ITT We predict how long until Russians are pushed back out of Soledar.

ITT We predict how long until Russians are pushed back out of Soledar. Later when it happens we can look at the thread and see the winner.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I was Ukraine I wouldn't be trying to take it back.
    Before they had defenders advantage that forced Russia to throw a shitload of men and gear at it, now they would need to do the same.
    Instead attack somewhere else that Russia has moved forces away from.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Just wait for Russia to eventually over extend like they always do when they gain ground and then strike when they're stretched too thin. It worked in Kharkiv and Kherson, whose to say they won't end up doing it a third time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia has double the number of troops in Ukraine

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Does this mean they will start advancing soon?
          Captcha: GHAAY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Obviously being an armchair general here but pressure from Ukraine in previous counteroffensives have drawn Russian troops away before haven't they? Ukraine needs some new major pushes ASAP. At the same time, NATO needs to get the finger out and up the materiel and quality they're sending over. Some Bradleys are a good start, but proper MBTs and longer range missiles for HIMARS are needed as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. So far they've had more success doing planned, compound offenses with well executed preparations. Leave meat wave attacks for heroic propaganda villages to Russians.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eh, they seem committed enough to eventually take it, and ukies don't really care to hold it beyond "well russkies decided to die here so who am I to stop them"
    So they gonna be pushed out only in spring I guess.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Frontline will stabilize on Soledar but not before a very costly battle for both sides now that Ukies got more tanks.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it'll be silently abandoned after a front pushing from kremmina towards the Russian border which will probably be autumn 2023

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Late October during the Ukies pre-winter offensive. Next spring will be the peace negotiations with the Russians giving up the rest of their miniscule gains. They keep the Crimea and pay no war reparations

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why on earth would Ukraine ever sign that peace deal lmao? vatmorons can go home when they leave ALL Ukrainian territory

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They keep Crimea
      Yeah no.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Ukraine won't take that deal until public support is gone or they are losing a lot of ground.
      Thanks to Russia's genius move of taking kids and executing civilians I can't see public support ending any time soon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian hands typed this post. This is their best case scenario they can think of

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, filthy defeatist pig. Russia will advance all the way to Kiev and conquer all of Ukraine within a mere two weeks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pay no war reparations
      All those billions in frozen/seized assets? Going to Ukraine at the end of this. Russia doesn't even have a say.
      And keeping Crimea is both unlikely and even detrimental to Russia because good luck keeping it supplied.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In retrospect Russians were fucking retards to not take that March offer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the ukranians refused actually because the Americans said so

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yet you can't produce a single piece of evidence for this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia gives back all the kidnapped civilians or they lose everything and access to the Azov

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2 weeks - not even kidding btw.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Soledar liberated
    June 2023
    Hey future me!
    I hope you finally lost your virginity after 42 years!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      42 year from now is a long way from now anon

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    downie thread for truly stupid people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most Ukraine threads are.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT We COPE how long until Russians are pushed back out of Soledar. Later when it happens we can SEETH at the thread and see the winner.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Attempting to re-take it would be a waste of resources. Instead, Ukraine will probably focus on destroying supply lines and ammunition depots, then attacking somewhere else where the Russians are not as well-prepared.

    I also think that Ukraine should blow up the Crimean bridge again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's guaranteed the Bakhmut front will be the new Kherson for the Russians, so they'll have too many forces there. Pushing them elsewhere will have better results.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine will probably focus on destroying supply lines and ammunition depots, then attacking somewhere else where the Russians are not as well-prepared.
      This. For example when Azov still had Mariupol they did lots of raiding and guerilla style hit & run attacks against Russian supply lines trough wast tunnel networks around Mariupol. They literally stopped the whole Russian war machine and won the war in the longrun.
      Glory to heroes
      Glory Ukraine
      Glory to Azov

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia spends months grinding out some pyrrhic victory
    >Ukraine makes some massive offense and reclaims sweeping areas of land
    >Russia spends the next few months grinding out another pyrrhic victory
    >Ukraine makes another massive offense and reclaims more land

    this war is gay and boring they just keep repeating the script

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, who writes this shit?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Vladimir vs Volodymyr
        That's just lazy writing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Season 1 was better, the writers did a good job of making it believable that Russia might win, more tension.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mid march it will be abadoooned after it get threatened by an encirclement 20km when the ukies make a new wave of thunderruns.

    Russia will announce that it achieved its goal of evacuation of its citizens. And that the Bradly drive by were in fact very inefficient.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would it not make more sense to drive the Russians into the sea at Mariupol, thus cutting off their forces to the south, and forcing them to fight with their only source for supplies from Crimea (which could then be cut off by blowing up Crimea's bridges)?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it opens a massive front vulnerable on both sides. There's no more easy wins, unless RU goes on the offensive, which they're incapable of. Any major UA offense will be extremely costly, there's no way out of that. And I don't think Zelensky wants to risk UA public morale by suffering a bad defeat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's what they said before the kherson collapse

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then cut off their supplies first, and let them starve in cold trenches until April. Then attack them with western tanks and cluster munitions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then what's the way forward in your opinion? Attrition of Vatniks from artillery barrages, drones and standoff missiles?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they bought most of the reserves along the southern axis near melitopol up to bakhmut. the ukrianians really dont want slovyansk and kramatorsk taken because it will break open the entire kharkiv front again

      also what

      Because it opens a massive front vulnerable on both sides. There's no more easy wins, unless RU goes on the offensive, which they're incapable of. Any major UA offense will be extremely costly, there's no way out of that. And I don't think Zelensky wants to risk UA public morale by suffering a bad defeat.

      said. and if putin really does put in an order for 500k more mobiks (which he absolutely has to if russia ever wants to mount another serious offensive) ukraine is in for a very tough fight

      the real question is going to be how NATO responds to this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It'd open up two fronts they would need to put resources into defending as

      Because it opens a massive front vulnerable on both sides. There's no more easy wins, unless RU goes on the offensive, which they're incapable of. Any major UA offense will be extremely costly, there's no way out of that. And I don't think Zelensky wants to risk UA public morale by suffering a bad defeat.

      explained, then you also have whatever is happening in Belarus so Ukrainian forces have to also account for another attempt in the north. Frankly, it's really down to resources and manpower available. I am sure things would be 100x better if Belarus wasn't a factor right now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine doesn't have the hardware for this sort of major offensive operation.
      It can happen only if they get modern (i.e. not scraps from the 80s) NATO hardware in bulk (i.e. not just the tiny trickle we see now).

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Would it not make more sense to drive the Russians into the sea at Mariupol,
      Thats how America lost South Ukraine in first place

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IF that ever happen, it will be in two or three years.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with Soledar and Bakhmut is they're very close to occupied Donbass where Russians had 8 years to create bases of operations which makes their biggest weakness (logistics) less relevant
    I think Ukraine is better trying to cut off Crimea, it will be a huge blow to Russian morale

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would Ukraine focus on retaking it? It's unimportant and the Russians sacrificed countless troops and material to take it. The Ukies hopefully got a good reminder of how stupid it is to attempt an offensive here.

    An offensive down south seems much more probable.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why retake it? Ukraine won't this war by committing everything to big battles that take months and produce thousands upon thousands of casualties. They want more offensive like Kharkiv, not like Kherson

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eventually it has to be retaken if Ukraine wants all of its country back. Now, can this be done by simply retaking more key areas and forcing the Russians out be simply making keeping it untenable? I hope so.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on whether the planned Russian mega-offensive happens.
    If it happens, Ukraine will be busy defending Lviv and Odessa.
    If it doesn't happen, we can probably follow the Bakhmut timetable and assume that it will happen in a couple of months or a couple of weeks during the regularly planned troop rotations.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    April 20th 2023
    Number magic always wins

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean April 23
      doubles confirm

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kiev in 2 months.
    You heard it here first.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Kyiv will be russian by early March
      I think I've heard this one before anon

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how long until Russians are pushed back out of Soledar.
    idgi.
    wouldn't they need to actually take it first?

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    -2 weeks

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