It's been two (2) weeks since vatniks announced the great Russian assault to take Kupiansk. A counter Herson capture, if you will, for the Russian army.
Will it take two more weeks for them to capture it?
It's been two (2) weeks since vatniks announced the great Russian assault to take Kupiansk.
>the russians are literally trying to retake copeyansk to cope with the surovikin line crumbling
This, the second line is crumpling already, Tokmak is in artillery range, ATACMS coming soon
>surovikin line crumbling
Is over.
>She doesn't know
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I would't huff hopium yet. It's entirely possible they might get pushed back from the salient.
Russians seem really desperate to close that gap.
>It's entirely possible they might get pushed back from the salient
at the upper dot Russia was bombing week ago, Russian cope was that it was merely Ukrainian scouting group funneled into kotel, the fact that Ukrainian control expanded and Russia failed to stop them means it's unlikely they will be successful now
That's a terrible use of salient and completely incorrect. Stop.
Feel free to correct me.
NTA but it's not surrounded.
>It's entirely possible
True, the other day I was just talking to a buddy of mine in the Russian MoD and he said the same thing.
>build three lines of defense
>enemy already occupies second line of defense and you only have one last line left
>this is somehow okay
why worry? enemy take one line - we build three more
and what's to stop this from happening, exactly? puncturing a line of defense in one small area doesn't give you a victory like a videogame, the rest of the line is still there and manned lmao
>and what's to stop this from happening, exactly?
The fact that it hasn't happened already lmao
>the rest of the line is still there
what's the point of a trench when enemy can attack from behind and front?
>and what's to stop this from happening, exactly?
Ukrainians, probably.
kek
Where is the Zapo NPP exactly in this pic?
its off the map, directly west of vasylivka
My biggest concern with this shit war is that NPP blowing up and ruining my soil baka
Fucking Russians need to gtfo
Uncivilized invaders
the only bit of (relatively) good news is that it wouldn't be as bad as chernobyl. Them just blowing up the reactors wouldn't make them go suprecritical and give everyone stage 5 cancer. it will still ruin the environment around it and downstream though.
if they blow up the reactors from inside, it wont have a chernobyl-level disaster effect because the reason radiation spread everywhere in a giant radius and eventually across europe is because the reactor itself was on fire and lifting radiation-saturated ash into the air
what stops them from setting reactor on fire?
nothing. the only real difference to chernobyl would be the reactor going supercritical. The pozzians would have to be quite evil to intentionally overload the reactor like it did in chernobyl.
+ the main reason the chernobyl reactor was on fire was that the core went supercritical to begin with, generating massive amounts of heat
>The pozzians would have to be quite evil to intentionally overload the reactor
They will do it won't they
it's not impossible. they could start the same chain of events that led to reactor 4 of chernobyl going supercritical and then exploding, because both NPP's use same kinds of soviet tech. the LWR's in both installations have the same flaws as they are the same design pretty much. However there are 6 reactors in ZNPP, compared to the one that accidentally blew up in chernobyl, so any intentional overloading could be one or siz reactors, which is the scary part.
>one or siz
meant to say one or up to six
if they overloaded all six reactors, it would basically be a megachernobyl. massive stretches of land would basically need to be turned into an exclusion zone, and the entire downstream of the dnipro would need to be quarantined
stalker 3 looking hype
didnt they replaced graphite tipped rods in all nuclear reactors in soviet union after the chernobyl disaster?
>The pozzians would have to be quite evil
I mean, they blew up dam for no strategic reason, destroyed all civilian infrastructure in Kherson just for spite, stole all firetrucks and started burning grain shipments aimed for their African allies. There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't overload all reactors if they assumed they are going to lose Kherson + Crimea
And also what's stopping them from just starting to turn the plant back on as things get worse to exacerbate things?
The only people who know how to work the plant to turn it back on are the Ukrainians and they're not going to do that knowing that the Russians will just shoot them afterwards.
And getting Russian nuclear Engineers to volunteer to go to Ukraine to deliberately blow the reactor likely will be a one way trip as well.
Wouldn't do to set the reactors out of control without Russia going "We would have stopped it but evil HATO Nazi drones killed all the scientists!"
>And getting Russian nuclear Engineers to volunteer to go to Ukraine to deliberately blow the reactor likely will be a one way trip as well.
Why would it be a one way trip to start it normally and then bail before the explosives kick in a few days later?
There are russian nuclear engineers in ZNPP and they're fucking with reactors.
I mean there was a strategic reason to blow the dam, it was just a very stupid one
And there's a strategic reason to completely annihilate Ukraine's agriculture sector by blowing up the plant even if it's a stupid idea.
If you're going to deliberately blow up a nuclear reactor, why not go all in?
>make reactor go supercritical, essentially making radiation go into belarus, russia, perhaps many NATO countries, putting their citizens at direct risk from your actions, essentially declaring war on NATO
Anon, they literally bombed Romania with Shahed yesterday
if not this, then polluting the european atmosphere with 6 chernobyls will definitely be it
Russia can wait until wind blows into Russia to blow them up, then radiation going into NATO countries will be low enough for NATO to cuckout
The Romanian MoD denies it happened.
If you're worried about any of that, you wouldn't cause a nuclear incident in the first place.
can we really trust the russians to make good decisions though
Fucking hell, I’ve just started to be self reliant on my potatoes.
They probably will, but at most it will result in Fukushima-like meltdown, and even that is highly unlikely.
what other anon said. the large placename that will show up next to (across river from) znpp at lower map zoom levels is nikopol.
why didnt ukranians push all over the front in the south
why just one place?
its physically impossible to assault up a steep hill with prepared defenders on top of said hill
go ahead and try it in real life
it would be an unnecessary slogfest
>it would be an unnecessary slogfest
And now its not?
Ukraine has like a hundred brigades they cant make a bigger attack?
Also why is there so much forces around bahmut still?
Why not put some tdf there to hold the line its not like vatniks have strength for an attack and transfer all the elite units like 3rd assault to the south?
i'm not very knowledgable in military strategy, but i would imagine it would be easier to make a big hole in a line of fortifications near tactically advantageous spots, and being able to go around instead of taking on the entire line of fortifications from the front.
I imagine that the circumstances would be different if robotyne and the surrounding areas were flat instead of being around some heights. It also depends on the fighting/manning capability of the russians. from what i hear, the russians are taking away troops from other parts of the ukraine front in order to plug the hole in robotyne despite taking horrendous casualties, so it could free up other areas on the front.
so i wouldn't call the robotyne push an unnecessary slogfest, but a necessary one.
if you check any map at all you would see that russia has deployed a reserve army near tokmak and has another one for vasylivka
you would be insane to try to bumrush a breakthrough when the whole point of these reserve armies is to precisely stop that
recently russia had to deploy an uncooked army up in the luhansk area to make a damaged guards army rotate down to deal with robotyne
if ukraine can keep forcing these rotations then eventually there wont be any reserve armies to stop breakthroughs
Bakhmut is diversion so Russians can't free up troops there.
what
said.
because bakhmut is symbolically important to russia, to lose it would be to lose a lot of face, and face is of utmost importance to the short term survival of the current russian regime
Are we forgetting the fucking first weeks after spring when Ukrainians conducted probing attacks all over the southern fronts??
They just found this axis to offer the least resistance while bringing the highest strategic benefit.
You also forget that manpower and material are limited and Ukraine does not squander it.
>why didnt ukranians push all over the front in the south
why did it take USA 6 months to deliver 31 tank?
Why 6? 18, and they haven't delivered them yet anyway.
in next 11 days first 10 tanks will be transfered to Ukraine
Drawing random arrows doesn't work in reality
Remember when THE ENTIRE COUNTRY was encircled 550 days ago?
Dimwits like you always think that everybody else is somehow even dumber than you
You think that if it were as easy as
>lmao just walk forward and shoot haha
they would not have done that already?
No, of course, anon is the first to figure out that, if the enemy is developing a salient, the right strategy is to just shoot them and walk forward. Every general in every war, in the entire history of this planet has just been staggeringly retarded and somehow missed the fact that you can just tell your guys to kill the enemy and advance.
Fuck you.
>the rest of the line is still there and manned lmao
They're manning it expecting a frontal assault on the rest of the line?
bro the enemy is gonna get behind you if he can, start running.
>glorious pussian arrows
>pathetic dills' arrows
Needs wider arrows
>puncturing a line of defense in one small area doesn't give you a victory like a videogame, the rest of the line is still there and manned lmao
Tearing a hole in your NBC suit doesn't matter, the rest of your gear is still there keeping out the nerve gas
one problem with vast kilometers long and kilometers wide minefields is that they stop the enemy just as they stop you.
Ukrainian troops, IVFs, tanks, artillery, airforce, drones and, ironically, russia's own mines.
You don't get to post that pic when your own offensive is doing way worse lmaooo
you got your arrows in the wrong direction, they tried pushing south, not west
live look at the Russian offensive
More like 4 weeks, no?
>It's been two (2) weeks
Russians announced it two months ago, then again month ago and then again two weeks ago
>2 weeks
It's closer to 2 months at this point kek
is the attacker supposed to lose ground when he launches an offensive?
It's rope a dope, stupid HATO dogs don't understand that Russia is luring Ukraine into a trap, then it will unleash the thousand T90s they built this year and 400 ARMATAS that 3rd corps has been training with, supported by squadrons of su-57s.
>HATO brains fail to understand Red Rmy concept of Deep Battle in Depth
Many such cases.
It's definitely been more than 2 weeks since I heard about mighty 100k army ready to take Kupiansk
>Will it take two more weeks for them to capture it?
yes.
>Shoigu: Zapad exercises will not be held this year
>Surovikin: Seen for first time since placed under house arrest, with some whore
>Putin after talks with Erdogan: Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed
>Putin after talks with Erdogan: Russia is ready to return to Black Sea Grain deal if all agreements will be fulfilled
>American and allied officials (NYT): Kim Jong-un plans to travel to Russia this month to meet with President Putin to discuss the possibility of supplying Russia with more weaponry for its war in Ukraine
>Faytuks: This has to stop. North Korea is prolonging this war by sending weapons to Russia. North Korea is forcing Russians to fight a pointless proxy war pushed by the Iranian elite. PEACE NOW!
: This has to stop. North Korea is prolonging this war by sending weapons to Russia. North Korea is forcing Russians to fight a pointless proxy war pushed by the Iranian elite. PEACE NOW!
topkek
Is this war just a huge wwi-larp?
>The enemy has launched a meat grinder offensive into our well fortified positions
>we must respond with our own meat grinder offensive into their well fortified positions
you've just described ww2 and Korea
Can’t really conduct offensive operations when all of your shells, artillery and armored components get relocated to the southern front to frantically stop the Ukrainians from taking Tokmak.
So the mighty Surovikin line didn't last very long did it?
The Russians never announced any assault on Kupiansk. Lmao They don't have a habit of informing media about their intentions. Perhaps you're projecting? Perhaps you are confusing them with someone else? Like, a country whose military and political leaders had published a hollywood style TEASER PROMO for their big spring offensive that thus far failed to reach enemy's first line of defenses?
On your question, the Russians wont make any major moves around that area until the ukraine will burn up all of its available reserves in the south. Russians have all the time in the world. The ukraine? Not so much.
>They don't have a habit of informing media about their intentions.
Like when they announced withdrawal, gestures of good will or the beginning of the war? Why are you lying?
Yes they don't inform the media, they only make a stupid stunt to announce it in front of cameras.
>The Russians never announced any assault on Kupiansk
And just like that Kupiansk offensive went the same way winter offensive went
All these battles will be lost in time, like Battles of Rzhev in Soviet history books.
>Lmao They don't have a habit of informing media about their intentions
>The Russians never announced any assault on Kupiansk
So why was it shilled for the past two months here on PrepHole that Kupiansk was about to fall and that there were steady gains?
they also didn't announce a war on ukraine in fact they denied it (and if pressed they still do I think)