>"just use jammers and aps latter of which even the US army is struggling to acquire"

>"just use jammers and aps latter of which even the US Army is struggling to acquire"
>"They didn't have air superiority"
>"User problem"
>"Terrain was not suitable"
>"Doctrinal problem"
>"Tactical problem"
>"We still need tanks to take out tanks"
>"Maybe cheaper solutions like M10 booker or ziggermaxxed T-62 will solve the problem"
You aré here!
>"The doctrine demands it"
>"Sunk cost fallacy"

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody knows what the frick you are talking about, dude.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The point is we need to retvrn to battleship

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Normalgays think the entire US battle fleet got sunk at Pearl Harbor and doesn't know that most of it went on to rack up hundreds of air kills after being repaired.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unlike turdie shitholes, the US has a focused and disciplined (read: effective) EWAR strategy. that's why we don't have thousands of videos of drones blowing up US soldiers.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The obvious solution to the tank problem is turning them into giant flak towers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just add a 30mm RWS with proxy rounds and a small sensor set
      doesn't even have to be some heavy, high velocity autocannon since the targets are slow and the FCS does the aiming

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Return to the 3 to 1 idea; MBT's to Fire-Support Tank
      >Deck out this fire support tank with an autocannon that can fire prox-fuze shit, slap some radars on it
      >Reverse the ratio when fighting in Urban areas
      >Drones become a non-issue
      >For good measure install a working APS on the tanks
      Time to make these defense contractors work for their money and shoot whomever is found to be embezzling to much money and send their families to a forced labor camp in Alaska. The time of useless grifts is over, these fricking homosexuals better deliver all of that shit we envisioned in the 00's already and with no delay.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battleships did fine against aircraft. Only like 4 ever got sunk by planes while actually underway, and each time they got swarmed by massive multi-hundred plane flights. After Pearl Harbor the US battle fleet never got touched by planes.

    Battleships just couldn't justify their cost when aircraft carriers and missile cruisers could have the same effect on the enemy for much cheaper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Only like 4 ever got sunk by planes while actually underway
      How many got sunk by other surface vessels while actually underway? It's probably fewer than you think.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In World War 2 around 6 I think

        I believe Bretagne was underway, Hood, Bismarck, Kirishima, Scharnhorst, Yamashiro
        Am I missing any?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuso.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Bretagne
          Sunk at port by perfidious Albion
          >Hood
          >Kirishima
          >Battleships
          lol
          So you found 3. Nice job.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >After Pearl Harbor the US battle fleet never got touched by planes
      SoDak had 7 of 9 main guns available a Guadalcanal because of an aircraft bomb.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After identifying the points for the breach, the offensive started early in the morning of 4 June. Two UR-77 Meteorit charges were fired across the narrowest part of the minefield, blowing two 6-metre-wide channels from the treeline to the north to the edge of Novodarivka. A company column of MRAPs led by a pair of tanks committed to the first breach. “A pair of Russian tanks unmasked and fired on the columns. The Ukrainian tanks fired back at a range of around 800 metres. Nevertheless, the vehicles in the column were knocked out in succession”

    A second company was then committed to the other breach lane and two more Russian tanks emerged, moved towards the column and firing. “Via UAV feeds, the command post watched the emergence of the enemy, and fires were brought down to try and disrupt the action. Exposed, the breaching company attempted to accelerate through the breach, but deviated from course. All vehicles in the company were then immobilised by mine strike in succession. Russian fires then began to range on the column.”

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's so crazy to me that we spent months training the Ukrainian's rank and file infantry but the Battalion and Brigade Staff's often told us to basically go frick our selves and 'we'll win our way' when we tried to teach them our doctrine.

      >haha let's try to breach with no near side security, effective area suppression, or obscuration because it interferes with our BDE commander's ability to command the company via drone.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its more interesting than that, you can read the entire AAR here
        https://www.reddit.com/r/CredibleDefense/comments/1d6drop/ukrainian_brigades_practice_of_companysized/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why don’t we have drone footage of this? All you ever see is Russian forces getting btfo’d.
      Sounds fake

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the town itself was eventually invested with infantry, the example is from a post examining why breaching operations do and dont work, and how they differ and dont differ from US doctrine.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battleships were the most heavily protected ships afloat, nonetheless sixteen were sunk or crippled by bombs or torpedoes delivered by aircraft, while three more were sunk by submarine-launched torpedoes. Guided bombs developed during the war made it much easier for aircraft to sink battleships. By the end of the war, battleship construction was all but halted, and almost every existing battleship was retired or scrapped within a few years of its end.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    guiri

    PUMPUM ak47

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're moronic. Equipment falls into obsolescence when its job can be performed better by something else or isn't needed anymore, not when it's vulnerable. Otherwise tanks would have stopped existing in the early-mid Cold War.
    While direct fire support and armor sufficient against heavy ATGMs is still necessary, battleships are obsolete because aircraft can deliver the same payload a further distance and the meta of modern naval weapons (SAMs and ASMs) favors distributed rather than centralized firepower.

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