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how is this possible
Much the same as this one
>russia doesnt have a great naval history
>has a ship on insignia
a ship flies on the surface of the ocean, retard
Vikangz raiders larp I guess.
That is because Navy is where they are going to get their next batch of personnel.
the ship in the middle is the coat of arms of the city where this unit is garrisoned
t. wiki pro
>city over 600 km away from the nearest ocean
>has ship on coat of arms
Tanks for the donation!
Much number lot of 0's
I mean its not like when you forget to take a 20 out of the cash machine or something, you're going to really feel that one well into the next decade
Literally tens of thousands of tanks, vehicles, and guns in reserve.
Yeah those ten thousand T-62s that have sat in storage in Siberia for three decades will arrive any day now and save the day.
their crews are being thawed from right now as well from being stored in Siberia
This, but unironcally
They recruit them because they're illiterate nomads who live in a yurt and don't know what they're getting into.
This. Spawn of Muscovites is too costly to bribe in to the meat grinder.
Well the smarter ones duck out of conscription and go do anything else, the rich ones are in schools in the west. So that just leaves all the churkas, durka durkas, poor as beans plains goblins and toothless white trash fucking weirdos east of the Urals
They are being used because they are 80IQ tards from a people that watch Russian state TV 80% of the time and stand in line for meager state gibs the other 20%. Nobody would care if they disappear, not even themselves.
Except they're rusty, sitting in a semi permafrost paddock with moss growing on them and they're shipping in broke T-62's as replacements and bros running around with nuggets.
These things probably nesting in them right now, the rare red cock warbler, you can hear him in spring
>I'm a tank gay
>I'm a tank gay
>I'm a tank gay
>fuck my turret big boy
>Literally tens of thousands of tanks, vehicles, and guns in reserve.
This meme is stale. They don't have anything modern anymore in their reserves. that's why we're seeing T-62's and BMP-1's
The combination of a kleptocratic culture that would rather lie to itself than face reality and a cult of narcissistic revanchism are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
as in, battle banner captured and struck from Russia's military roster?
I'm sure Russia will just make a new one with the same name and memoryhole what happened, it's a river in Egypt.
They did capture the banner. Ridiculous performance by Russia, these guy were supposedly the steel wall of Moscow against Nato. I guess they are really shit. I will never forgive myself for my sovietboo years except for the Sks. That was actually amazing
It is 'destroyed' as in, they lost almost all of their equipment during their retreat from Kharkiv Oblast and suffered such heavily casualties that it would take years to meaningfully reconstitute them. They will almost certainly be struck after this.
Just a reminder that 1st Guards are the elite guys that in the event of a war with NATO were supposed to defended Moscow itself. The cream of the Russian army crop and a prestige posting for officers.
This shit is getting absurd. It just should not be possible on paper. Russia is starting to make the Afghan army look good.
They were also part of the GSFG, AKA the units the Soviets expected to take on NATO in Germany if the Cold War went hot.
>1st Guards are the elite guys that in the event of a war
More than that: they were the heaviest tank formation of the Russian Army in it's current form, the armoured fist of Russia
>They did capture the banner
Effectively destroyed. They’re shattered as a command, but still exist on paper.
Even pro-Ukraine sources were speculating "these were just Donbas militias" watching the Ukrainians roll over them but it turns out it was the 1st Guards Tank Army. Russia is screwed beyond belief and should just withdraw to the February 23th borders now. captcha:ggg4y
Izyum had a bunch of T-80U captured inside of it. That’s exclusive to the 4th Guards Tank Division which has repeatedly eaten lots of shit this war, and is one of the key units of the 1st GTA. I’d guess the 4th guards is effectively destroyed, while the 1st GTA isn’t looking much better.
>4th Guards Tank Division
Karma is a bitch.
dont worry, it will be reorganized with poorly trained uzbeks on t-72a's in a month
>Role: Breakthrough and Exploitation in Deep Operations
Got fucking destroyed by the Ukies doing the same thing against them.
>1st Guards Tank Army was reconstituted to be Russia's premier ground force with the best soldiers and equipment to fight NATO
>gets rekt by the poorest country in Europe and routs
How long would they have lasted in a war against NATO? A day?
Shock and Awe tactics
We are shocked by the state their army is in and in awe at it's incompetence
>how is this possible
its called 'defeat in detail'
>It was just separatists with old tanks and little training, they're meant to be expendable and buy time. Delay the counteroffensive and buy time for prope-...psyche! It was actually one of the best Russian units!
This war is truly something else. Russia is absolutely going to have to go full North Korea to avoid their population from revolting.
This was supposed to be amongst their best units, if these guys ran away and abandoned all their gear what the hell would the rest of Russias army do if pushed hard enough?
>Sergei Kuzhugetovich, give me back my divisions!
the source for this is the UK intelligence briefing. It might be a bit biased against Russia.
true, we should wait for some russian sources
Official russian sources on the other hand will never admit it. There must be Vkontakte / Telegram groups of veterans, friends and family etc. You could datamine those and also compare the confirmed losses by oryx with the supposed strength.
>There must be Vkontakte / Telegram groups of veterans, friends and family etc
Some time ago those were being banned (mail.ru owns VK) and their admins got letters with threats from ru police. I wonder if its still happening.
>The UK Ministry of Defence further reported to the public on 13 September 2022 that the 1 GTA had not been fully reconstituted after suffering severe losses, and retreated completely from the Kharkiv Oblast during the Ukrainian Kharkiv counteroffensive.
It's almost not funny anymore. Almost.
They'd been sitting there for ages on the maps of who was running around in that region.
But at some point they apparently never figured out some kind of possibility of being attacked by anyone? That's a fucking special kind of hubris
1st Tank Guard Army vs the Iraqi Republican Guard in 1991, who would win?
What is the distance they're running?
I mean, respect where its due: For all its defects, the Tawakalna Divison actually genuinely went into a fight they knew by that point they weren't going to survive. And they did it anyway, fucking throwing themselves in front of the Coalition advance to buy enough time for the majority of the regular Iraqi Army to flee instead of getting overrun. They literally were the reason why Saddam still had an army when it was all over.
You can talk shit about their sub-par equipment, stupid-ass leadership and doctrine etc. But you cannot deny that they damn well fought, and with all the courage you could ever hope a soldier to have.
well, when the commanding officer of the fucking Tamans (2nd GMR) "bravely" retreats "with the wounded", what should the rest of the unit do?
Taman guards is a GMD, not GMR.
It’s real because Wikipedia says so and Wikipedia is always right!
All you need to do is post a picture of someone alive in the 1st guard tank army, it should be easy
Lost.. like tears in the Ukrian.
Peak USSR was different right bros... r-right??
Unironically yes. It wasn't nearly as rosy as tankie idiots make it out to have been, but it also wasn't mearly as much of a shitshow as it is now. Russia has just continously gone more and more to shit for the last 30 years.
You have to understand that Russian society is, for all intents and purposes, post-apocalyptic. The apocalypse was the USSR imploding, and what you have now is like a Mad Max raider gang sifting through the cogs and wheels of the USSR's corpse. They're like Ceaser's Legion pretending they're Rome. Yeah, the general idea is still there, but it's all just a laughable echo of once was and you'd be laughing if these retarded LARPers weren't making a game out of seeing who can do the most war crimes.
Da, totally different. Only reasonable amounts were stolen back then. It was the damn oligarchs who fucked it up. I swear.
Yeah, but only because they were carried by the Ukranian SSR
I am convinced the whole idea of a few days to the borders of France was a crock of shit because they wouldn't be able to have a snowball's chance in hell of any kind of logistics dealing with WW3 and NATO and these innate Russian deficiencies. To say nothing of half of the warsaw pact being unhappy partners. I am not saying they'd have lost. Different ballgame in 1983 technologically. But they would not have done anywhere close to the on paper results.
The Soviets mobilized 300k for the Czechoslovak crackdown and about 80k Poles,Czechs,Hungarians, Bulgarians and kept the GDR ready on standby if things go wrong.
Meanwhile Putin mobilized 130-150k men to knock out the 2nd largest nation in Europe, which they had already antagonized and now was receiving training and supplies by their NATO adversaries.
The Soviets were better than the rotting corpse that is nu Russia
Whoops brainfart but, you get the point
the best chance for a Soviet victory was between ~1963ish-1975ish. That was the only time period they had technological parity with NATO (in fact, superiority in a handful of relevant aspects) on top of their numbers advantage.
In the 80s the tech gap widened but numbers gap was still big enough that they were gonna be a problem right? Not saying they'd win but it would have been cataclysmic and not the embarrassment we are seeing now I imagine.
Yep, even in 1984 NATO was asking its countries for more conventional gear commitment, to avoid the "stopping the zerg with nukes" fallback.
The Soviets were actually ahead of us in CBWs iirc.
shattered and lost their equipment
but that's not necessarily the end of the 1st guards tank army
they'll be reconstituted with worse equipment
All these troops were 20-40 years old. Now that they're off the roster Russia can replace them with newer ones.
It now says they are still active though notes they completely fled the Kharkiv counter offensive.
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