounds heavier. the a300 is also about a pound heavier than the 1301 btw.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >several pounds
      homie it's only 1lb heavier.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        One and a half, from the factory. But it makes a big difference. The Benelli feels a lot heavier to me, subjectively. Probably has a different center of balance

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes the balance is off with M4, it's very front heavy despite being just 18.5in barrels. My 30inch clay guns feel more balanced than this.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is an ok weapon, sometimes finnicky but ok. I injured some taliban fighters with it who thought hiding in a field meant i wouldn't just hose it with buckshot

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't own any shotguns but I figured I'd just get the one that I really want
    just get the fricking one you want

    Look at the 1301 if you don't want a collapsible stock.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a gigantic froccio for italian guns. I own an M4, a 1301, an old SPAS-12, an old 1201FP, and an even older 121 M1. Im on my phone on a business trip so don’t have my shotgun pictures. As far as high-end combat shotguns go, I prefer my M4 to the 1301. The 1301 is lighter and faster… but its recoil is sharper and I’m 6’4” 225lbs, the M4 has an adjustable stock and the gun just plain fits me better. Combine that with the lighter recoil and I feel like I just can’t miss with it. The only time I could see the cycle speed being a thing is if you’re doing 3 gun or something. If you’re going to have it as a home defense gun, you can’t go wrong with any tactical Italian shotgun, honestly. The New Beretta A300 Patrol is supposed to be pretty great. Even their pumps are superb, Benelli Nova, Benelli Super Nova, FABARM STF-12, Franchi PA-7, even old Beretta RS200s or Valtro PM5s are surprisingly good.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy is singlehandedly propping up the Italian small arms industry

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      god I wish I bought a PMX before my state AWB came into effect

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well you can always fix that.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2 AR15s, although one is a clone
    what the frick does this mean

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Am I missing out on not buying a Mossberg 500 or a pump shotgun first?
    No, but I would highly recommend you get a Beretta 1301 over a Benelli M4. I've handled and shot both, and while they're both good, I think the M4 is too heavy considering the 1301 is two whole pounds lighter. I don't think the extra weight can be justified.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ever since left 4 dead came out i've wanted one. god it felt so nice unloading the whole magazine into a tank that you lit with a molotov.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Merry Christmas

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >one is a clone.
    They're all clones.
    Colt uses the armalite blueprints.
    The company named "armalite" of today is not the Armalite tthat created the AR15.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what you're looking for. If you're hunting steel, paper, and baddies then go ahead and get what is considered the best for it.
    If you're looking to bust clays, gather game, and shoot baddies then get 500 with three barrels and wood dowel. Personally I prefer the versatility of a 500 or 870 since I recognize I'm not going be using a shotgun if shit goes sideways.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my opinion this is the Semi Auto shotgun aka the GOAT.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never handled an M4 before, but the Supernova Tactical is the softest shooting, best-handling pump gun there is. T. Winchester, Remington, Mossberg, Franchi and Benelli owner.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Top Shotguns that exist in the world right now are:
    M4 = LTT 1301 > Mossberg 940 > A300

    If you want the M4, the LTT 1301 comes with all the modern features at a lower price, however it doesn't have the history, legacy or popular appeal that the M4 does. If you do decide to get the M4, be prepared to spend another $1000 on upgrades like shell capacity, Mlok forend and tactical stock, shown in your picture.

    I went with the LTT 1301 and I think it's the best in the world, some would disagree, but those people are moronic.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My only criticism of the M4 is that it has no real aftermarket. Nobody makes stocks for them, the few handguards are all bulky and goofy, barrel options are nonexistent, and attaching a light is limited to awkward barrel/magazine clamps or buying one of the chunky lame handguards for an mlok attachment.
    The light attachment is a pain as it’s kind of a deal breaker on an otherwise ideal defense shotgun.

    Aside from that it basically chews through buckshot and full power loads with no problem, though birdshot and target loads may not always cycle.

    The 1301 is probably a more versatile and better all around choice, but the M4 is still “the” combat shotgun.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only you know what you'll like. Shotguns are an extremely versatile gun capable of fulfilling multiple roles.
    Semis will always be superior to pumps, regardless of the purpose of the gun.
    That being said, pump guns are very fun. Working the pump is just plain satisfying. I've only shot an 870 wingmaster and a mossberg 500 and the wingmaster feels like a high quality gun and quite frankly, the mossberg felt cheap. I'm sure new 870s suck too, but the base action is better.
    You'll probably end up enjoying the shotgun more than you think so get what you want and what you think will work best for you. Might want to look into a long barrel for skeet too. I'm hearing great things about the beretta shotguns these days but you can't go wrong with either.

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