>its the 1980s (2000s), start of a brand new decade, field is wide open for next generation fighter sales.

>its the 1980s (2000s), start of a brand new decade, field is wide open for next generation fighter sales. Time for Europe to catch up with America!
>A British-German-Italian consortium, Panavia (Eurofighter GmbH), after much toil and setbacks, has finally produced an advanced multirole combat aircraft, the Tornado (Typhoon), which meets all the partner nations' diverse requirements. Hopefully some of the cost of its convoluted development can be recouped with foreign sales
>Meanwhile, Dassault is certain that its own offering, the Mirage 2000 (Rafale) will enjoy the same export success as its predecessor the Mirage F1
>prospects are looking good for Euroboys, many countries are looking for a low cost, high performance light fighter to keep up with the latest generation of scary Miggers (Sukhois)
>Yes yes, well done, Europoors, well done. HOWEVER
>USA has just unveiled the F-16 (F-35), meant to be a less advanced, affordable export-friendly version of its primary air superiority fighter, the F-15 (F-22) .... but it still mogs the shit out of everything else
>the Israelis just tested it over Lebanon (Syria), no better advertising required
>oh fugg, everyone is lining up to buy it
>Belgium, Denmark and the Netherlands, which France and the consortium had been hoping to capture, are the first in NATO to place orders
>sells just as well with third world countries and proceeds to utterly dominate the market for cheap Western fighters over the next two decades .... sales which should have rightfully gone to the Tornado (Typhoon) and Mirage (Rafale)
>EuroTurkey ends up being bought only by Saudi Arabia due to UK political bullshittery, only breaks even due to initial orders by the partner countries
>Mirage does slightly better outside Europe thanks to an extensive overseas bribery campaign by Dassault, but not as good as expected
>Still better than the Viggen (Gripen) I guess.... lel

How does this keep happening? Why does this keep happening?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >countries are more reluctant to but European aircraft than American aircraft
    I mean it makes complete sense. Why wouldn’t this be the case?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >america makes thousands of planes and exports them en masse
    >europe makes a few planes and exports a handful, also they keep blaming each other for everything that goes wrong with a given platform
    gee I wonder why the Americans are seen as the better supplier

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Euros BTFO

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like braphuffer is seething about the french now or something

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine the autocannon starting to fire after the ominous turn

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how load that is
      I was a Plymouth Navy Days event where a Harrier was buzzing Plymouth Hoe (yes it is a real place https://www.visitplymouth.co.uk/explore/areas-to-visit/the-hoe) in VTOL mode, it was deafening and it was further away than the F-35 in this video

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Loud enough to minisculey damage your hearing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally a fricking UFO, thirdie cope clubbers and russkies cannot fathom this shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have this with sound?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >do i have to bump my dead thread again with a dumb bot post?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Genuinely not OP/that guy and wish death on everyone who does that. Only just realized. Moshiwake gozaimasen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dogloSSQ3E

      >Slows down
      >Hover ins place
      >Spins around while hovering
      >Flies off

      Incredible. How much fuel do you think it burned doing that? Doesn't hovering for too long overheat the engine?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        400lb/minute in hover

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Witness me beach-goers
      I love this country so fricking much.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How does this keep happening? Why does this keep happening?
    Simple
    European countries do buy US planes
    US don't buy European planes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also this will always be happening in the future. European planemakers don't expect to ever sell in the US, especially after the tanker debacle in the mid 00s.
      The US mic lobby is just too powerful in Washington.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're forgetting the most important point, that European planes are overwhelmingly dogshit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You're forgetting the most important point, that my threads are overwhelmingly dogshit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >burger realizing that foreign export market is mainly European allies

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >anon discovers arms sales are more about politics and bribes then actual abilities

          Many such cases.

          Interested to see what happens when Tempest enters export market in 2040 and America doesn't sell the NGAD or F/A-XX (F-22).

          Rafale and Eurofighter are just as capable as F-15/16/18's, which still get sales.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the tanker debacle in the mid 00s
        with Boeing being Boeing and Airbus building a factory in Alabama
        the door is now wide open

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Now is the time for Lockheed to reenter the commercial market. The Tristar was the best plane.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, we do sometimes. For niche roles. In very limited numbers. But still!

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does slightly better outside Europe thanks to an extensive overseas bribery campaign by Dassault, but not as good as expected
    Airbus, Agusta, BAE, actually got entangled in legal processes, recognized fraud and corruption, and paid hefty fines regarding the export sales of the Eurofighter. The UK government also ended up investigations regarding the Saudi deal once.
    On the other hand Dassault Aviation did not suffer the same fate regarding any of the Rafale sales despite multiple baseless smearing campaigns in international medias, and came out clean every time.
    Same story for the Mirage 2000 and F1.
    If anything had been shady, the extraterritoriality of US laws would have been enough to cause Dassault huge issues.
    Dassault jets are just good and desirable for certain markets. Of course this makes frog-broken homosexuals seethe to no end.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lockheed has a history of bribery as well

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry anon, I won't resort to whataboutism. Just because someone does something bad doesn't mean everyone should do the same.
        Regarding Rafale sales, there's simply no proof of any wrongdoing, despite several accusations from people unable to cope with the fact the French jet is just a good option for certain markets.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rule the air and everything below it is yours - Airpower

    How the "Super" F-22 Dominates

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not calling it King Raptor

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you think this is fricked up take a look at the VBCI and then to the Freccia. Basically the exact same thing...not to mention the Piranha and the boxer, which are a bit different.

    lmao

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany just announced that they would buy another 20 Eurofighters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tranche 5
      >serial AMK
      >RAM coating
      Can’t believe Germany is cooking

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Typhoons are only beaten by F-22s in Red Flag
    you know nothing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one takes red flag seriously. I hope that clears things up

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >EuroTurkey ends up being bought only by Saudi Arabia due to UK political bullshittery, only breaks even due to initial orders by the partner countries
    What? Germany has been the problem in exporting Eurofighter and even then it has been exported to 5 non-partner countries. Turkey is apparently still interested in purchasing them but Germany is once again causing problems.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nooo the evil germans dont let us export our most modern fighter aircraft to thirdworld nations with a history of extreme bribery, crimes against our nations, subervetion of our nations, funding of terrorism against our nations, funding of extremism against our nations etc.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make verifiably incorrect accusation
        >get corrected
        >ackshually here's why that's a good thing
        Pottery

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Whom should we go with, the offering from the nation that spends trillions on its military every year or the group that cannot reliably get domestic support to provide its bare minimum NATO contribution?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And don't @ me saying;
      >It's only ~$776 billion
      That doesn't count black projects, R&D and most importantly- foreign military aid.
      Looking at you, israelites
      I am not even sure if it counts Veterans because some sources list it separately.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Typhoon is trash and Rafale is doing excellent, beyond expectations even.

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