It's hilarious how people cope about 9mm.

It's hilarious how people cope about 9mm.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    9mm went just as deep as the other ones tho

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      COPE
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  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You notice there's no 10mm in that image. Problem is every time they tried to get a picture of a shot in gel it just exploded the gel. Same thing with 22LR, the NWO doesn't want you to know the actual powerful rounds and have you children squabble over garbage

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      10mm is a meme round. 40 S&W is God's chosen caliber.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Just like how garden gnomes are God's chosen people

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the whole reason .40 even exists is because feds were to too pussy to handle 10mm

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The whole reason 9mm is coming back into fashion is agents were to pussy to handle 40.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >People are being too pussy
            >Here I am cc'ing a Glock 20 with Buffalo Bore 220 grains

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Buffalo Bore
              >cc
              do you live on the african savanna perchance?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You mean Detroit?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >do you live on the african savanna perchance?
                Does Mississippi count? Jokes aside: I don't wanna be caught with my pants around my ankles. So I'd rather more power than not enough.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Rather large men get better results with .40 than 10mm, if it's about what's best and not just a pissing contest than for most people .40sw is the superior choice. It isn't just who is capable of firing 10mm, but even if you are able to fire it is 10mm actually a better choice for you? Are the very small terminal ballistic advantages enough to make up for everything else? For most adult males the answer is no, and if you're insecure enough to be saying this then the answer is probably no for you too.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Wow you're fucking gay

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >.40sw is the superior choice
            >compared with 10mm Auto
            Dude, you're the biggest homo in this entire thread.
            Just ask yourself: Why hasn't .40 seen any big development for at least ten years while 10mm has made an awesome comeback?
            Everything a .40 does a 10mm does better. You can use weak 10mm loads which are as easy to shoot as a 40. But - UNLIKE A 40 - you can get piss hot loads that deliver a ton more energy than even the hottest .40 loads.
            >and if you're insecure enough to be saying this then the answer is probably no for you too.
            Says the dude who's just too weak to get proficient with TEN MILLIMETER AUTO

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        40s&w is literally 10mm…BUT WORSE. Sorry you could only afford that used glawk fotty moron

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I really wish you had quads or quints so the hilarity would have been even greater

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    better infographic on bullet ballistics

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >no 45
      Disregarded

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        irrelevant meme cartridge.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/5MAeOeO.jpg

      It's hilarious how people cope about 9mm.

      >muh died gel blocks to show "wound cavity"
      im consistently amazed at how fucking dumb people are. Gel does not and was not ever meant to represent wound diameter, the gel tears around the projectiles path as it passes through greatly exaggerating the diameter of damage. all that matters at traditional handgun velocity is projectile diameter, and an extra .1" isnt very meaningful.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Difference is I can fit a shit ton more 9mm in a magazine than .45

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and you could fit even more 22. Why not just carry a 22?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        jokes on yall, i carry a bb gun. i can fit like 100 rounds in it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Because .45 only delivers 100-ish joules more while .22LR has 200-300J less energy at the muzzle?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you'll need it. turns out the 9mm's performance in the miami shootout wasn't due to the bullets, but is just inherent to the 9mm's overall pussiness. that armenian in illinois had to magdump on the soiboi shooter to stop him. even better you should switch to 30 super carry, JustAsGood(tm) as 9mm, but more capacity.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious how people still argue about pussy cartridges like 9mm and .45 ACP or stupid gucci shit like .357 SIG when 10mm Auto exists.

    Deal with it: 10mm Auto is the final answer to all pistol related ammo questions.
    >Decent mag capacity
    >Tons of energy
    >Can be loaded to weakling .40 levels or piss hot .357 Magnum ones

    Fite me if you want but the 10 mm Auto is the jack of all trades. Especially now since it's popular again and companies are putting some serious development into it.
    Everything else is niche bullshit that has no real reason to exist in the first place.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      9x25 dillon mogs 10mm infinitely
      >g-g-guchi!
      doesn't matter, still performs better in every way

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >g-g-guchi!
        That's your only argument? lol, lmao even.
        Unlike your g-g-gucci Dillion 10mm is readily available both factory ammo and reloading components and also guns, barrels and mags.
        9x25's slightly better performance becomes completely irrelevant when we are talking about real-life stopping power.
        There's nothing including larger game that can't be put down with 10mm Auto - unlike 9mm and .45 ACP.
        So 10mm is both plenty and more than good enough.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >reloading components
          You lose on this part. 9x25 takes the exact same components as 10mm, but uses 9mm bullets, which are just a tiny bit more common than literally every projectile on the market. It's a reloader's cartridge, but it is a VERY viable reloader's cartridge.
          >guns, barrels and mags
          You can get a Glock barrel made for it right now. That's enough for it to be viable. Also, it uses 10mm mags, so that's not an argument.
          >slightly better performance
          I think the 2000 FPS is something that sets it apart from pretty much any other semi-auto handgun round short of some true one-off wildcats.
          >real life stopping power
          Hard to truly know because there is practically zero testing with 9x25, but I'm willing to bet a 90gr XTP moving 2000 FPS kicks the shit out of any mainstream pistol cartridge.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, stop.
        9x25 dillon is the same fucking thing as 10x25 Auto unless you're loading actual AP with the extra velocity. You do not have a bigger case. You do not have a higher pressure limit. You have the same exact cartridges with 115-147 grain (typical) bullets instead of 155-220 grain bullets. Leave immediately with your gay zoomer language

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >9x25 must be better than 10x25

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm disappointed that nobody posted the one that shows 10mm and the cavity is a mushroom cloud

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong caliber

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >the .50 is a Bullet Bill
        seems about right

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't everything that manages to get over the blue line good?

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the retards too pussy to take 9mm to the chest to prove its harmless thread?

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i feel like bullets dont really do the explosion wound channel thing in real life on real tissue. i've shot a lot of deer and it never looked like that

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's a temporary damage cavity, the damage is inflicted but you won't be able to autopsy and see that besides maybe disrupted organ/tissue in the path.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They don't.
      The performance of a bullet in gel has very little to do with the performance of a bullet on a target made out of living meat and bone. The only thing gel is good at is being a consistent base to compare rounds to eachother; in gel. The problem with getting real terminal performance data is you'd have to shoot live people and/or animals to get your results. It's kind of unethical to do that. So the only source of _real_ ballistic terminal performance is what we learn from gunshot victims; thus hospitals and hunter's experience. Everything else is just lab testing. That said, I'll give Paul Harrell props for his meat target, which due to its composition is (in my opinion) a better marker of terminal performance. Not ideal, but lightyears better than gel or clay or any other medium I've seen regularly used.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      gelatin was chosen as a test medium because it could be calibrated to correlate well in terms of bullet penetration ONLY, the FBI wasn't looking at anything else except penetration. the size of the permanent and temporary cavities have no relationship whatsoever to actual tissue, no more than wet clay or water jugs do. so any time you see a manufacturer or their online influencers trying to use either of those as marketing tools for their meme round, you know they're deliberately lying to you.
      Testing on meat products including recently killed animals doesn't work either due to rigor mortis and tissue degradation that sets in quickly and drastically reduces muscle elasticity, which artificially increases the size of the permanent wound cavity.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The explosion you see is just the gel testing from the temporary cavity. In handgun rounds it exaggerates how the wound channel looks in gel because they aren't going fast enough for the TC to stretch enough to start tearing tissue. 10 % ballistics gel tests are actually very representative of the wound channels you can expect to see in real world use. It would be fucking retarded for every single bullet manufacturer and terminal ballistics lab to be using a medium that only correlates with the penetration of a bullet and nothing else. If you want to see a would that looks more like what you see in gel, shoot the heaviest TMK/ELD-M your cartridge can reasonably push and see what it does on game. Fragmenting bullets permanent cavities can more closely resemble the TC. When the bullet expands and then fragments, those shards of bullet pierce the stretched tissue which takes away a lot it's elasticity.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Those are temporary wound cavities.
      Typically the almost entirely close afterwards.
      Fragmentation is the key to making those temporary cavities more permanent. But most pistol cartridges don't fragment particularly well.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If it ends in mm it's cringe.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Good that it's 10 centimeter then.

      10mm is pure fucking cope when 460 Rowland and 50ae exist. Get that weak shit out of here.

      >460 Rowland and 50ae
      >Only a fistful of factory loads
      >No guns on the market to speak of
      >No aftermarket support
      >No conversion kits for existing guns
      >Price per round lightyears above 10mm
      >Not much development to speak of so rounds are still the same as 2003
      Yeah, tell me again how much better your hard hitting Rowland and AfricanEliminator rounds are compared with 10mm

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        460 is about 50% stronger than 10mm and 50ae is at least double. No amount of cope will change that. The best you can do is dab on retards that fell for the 9mm meme.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >460 is about 50% stronger than 10mm and 50ae is at least double
          Cool. But when 10mm is more than good enough to kill bears and other large, dangerous game, why would you need that much more power?
          At the end of the day guys like you think cartridges are a dickwaving contest about sheer power while in reality its about having the most power for the lowest price and with tons of gun, ammo and aftermarket company support - all of which your super-duper power loads don't have.
          Enjoy having the choice between five factory loads, three kinds of bullets and two factory guns bro

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You forgot to add the capacity argument to your 9mm tier cope. Its funny watching 10mmlets use the same cope as 9mm users when they are clearly outmatched.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >YaddaYadda
              >My only argument is the nuclear power of my favorite gucci round
              You guys are the funniest clowns in the gun world.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >9mm is cheaper and holds more rounds
                10mm eternally btfo

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                your wife is cheaper and holds more loads, I guess that makes her the best hooker

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            More power can equal less power.
            Let me explain. We can probably all agree that a 1 oz slug going 2000 fps is going to tear some shit up and punch a hole through some one, but that's the problem. All of the excess energy gets carried away with it and not delivered on target. 1 oz of Birdshot going 1500fps on the other hand, can deliver all of it's energy into the target, shredding them completely and taking a chunk of them and throwing it on the floor. What really causes the damage is energy transfer, so a hadron collider has far more energy pumped into it than any handgun that ever existed had, and some guy got head shotted by it but lived. Why? Because of inefficient energy transfer. This is why piercing ammo on fleshy targets is a bad idea, cause you won't cause as much damage as regular ammo and will end up with a bunch of holes the same diameter as the bullet (not good), which is also the reason why expanding rounds like hollow points are so much better, because they "dump" more of their energy into the target.
            I don't feel like continuing typing, so I'll once again advocate for THV ammo, the best bullet construction for energy transfer there is. 4" crater in flesh with 45acp.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >At the end of the day guys like you think cartridges are a dickwaving contest about sheer power while in reality its about having the most power for the lowest price and with tons of gun, ammo and aftermarket company support
            This and nothing else.
            And it's also the main reason why there are thousands of handgun rounds of which only half a dozen can be considered mainstream.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    10mm is pure fucking cope when 460 Rowland and 50ae exist. Get that weak shit out of here.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ok guys, basically, 9 mm aside, what is the cheapest and widely available semi-auto caliber that can give you the intended result for all-around uses ?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      32acp leagues better than all other cartridges
      >BEST LETHALITY IN ALL SCENARIOS
      >BTFO ALL OTHER HANDGUN ROUNDS FOR INCAPACITATION AND KILL RATE
      >no seriously, look at any incapacitation rate data from any part of the country and 32 acp stands above all else by a long shot.
      Bonus:THV AMMO

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I see 10mmfags ran out of money for overpriced and underpowered range ammo for their basic glock and are seething about the superior caliber again.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >overpriced and underpowered range ammo
      Kek, that's a good one my dude. Especially if you're a fan of niche cartridges which cost >3 bucks a pop.
      >more energy at 300 yards than a .45ACP at the muzzle.
      There's your """weak""" 10mm

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah ok compare the stats of buffalo bore and not the anemic shit you buy for range day. God 10mmfags are the bikefags of pistol calibers

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You fucking wish 10mm was that strong lmao.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          TWO!

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >All these buttfuckers here naming some gucci niche cartridges as the hottest shit.
    There's a reason why your 9x26 Panzerfucker or your .457 Digeridoo or whatever is a niche round.
    If we are strictly talking pistols its
    >.380 ACP
    >9mm Para
    >.40 Short & Weak (which is dying out right now)
    >10mm Auto
    >.45 ACP

    Any new round has to be much better than those in several ways. And when it comes to 10mm it's kinda hard to beat the champ of champions.
    tl;dr your boutique rounds are a joke even if they deliver the power of a Davy Crockett

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine you'd live to see the day when some people on PrepHole seriously call the 10mm weak.
    This show is spiralling out of control.
    On one hand we see a revival of comically weak mouse rounds like .25, on the other we got fucks who think anything short of .500 Magnum is too weak for self defense.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why don't you donate more money to the nra and shut the fuck up boomer.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I got some serious questions for the guys who think 10 Millimeter ain't sufficient.
    Is there a stronger pistol round
    >with a bigger choice of factory loads
    >with more pistols readily available
    >with a greater choice of aftermarket parts like mags and barrels and conversion kits
    >with a lower price per round?
    I'm seriously interested. 10mm sounds like the most powerful option if you still want to retain all the perks of other major calibers.
    Perhaps my dad wasn't wrong at all
    >Son, if Glock or any other of the big companies doesn't build a gun for it, then it's a niche round

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >10mm sounds like the most powerful option if you still want to retain all the perks of other major calibers.
      It is tho. Yeah there are stronger cartridges on the market but they got tons of drawbacks starting with the eternal search for ammo.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I got some serious questions for the guys who think 9 Millimeter ain't sufficient.
    Is there a stronger pistol round
    >with a bigger choice of factory loads
    >with more pistols readily available
    >with a greater choice of aftermarket parts like mags and barrels and conversion kits
    >with a lower price per round?
    I'm seriously interested. 9mm sounds like the most powerful option if you still want to retain all the perks of other major calibers.
    Perhaps my dad wasn't wrong at all
    >Son, if Glock or any other of the big companies doesn't build a gun for it, then it's a niche round

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Jokes on you. 9mm loses the "stronger" part.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Faster follow on shots and more mag capacity doesn't matter because look at muh wound cavity!
    To be clear I don't give a singular fuck what anyone wants to carry or use. Everything has its benefits and sacrifices. It's on the individual to decide what and where to sacrifice.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >he needs follow up shots
      Lmao have fun eating return fire

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Faster follow on shots and more mag capacity
      i carry 0.1 mm for this very reason

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I will never understand you morons dick measuring calibers. Learn to hit your fucking target and it doesn’t matter what fucking pozzed round you prefer sticking up your anus. There’s no reason to measure a wound cavity in someone’s skull because they’ll be fucking dead regardless.

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