Joint US-Ukraine weapons production

I've heard we've started to produce weapons inside Ukraine itself jointly with them, so that we can bypass the impasse. We're boosting the Ukrainian military-industrial complex itself.

Have any new weapons come about from this?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing publicly known. The Ukrainians had a capable arms industry before the invasion, though, with some home-made designs that have proven to be highly effective in the war (BTR-4, stugna, etc). I would be surprised if American companies aren't taking the chance to work with them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >. The Ukrainians had a capable arms industry before the invasion, though, with some home-made designs that have proven to be highly effective in the war
      mostly in the now messed up east
      and even then, very few firms managed to get their shit off the ground to produce anything-- a lot of it was the Russian process of "refurbishing this old tank hull for sale in the third world" kinda stuff
      Fort is like the only native Ukrainian arms manufacturer that's actually managed to properly scale up and maintain production during the war;

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have only heard of Rheinmetall doing this so far. F-16 mass production in Ukraine would be nice though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Joint US-Ukraine weapons production
      No, nothing official. The USA has given Ukraine a absolute shit ton of money. The USA also said it was working with Ukraine to design short range drones, similar to Switchblade 300, but easier and cost effective to make.
      The USA also has some engineers designing the Frankenstein air defense systems using US missiles and USSR/ Ukrainian AA launchers.

      It takes a decade to have a high performing F-16 fleet of aircraft due to maintenance and pilot training. It takes longer to scale it up to larger numbers of jets.
      No way could Ukraine start building F-16 during a war.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's also this https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/08/23/swedish-government-eyes-combat-vehicle-production-in-ukraine/
      But F-16's would be a massive stretch. Getting Antonov to shit our cargo planes would be nice, but that company was owned by a pro-zigger oligarch that's been arrested afaik.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imo the risk that the factory gets bombed is too high

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Has Russia even targeted factories past the initial invasion? I feel like its been a long time since we've heard anything about MIC-related factories being targeted

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They do, but if you account for the accuracy issues, shootdowns, outdated targets, duds, unrelated targets and so on, Russia absolutely does not have the amount of missiles required to shut down Ukrainian production. That being said they can cause consistent issues because some missiles do eventually hit factories or the supply chain.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To busy hitting the Boris Johnson
        In all seriousness I remember them hitting a few airports, Yuzhmash, and a grain silo in Odessa.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most of the Ukraine military industry was either on the part of Ukraine now occupied or where the frontline is right now. That's the problem ignorant people don't take into account regarding things like this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          One of the main reasons for the lack of steel cases ammo on the market was Ukraine’s factory getting kaboomed in in the prior conflict.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hence the importance of rebuilding the Ukrainian MIC with outside help.

          Also can someone make a TZD flag already?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're forgetting something. Ukraine has used micro-workshops to build enormous amounts of drones. They can apply the same principles to other weapons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Micro workshops use cheap parts made in china or are 3d printed en masse. There’s a difference between a cottage industry for assembled drones and mass production assembly lines of military hardware.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The opportunity here though is obvious: to revolutionize the entire military hardware industry via cutting edge modern technology.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That works for drones which are easy to produce with a low industrial capacity

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        any moron can build drones in a garage

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        3 pajeets with exactly the same put-down. Not a good look, guys. I'll be talking to your Supervisor about this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have only ever heard about possible Bradley production in Ukraine but no clue if that went anywhere

      rheinmetall is already supposedly building a factory in Ukraine
      and if I had to guess it will probably be underground using some old soviet facility

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There’s evidence there are major strides forward happening in Ukraine’s MIC, but probably not as massive as they’re claiming. There IS some joint-effort production going on or planned — I read a shell manufacturing joint project that is going to take 2-3 years to set up…which is sort of strange it would take so long as if it were a peacetime project. They’re also starting to take corruption seriously, I think before it was just “don’t be too greedy or the SBU will get you” but increasingly since the big scandals of last year they’re getting more aggressive with setting up anti-corruption systems. They cited the need to improve confidence with foreign partners in order to bring in more investments and support which is a very correct standpoint. They simply can’t act like it was 2014 and rob everything in site, they’re literally fighting for their own independence against a country VASTLY larger and more industrially capable, they simply don’t have the luxury of pocketing cash at every opportunity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Was a video posted here of Ukrainians using new turk machines to make 122mm shells. That mentioned a new 155mm shell factory outside of Ukraine being built.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Corruption is a luxury of the safe. Those in danger of annihilation cut that shit out.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Have any new weapons come about from this?
    so far: aircraft, loitering munitions, and ammunition

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