>Its been a year of full-blown drone warfare. >there have been zero (0) punt guns put into service

>It’s been a year of full-blown drone warfare
>there have been zero (0) punt guns put into service
>no one even trying a normal shotgun with birdshot
Do they like having grenades dropped on them? Where the hell are all the shotguns? They’re fighting in trenches and regularly need to shoot birds out of the sky and it’s like the gun invented for those things doesn’t exist. Why tho

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Shooting a drone at 300m is exactly the same as shooting a flock of birds at 100m
    Come on anon think for a moment before making a thread

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a lot of drone are absolutely within hittable range with a shotgun and it’d be a lot more effective than spraying an ak at them. Particularly with suicide drones. And if shotguns got normalized then that would require all the drones to stay farther out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure they don't fly at 300m when carrying payload (well, they can, but their range will suffer greatly so i don't think they will do that). More like 100 at most

      t. Mavic user

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >More like 100 at most
        we've seen enough drops to know that they do in fact fly at >200m. unless you know something about recent changes in g that you haven't told us about.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Like I said they technically can, but to do so you'll have to be suicidally close ( something like 1 km to the target if you want to be absolutely sure your drone can actually arrive there and have time to spot the target, aim, drop, confirm the hit, and return safely)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Drones last on average about 3 missions so I doesn't think guaranteeing safety is the concern.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen enough /shotgungeneral/ threads to know that some anons swear they could hit a human sized target beyond 200m with pellets, we should send them to the front lines to help

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Shooting a drone at 300m is exactly the same as shooting a flock of birds at 100m
          Come on anon think for a moment before making a thread

          I've seen enough /shotgungeneral/ threads to know that some anons swear they could hit a human sized target beyond 200m with pellets, we should send them to the front lines to help

          Couldn't someone shoot the bombs out of the air mid flight? seems like it would be easier than shooting clays, if anything.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I just talked to my friend who rotated off the front, he is an officer and works closely with the drone operators. He told me 1km, 1.5km is the max they can reliably fly for missions because at further ranges the weaker signal is more susceptible to countermeasures and anti drone guns (at least where they are) and they often don't return so you are not far off from the truth. A kilometer in trench warfare is more than plenty to drop a vog on someone's head.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >He told me 1km, 1.5km is the max they can reliably fly for missions
            We have teams who use external ground antennas and THREE batteries on Mavic 3 that fly over 30km and back for recon missions. Standard Mavic 3 usually flies to 3-5km for recond and artillery correction usually. For drops though, it's usually within 2km

            EW is not that big of an issue, to be honest. It just disables GPS and the drone can't stabilize itself against the wind. Even the anti-drone guns don't disable the drone right away. You start noticing lags in the signal and just skedaddle

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You need dronehunter-drones. Small loitering drones in flocks above your position that target any bomber-sized drone within 100m of your position. Armed with strings to drop in rotors or something like that. Solar-powered if possible so they can stay up there.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >punt gun
    why not a belt fed 8ga firing flechettes? would also be useful against human wave attacks, as well as generally awesome.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is pretty surprising that no counter-measure innovations have appeared on the battlefield. It could be that these don't actually constitute that big of a problem on the battlefield. Maybe the total number of casualties to these are negligible.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have been assuming this. Wtih a few vehicle exceptions they are still just dropping individual grenades on individual soldiers 1 at a time and it's a big big war.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've been wondering the same thing. Slavshits repeatedly getting fragged by Mavics seems like it could be solved by a 12-gauge with birdshot. Surely those things can't be that durable? Hoping we start seeing specialized Fudd units armed with Real Tree Maverick 88's from Walmart to aid in Air Defense.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      These drones are dropping most of the time from 150 to 300m. Not even buckshot has a reliable enough spread at those ranges to hit anything most of the time. Birdshot? Get outta here. The camera perspective is lying to you. They aren't at 75m much less 30, where birdshot could accomplish anything. Maybe... just perhaps.... the reasons you lot aren't seeing shotguns being used is because they wouldn't work like you think they would.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, an American 180 would probably be the ideal.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          A 100m + hit on a drone that's only still for a moment is a lot to ask. Having a shotgun on hand, knowing the drone is overhead, is pretty impractical as 95% pf these drop videos show the targets are unaware before the impact. And the counter will merely be that vogs are dropped from 200m instead, totally negating any shotgun. That's why you don't see them being used by either side. There's a a shitload of duck guns in Ukraine. It's not used because it's a pure dream

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why couldn't you shoot the bomb?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hence the fricken punt gun
        Put grapeshot in it I dont give a shit

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You're a fricking moron. Piss off leave and practice your spam tactics there.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just pretend that there’s a drone hovering meter off the ground and that thing is fricked

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