Just calculated it and I realized I can load 44 magnum for significantly cheaper than .223, which has convinced me I need a 44 levergun.

Just calculated it and I realized I can load 44 magnum for significantly cheaper than .223, which has convinced me I need a 44 levergun. Is Henry the way to go for a practical type of gun to carry around innnawoods and shoot deer/hogs with?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wait till you discover the 32-20

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but 32-20 is harder to load than 44.

      But it's awesome to load for. Loaded more of it than any other bottleneck cartridge.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ive had the levergat itch for a while, after my researching I’ve concluded that the henry with the sidegate is indeed the way to go concerning new production guns.

    If you can find a cute jm stamped marlin for a good price, it might be worth it though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're not gonna go wrong with a Henry.

      As per

      >sidegate
      This is a critical feature, no matter which model you go with. Don't compromise on this.

      Other consideration: .44 mag isn't buying you much over a .357 mag/.38 Spl. Not in real world practical terms. Look into it. One of the primary reasons to have a lever gun in a pistol caliber is so that you have a sidearm that takes the same cartridges. Consider which sidearm you would rather carry and that will decide which rifle caliber you'll want to settle on. I got rid of my .44s because I developed an intense dislike for firing a .44 mag handgun.

      Since cost seems to be an issue with you, consider that .357/.38 has more options than a .44 and is even more cost effective. And, since you are handloading, you can make a lot of decisions and dial in the precise cartridge your weapons will perform optimally with.

      I've always been fond of .41 mag, BTW. I wouldn't recommend it as the primary caliber for a rifle/sidearm set, especially if cost is your concern. But, it's a cartridge that performs beautifully out of a long barreled revolver (5" or 6"), and is a performance tack-driver out of a lever gun. It's worth a look at, but more to consider as a luxurious extra with some bragging rights later on.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        44 Magnum is a substantial boost over 357 Magnum.
        Here is a lightweight 200gr 44 magnum bullet, you can load it to 2100fps in a 20 inch barrel.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Here is a 180gr 357 bullet.
          You can throw it at 1400fps from a 20 inch barrel.
          You do the math, but the 44 mag is chucking out 1900ft/lbs while the 357 is just 800ft/lbs.

          Tell me again there's not a substantial performance increase.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >reading comprehension FAIL
            It just becomes so tiresome.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              There are real world shots that I would take with a 44 mag and not a 357.
              Because of the relatively small diameter, I wouldn't hunt with WNFP Cast bullets like I would with 44 magnum.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not the guy you responded to but i don't know why you would use a 180gr bullet in a 357 mag when 125 and 158 are far more common weights for this caliber and give you the velocities you would expect from a straight wall cartridge fired out of a rifle
            >but 44 mag is like twice the energy!
            Correct

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Lil' Gun does better with heavier bullets than H110 in .357. Not recommended for revolvers, because there is some concern with forcing cone erosion. Buffalo Bore sells a 180 gr load advertised at 1850 fps out of an 18.5" barrel that, based on a youtube video that I've seen, uses Lil' Gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imcKcKxI6DU

            That's 1350 ft-lbs, obviously not as powerful as .44, but more than enough for hunting. Also, look at the load data for H110 for 125 gr. You can send those screaming out at almost 2300 fps for >1400 ft-lbs of energy. 357 works best with lighter bullets, at least with any common magnum powder.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    44 mag is a pretty shit round for long barrels, go check the ballistics if you don't believe me

    But... don't let that discourage you if you think it's fun

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Since OP is loading his own, couldn't he use a slower powder to get the most of the longer barrel?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        H110 under a 240-300gr bullet is great from a 20 inch carbine, that other guy is a dipshit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Commercial ammo for 44mag doesn't gain any velocity past 8 inches

        It could be possible to use a slower burning powder in a longer barrel to get better performance. It would have to be SLOWER than h110 as that is a typical magnum pistol powder. But you guys are all fricking moronic troglodytes so I doubt anyone here even has used a chronograph before.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he says wearing his moronic opinions on his sleave
      Within 100 yards I'd have no problem using it over several other levergun cartridges.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >44 mag is a pretty shit round for long barrels
      Maybe the dumbest shit I have ever heard, when lever guns are designed for straight-wall cartridges shooting out to maybe 150 yards.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you handload, an 1892 is the way to go.
    Strongest levergun carbine and light to boot.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i like the uberti 1873 ones

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can I load .30-30 to be absolutely pissin hawt and get a Black person rigged .308?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      40,000psi is all you have and LeveRevolution is the best powder for the cartridge. Never seen someone decide they needed more, but if you try, document the data and results.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i load mine with .308 bullets for hunting. can only shoot one at a time tho

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can't recommend the Henry because I don't own one, but I can totally recommend a .44 levergun because I have. It will slap the living mortal shit out of anything up to 100 yards, and prolly slap deer safely at 150. After that your trajectory resembles a thrown rock.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >and prolly slap deer safely at 150
      Can confirm, I slapped a deer with a 357 Rossi levergun at ~75-100, presumably a 44 would really slap.

      My brother has a Browning 44 levergun that I covet. He also has a 444 marlin that REALLY fricking slaps.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t speak on their 44s but I really like my big boy 357 even without a loading gate. Smooth as butter action and light enough recoil for even a child to plink with.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    10+1 capacity, do it

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That or .45-70

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I live in PA woodlands so 44 mag is a viable medium game round. I hunt in a forest with brush and limited visibility over about 75 yards or so. I use 44 magnum after using just a 30-30 for deer over 15 years. It is economical, not particularly destructive to meat and pretty fun to shoot.

    Initially I wanted to go with another levergun. I prefer older Marlins. I then started to realize that although I want and did buy a 44 mag levergun, I may not actually prefer it for hunting. Add a mag tube full of ammo and possibly optics and you have a pretty heavy and unwieldy package. 8+ pounds, short sight radius, muzzle heavy and range limiting unless you are shooting from a rest or support. In addition, many leverguns are designed for cowboy loads and struggle with heavier bullets in regards to twist rate and feeding.

    I ended up going with the Ruger 77/44 stainless synthetic. It is 5.2 pounds, way lighter and less muzzle heavy. It has no problems with 240-310 grain bullets. The rifle will shoot out to 100 yards fairly flat and then drop about 6" at 150 before it falls off. Twist rate is 1:20 which is ideal for hunting in my opinion. I load hard cast WFN bullets with a max charge of H110. This kills the deer. The brass lasts a very long time with limited stretching or wear. You don't need the bullets to expand, they come pre expanded when they get to the deer.

    If you are set on a lever gun, try it. Spot and stalk is different from hunting from a blind. I prefer that short, compact barrel on the Ruger. I put a rear peep on it and it shoots great. I also have a 1.5X fixed scope that I prefer for brush. I used to carry big heavy guns into the woods and I am much happier with handier guns in my part of the woods. For a plinker, I prefer the lever gun though.

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