I've never understood why people always talk negatively about the Saudi army, and I'm not saying it's the strongest army on the planet, but it's not as weak as people make it out to be; they call it a "paper tiger," but the true "paper tigers" are the overrated armies of the great powers
According to some sources rhey basically dont maintain their equipment at all
I do not think that these sources are saying the truth
I don't really think of the Saudis at all, except that they funded 9/11
It's not a concern; we don't think about the Western nations either, but they always spread terrorism in Arabic countries to undermine security stability.
So why did you make a thread asking for the opinion of Westerners?
I think he anticipated other seething turd worlders massaging his ego. Little did he know literally nobody likes the saudis and their “core competency” of exporting terrorism and violent young men through the madrassa system.
>westerners spread terrorism in Arabic countries to undermine security stability
You mean the same westerners that have helped Saudis suppress grass roots yemeni rebels for decades?
Nice of them, allies helping american president with a strategic project
But who did they fund it for?
>The DCI spoke with some conviction about having a stand-alone, off-shore, self-financing entity that would operate independently of Congress and its appropriations. It would operate in real secrecy, either alone or jointly with other friendly intelligence services. Apparently he had in mind the Saudis and Israelis. Plausible deniability would be reestablished. In the best tradition of capitalism, this would be a revenue producer, "a full-service covert operation," Casey called it. Not just the ransoming or rescue of hostages; not just counterterrorism but other operations; North had given code names to some proposals, TH-1, TH-2, TH-3. From their experience, Casey and North knew they had to have the ability to instantly move into action. As Casey said, "You want something you can pull off the shelf and use on a moment's notice."
This appears to have in fact predated William Caseys tenure at the CIA and the Reagan administration in the form of the "Safari Club": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club
The Safari Club, the Contra operation, and the attempted assassination of Sheik Hussein Fadlallah were all funded by Saudi money or at least they were among the contributors like the Contras
But all were at the direction of and originated with who? Americas intelligence community.
Saudis have all the money and toys in the world, yet the performance of their military adventures has been pathetic. They should have steamrolled Yemen or deal with Iraq by themselves, yet here we are.
"Why Arabs Lose Wars" is still as valid today as it was when it was published, and Saudis are the most corrupt and nepotistic of all of them.
They disarmed the houthis from WMD's a long ago, and this article is bullshit
>this article is bullshit
It really isn't. If you spent any time in the country you would know that.
Thread made by a seething saud. have a nice day, even other Muslims hate your kind
A few houthi long range missiles aren't "WMDs", and Saudi Arabia and the rest of the arab gulf states are extremely corrupt and degenerate. The fact than even Moroccans, Egyptians or Argelians are able to do much more with much less speaks volumes.
>GDP of the Republic of Yemen
21.6 billion USD (2018), most of which the Houthis did not control
>GDP of Saudi Arabia
816.6 billion USD (2018)
>Military budget of the Republic of Yemen
1.4 billion USD (2019), again the effective military budget of the Houthis would've been only a fraction of this
>Military budget of Saudi Arabia
65.36 billion USD (2019)
>Duration of the Yemeni Civil War: 8 years, 7 months, 1 week, 6 days and counting
Bro, that's pathetic.
Their army doesn't work because it doesn't function like an actual army because of the social dynamics of their culture. Command positions are dependent on tribe or family instead of actual competency.
When it comes to countries who amass most of their wealth from oil and gas revenue, strength on paper seldom = strength in reality.
>When it comes to countries who amass most of their wealth from oil and gas revenue, strength on paper seldom = strength in reality.
This. Money causes complacency.
>Money causes complacency
Yeah, in fact that was a big cause of the fall of Rome or the Spanish Empire.
Their elites became so good at extracting wealth while doing nothing that they weakened or destroyed all the other parts of the society that allowed it to be sucessful.
It's like everything. It all boils down to game theory. If you don't need to expend energy on something then you naturally wont. If they have the wealth and don't feel in danger from anything then they won't bother to put the effort in to fix problems.
Arabs are bad at strategic warfare, always have, always will
Main problem is that you don't have really have one army, you have ~6-8 rival gangs. And that's before you get to internal security.
>wikipedia: They include: the Armed Forces of Saudi Arabia (under the Ministry of Defense), the Saudi Arabian National Guard (under the Ministry of National Guard), the Saudi Arabian Border Guard (under the Ministry of Interior), the Saudi Arabian Royal Guard (under the Presidency of the Royal Guard), the Special Operations Forces (under the Presidency of State Security), and the Special Security Unit (affiliated with the General Intelligence Presidency).
The country is much too small to afford this kind of redundancy, division and infighting, and more money only bloats the problem.
Since Saudi Arabia is so obscenely wealthy, can't they just hire mercenaries to do their dirty work for them?
There is not a single good mercenary company out there. And if you just hire random foreigners into your shit army... you get a bigger shit army
This is how retards think
Pro tip: this is what they tried in Yemen and it’s a big part of why that was such a shitshow for them.
They do. They are fully reliant of hiring ex Western military personnel to "train" there forces. In reality the trainers do all the work maintaining their equipment while some officer who got his job solely because he's a member of the royal family takes the credit.
If Saudi Arabia is so such a huge welfare state, why would ANYONE join the military at all as a grunt soldier?
They still have castes and poor families that need to play soldier to get gibs.
You also have the loser 2nd born son that can't inherit dads business.
Saudi Arabia isn't as wealthy as it used to be, why do you think they've been trying to pivot their economy for the past decade or so? If oil prices were the drop sharply again like it did a decade ago, Saudi Arabia would be in huge trouble.
Modern middle eastern armies have been shown to suffer greatly from poor communication, weak cohesion, and corruption.
The Saudi Army is basically the Russian Army with better funding and Western equipment
>lack of social mobility for enlisted men
>substitute actual training with pointless machismo bullshit
If we took all of Saudi Arabia's toys away and gave them to Ukraine, Zelensky would be the one holding a victory parade in Moscow and not Putin.
They have the appearance of a modern army
>Modern equipment i.e. weapons, optics, body armor, radios
>Modern tanks, M1's from the U.S., maybe some missile systems from the U.S. too
They can have all of this equipment with a million dollar price tag, but they mean nothing if the soldiers don't know how to use them together in combined arms
They are literally on the Pay-To-Win mindset
And when's the last time you saw a Saudi military exercise?
How often do the drill?
How often do they drill infantry/mech. infantry with tanks and air systems all at once?
ok see they hit it on the head for me
They just got humiliated by Yemeni tribesmen.
because we basically hear the same thing from every NATO army that has done officer exchanges or multi-national training with the Saudi’s.
the Saudis are consistently described as
>absolutely zero empathy for subordinates
>all of these things lead them to behave in ways that can’t be described as anything other than completely retarded
same thing for the rest of the Arab countries. they’re all just bedouin cultures with more money than they know what to do with.