>its 6am. >dozens (maybe up to 80) of drones have already hit since 2:30am

>its 6am
>dozens (maybe up to 80) of drones have already hit since 2:30am
>80 lawnmower drones fly in clear daylight
>for 500 km over enemy territory
>100% clear sky
>Air Defense non-existent
>Air Force non-existent
>Random guys with Aks shooting
>BLYAT

This is the power of Russia. Realistically at this rate we have about 24 months until we see 100+ drone a night attacks within 500km of the frontline into multiple Russian cities/industrial centers. Russian AD just keeps getting worse and worse.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe they can get AD from Iran and North Korea

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can't do that, it might actually work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe Russia can just withdraw from Ukraine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not happening, Yuri
        >captcha: HVVVY

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      theres zero chance iran will give up AD in the middle of an almost war with israel, specially knowing israel has air superiority

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    where shilka? tunguska? pantsir?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      protecting high value targets like villas around Moscow and StP

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but they should know that ukraine only targets military targets?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if I were Ukraine I'd target dachas also. hurt the ruling class for once. if they are heavily defended, though, their money making infrastructure is another good target.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            why hasn't Ukraine btfo Putin's Sochi palace?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I keep asking the same thing; my only guess is that it's not really a military target per se and would likely make him ape out completely.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's just a reason to do it
                making it obvious that his denial of the place being his is bullshit. the cherry on top

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they will probably do it if they ever have the upper hand. but i doubt that they ever will have that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Where do you think is most of the AA hell they did that shit last year we found out they have 3 pansir alone over Moscow oligarch neighborhood

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if I were Ukraine I'd target dachas also. hurt the ruling class for once. if they are heavily defended, though, their money making infrastructure is another good target.

          Targeting dachas would propably be the fastest way to end the war, Putin would have an accident if the families of oligarchs started exploding.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, they've been dying by the dozens and there hasn't been a rebellion against the Monke yet.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_(2022%E2%80%932024)

            The current known body count is 68.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But there are like 6000 Tunguskas every made, I'm sure they're still 1/10 operative which should be enough to cover most of the border with Ukraine

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine is testing ground. Nobody bothers with it but the PR departments. slav on slav shit is irrelevant. What is relevant is if NATO will eventually decide to get boots on ground (officially). So both sides, NATO and Russia (+China) plan for that accordingly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Spanish Civil War 2

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you seriously think they have the missiles for even 1/10th of them? The soviet stock of solid fueled rockets has pretty much expired/been used up (no solid fuel rocket grain lasts for 40 years) , now they're relying on a country with the industrial might of Italy to replenish the stocks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sir is dead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Eurobeat intensifies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >But in this movie for adults there is a third participant. This cuckold only watches but does not act, maybe it is an Air Defense Cuckold!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Good luck, I'm behind 7 Shilkas!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dude there is footage from the initial tard rush showing a Russian aD squadron straight up abandoning like 6 tanguskas because the fricking things weren’t maintained.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That was a deliberate attempt to trick Ukrainians into operating those cursed shitheaps, but crests saw through the ploy and set fire to them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >shilka
      Sold abroad or for scrap decades ago.
      >tunguska
      Poorly maintained don't work.
      >pantsir
      It's shit sir.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    these drone attacks on oil and gas are starting to sting russia more than a little now

    there is a reason shoigu was replaced with an economist

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      20% of refining ability got BTFO as of late April. I assume the number is higher now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >20%
        more.jpg

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      20% of refining ability got BTFO as of late April. I assume the number is higher now.

      >The loss of some Russian refining capacity pushed up domestic prices 20% to 30% by mid-March and triggered an export halt to focus on meeting domestic demand, according to an assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency, which was summarized in a report released Thursday by the inspector general overseeing US aid to Ukraine.

      >“To mitigate the impact of these strikes, Russia banned gasoline exports for six months starting in March, began importing refined product from Belarus, planned to import from Kazakhstan, and prioritized shipments of petroleum products by Russian Railways, as opposed to other means of transportation,” the report said.

      once the ukies are mass producing these things in numbers enough to black out the sky, the russian economy might explode, or at the very least force them to draw air defense systems away from ukraine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My guess is that Russia is trying to find these factories and hit them. I wonder how Ukraine is preventing this. Spreading production out?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          taras making them in a shed with a bunch of scraps

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They are made in China lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They also have models they made themselves

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          HATO underground factories

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They are probably made somewhere safe in the EU, they can just drive them in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          secret factories in the Carpathian caves.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Built under Magyar clay. Can't wait for Hungary to get it back

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The Hungarians need to get Hungary back first, as Orban has been selling large parts of it off to the chinks now that the Russian's have gone broke.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Germans have reopened the Riese facility. Kammlerbros, we are so back!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they're underground, like other anons said. It's very unlikely russians will be able to locate them in the first place, much less actually hit and destroy them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Kremlin are cunningly preserving their game changing AD network beneath mobile cope sheds for the dash to the Channel ports.

          Dispersing production to small shops is easy when the items produced are not large. Drones only require clean, dry, well lit (because efficiency is worth it) shops of modest size for assembly. 3D printers are dirt cheap and work can be dispersed among workers homes or anywhere else handy.

          Commodity parts for most of each make it no big deal. Small shops could cost less than the cruise missile etc to destroy them and leave no tells visible from space. Creative minds could use old gutted buildings like warehouses for visual cover then plop a few shipping containers inside as weatherproof workspace. (They make nice shops including mine.)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they know but they are most likely in polan, romania and who knows where else. not even NATO shenanigans, Ukraine govt just bought land there and put a factory. The frick are russkies gonna do?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Putin wouldn't find His own dick, even If the whole Russian Army searched for it.
          The only chance Russia hast of right now, ist to attack Ukraines powergrid in hope thatnthey might distract the produciton capabilities.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine is connected to the EU powergrid now... really hard to disrupt its grid even if they can bomb every powerplant.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yet they announced and implemented a series of power cuts to some regions recently. Russia is trying to focus on more remote targets, to spread UAs AD thin.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They must have hidden them in hospitals, schools and apartment buildings.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>The loss of some Russian refining capacity pushed up domestic prices 20% to 30%
        It warms my heart to know that even if we can't kill every zigger, we can at least make gas unaffordable for most of the frickers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And yet zigger bootlickers don't look at the contrast of a petrol mafia state being unable to supply its fricking civilians with the same petrol and petrol products and think "well maybe things went breasts up and we shouldn't simp for Pidorussia any more"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >And yet zigger bootlickers don't look at the contrast of a petrol mafia state being unable to supply its fricking civilians with the same petrol and petrol products and think "well maybe things went breasts up and we shouldn't simp for Pidorussia any more"
            That's literally me, except it was all the atrocities and needless tactical frickups in the first month of the war that did it for me

            now I root for the grim reaper

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >make gas unaffordable for most of the frickers
          tbf gas is still relatively very cheap for the average Russian and will presumably continue to be very much obtainable and affordable until (if) the state starts rationing it (then it will become obtainable for those who can afford to pay the bribe)
          the important consequence here is the increase in manufacturing costs across all domestic industrial sectors, which has the potential to really frick with the prices of goods and the economy as a whole

          but they should know that ukraine only targets military targets?

          lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >tbf gas is still relatively very cheap for the average Russian and will presumably continue to be very much obtainable and affordable until (if) the state starts rationing it (then it will become obtainable for those who can afford to pay the bribe)
            That's why we hit more refineries.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The loss of some Russian refining capacity pushed up domestic prices 20% to 30% by mid-March.

        Where?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/damaged-refining-capacity-drives-up-russias-gasoline-diesel-prices-2024-03-19/
          In wholesale. The actual consumer cost is unlikely to change much or right away, but increased wholesale cost with the same consumer cost means less buying power

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Russia can also hide the consumer cost with flat out subsidies of one form or another for awhile, but while that can help maintain political support in the short term it's still directly sucking hard capital that then can't be spent on other stuff. Ultimately all the money is fungible, if Ukraine can destroy enough Russian refining capacity it will impact them.

            Which also serves to further underline what fricking bullshit it's been for the US not to support them hitting Russia in 2022 or 2023. You can't fricking win a war with a "hee hee safety zone behind my line you can't hit here only defend". As soon as it became obvious (not that everyone didn't expect it right away but sure give it a few months chance) that the chinks and poos weren't going to cooperate with sanctions for the flagrant violation of international norms then the US should have accepted soft measures weren't going to work. We've seen an over correction. Iraq and Afghanistan were such shit shows and HURR GO IT ALONE so dumb that the US has no swung to the opposite extreme of pure soft power. That won't work vs serious nation-states.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The US has autistically stuck to its "defend only" mentality since Vietnam and it's always failed predictably since. Idk how moronic you have to be to think you can defend an aggressor into submission or that it somehow changes the perception positively

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The US has autistically stuck to its "defend only" mentality since Vietnam
                What? No fricking way were Iraq 2 and Afghanistan "defend only". The problem is they were also done in an extremely moronic way (and Iraq 2 was moronic period). Most people do not and cannot think deeply about fundamentals, they look at results, and the result is they associate "aggressive" with "neocon" and "moronic" so here we are.

                Neither Biden nor Trump are war presidents anyway, they're not the material for that in temperament, habit or ideology. But I also think Ukraine is suffering from the pendulum swing and general bullshit fallout of the GWOT.

                The current administration has been weak on deterrence in general. Indecisive and passive.

                >The current administration
                The last too. Isolationism is back in the vogue after 100-someodd years. There will probably have to be some massive issue associated with it before the public comes around again, if we still can.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm probably a moronic for asking this but what would be the consequences of doing the following:

                >Send out a survey to active/reserves/NG asking if anyone wants to deploy
                >Form volunteer units out of these personnel, send them to Ukraine
                >No soldier that doesn't want to go has to, it's purely volunteer

                This is what I would think about doing with I was president right now. I know the US public is still probably against another war, but I also know a surprising amount of military personnel that were disappointed we pulled out of Afghanistan. At the very least we could send a few adrenaline junkie pilots to do some work over Ukraine.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                depends on a lot of things. not least of which being that if its an American Unit, (as opposed to nominally independent volunteers), it opens up a hornets nest of questions.

                Who is paying them? A lot of the guys who wanted nothing more than to kill russian or help out went already. There may be a large gap between what's offered and what is expected.

                What does their commitment look like and how will it be enforced? Pure volunteer? Are they under the UCMJ or the Ukranian equivalent? If it's the UCMJ that's going to cause problems. If it's pure volunteer that can lead to different problems.

                Who is leading them? American officers / command structure? It's harder to use a unit that doesn't necessarily agree with the orders they're given. Are these guys likely to even tolerate an order they know will get a bunch of them killed for marginal gain (refer again to point 2)

                What supplies are they using? Ammo, food, etc. Does that come from the existing aid package or is there a separate funding source? Americans are going to want to fight like Americans, ie, they're gonna need A LOT of stuff.

                When they get KIA / Captured, who's responsibility is it to repatriate them?

                Who pays their pension/disability/death allowances? US standards are going to be much higher than UKR ones.

                I'm not looking for answers on this. I just want to illustrate that it becomes an incredibly thorny proposal on even the slightest glance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ^This and this kind of escalation is fraught with risk. To own their new nation the locals must to the bleeding. Putin made Ukraine a nation forged in fire.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                G.I.s emotionally invest in all wars and do not really think strategically making many of them slaves to the sunk cost fallacy which in A-stan has sent many invaders to their partial or complete doom.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >We did it before and we can do it again

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Isolationism is back in the vogue
                who could have possibly imagined that 100 years of mockery and insults for "dying for israel" or "dying for oil" or "dying for johnson" by people who think sending you to die for hamas is a fantastic idea would have that effect.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There will probably have to be some massive issue associated with it before the public comes around again, if we still can.
                I'm sure your glowBlack person buddies will invent one for us

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The problem is they were also done in an extremely moronic way

                The problem is they were as strategically absurd as Viet Nam and not required to Mossad OBL. A-stan was to appease the public knowing after a few years many would emotionally invest in the war. Invasion was a strategic mistake but the general public are incapable of understanding war so it was politically necessary while being strategically foolish.

                Iraq was a Pyrrhic victory but a strategic mistake which greatly diverted and weakened US competence, focus and prep for nation-state war (severe neglect of the Navy for example) while both destroyed public respect for senior leadership (and rightly so.)

                All the above proves the US political class does not produce militarily competent leaders younger than the mostly-dead WWII era peeps. Civilians elect those who pander to them which excludes strategic competence.

                Nothing lasting will be learned. Few here were alive in 1975 when Saigon fell and it was generally and passionately-therefore-stupidly believed we'd not do it again.

                Wisdom departed with Powell and Schwarzkopf's generation (Rumsfeld's personal brilliance led to main character syndrome, no introspection and huffing his own farts) so we did it again twice and will in future. I will likely be dead by then but most of you won't so put me in the screencap when it happens.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It's the public's fault neocons decided to invade Afghanistan
                Frick you, wienersucker

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The public is responsible for gleefully electing necons who appoint neocons after which necons do neocon things.

                Why u mad? I accepted the public are idiots many decades ago and there is no evidence to the contrary. Intelligence and curiosity are neuro-divergent. Of course they elected neocons because they don't care about foreign policy and even war beyond "ooh, shiny". The same public ignored A-stan until the actual evacuation and has now (vets excepted) mostly forgotten it just like I saw them do with the Viet Nam war as a lad (I missed that one, enlisting in '81). The public 30 years from now will likewise ignore history and America will do something similar again.

                Adults who understand the American way of war understand inevitable outcomes of leadership whose parent civilian culture can only produce humans inherently inept at choosing then waging constabulary operations. It is inevitable some of those elected will opt for (including opting to be baited into) war at which 9/11 was spectacularly successful beyond OBLs wildest possible fantasies.

                The American people are rustic, even the urbanites, and that profound social ignorance (which may accompany technical or scientific brilliance) has a cost. The American people think at or below the level of their social media which is a perfect mirror now they can express themselves.

                It's better to be bad at foredoomed strategically useless constabulary missions and great at technology and logistics than the opposite, not least because they reduce US casualties to microscopic rates over time. The US has never experienced losses comparable to Russian.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I appreciate your post. Seriously, I wish posts like yours were more common here.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Blaming the hoi polloi leads nowhere, though. Either they're ignorant and shortsighted or they're responsible for their actions... American upper middle class and beyond seem to be happy with the current situation, as it's profitable, all around.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The vote to invade Afghanistan was 98-0 with two Republicans not voting because they were not in Washington DC at the time. Everyone was for the war in Afghanistan, and anyone who says they weren't is lying to you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The problem is they were also done in an extremely moronic way (and Iraq 2 was moronic period). Most people do not and cannot think deeply about fundamentals, they look at results, and the result is they associate "aggressive" with "neocon" and "moronic" so here we are.
                Part of the problem is that if you look at any time in the past, foreign policy elites usually have a shared consensus about something that is just wrong (this is also probably true for their parallels in Russia and China). Like, for years, it was widely believed by these people in Washington that China's economic growth and entering the WTO would change their politics. This was held as an almost mystical belief until Trump came along. George W. Bush thought sharing an enemy in the war on terrorism would lure Putin closer to the West.

                At the same time, there are people in these same systems. Kind of like mid-ranking "deputies" in D.C. who are the real workhorses of national security who sometimes push for politically suboptimal but overall sound policies, who sometimes get overruled, only to find themselves vindicated later by events. There were people in the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations who were like this.

                >Neither Biden nor Trump are war presidents anyway, they're not the material for that in temperament, habit or ideology.
                Biden actually does strike me as more of a cold warrior, which does rule out direct confrontation for containment. I don't think it runs perfectly but Trump doesn't care because it's boring. An advisor brought in to talk about some geopolitical issue would be confused because Trump would just want to talk to the guy for 45 minutes about flying around with women in private planes and how to avoid getting into any trouble with 'em. But either way, the world we live in today is less like the Cold War in that it doesn't have as much to do with ideology but interests, and more reminiscent of earlier phases of geopolitical competition.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >defend only since Vietnam
                Holy fricking moron.
                >Panama, Grenada, Iraq 1, Serbia (do it again) Afghanistan, Iraq 2

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The current administration has been weak on deterrence in general. Indecisive and passive.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I fully get why people in US are fed up with nebulous bullshit wars with dubious allies and enemies that are by their nature hard to eradicate - case in point, Afghanistan, where your local allies are garbage and enemies that are spread through the country like the roots of a mushroom colony. But yeah, it’s maddening to see how hard it leads to overcorrection, because now you’d have a situation with a competent ally (yeah. Ukraine has its share of problems, but god damn they have overperformed in relation to expectations) and a very clear enemy that would be of utmost geopolitical importance to weaken, yet politicians just keep pussy-footing around the war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                All those words and you somehow failed to mention that this isn't the US's war. Either you completely missed this rather salient point - which explains your confusion as to the US' tepidity about it, or you are deliberately avoiding this in the hopes of appealing to the simple-minded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                any war against russia or china is automatically americas war too because those are rival countries

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                sorry to break it to you anon, that line of argument only works on people who already agree with you, which is to say it doesn't work at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >All those words and you somehow failed to mention that this isn't the US's war
                It is a US war for russia, despite what naive morons in the US might think.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It is a US war
                And yet Russia has not declared war against the US, nor has it invaded the US, nor has it even attacked the US. Huh. Almost like it's not actually at war with the US at all, and you're just full of shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, tho iirc there was a dual citizen half by yank aboard MH17. Which makes me wonder how different it’d be if that plane wasn’t shot down.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A Bong kid from my school got killed on that plane, was a very unifying anti Russian shoot down.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                To Russia and China they don't have to do anything of that to fight the US, they only have to fight what they believe are its allied proxy puppets which to them is Ukraine.

                I know that Americans don't have object permanence regarding countries outside the US but Putin can't speak about this war without mentioning the United States and the West. This is for a reason.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >This is for a reason.
                And that reason is he's weak and attempting to explain away his continuing failure to take Ukraine. But that's not remotely equivalent to sinking a carrier fleet or landing the 3rd army at Juneau, no matter how earnestly you wish it were. Get back to me when he's done one of those and I'll happily reconsider my position.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He says he's fighting the US because he fully believes he's fighting the US. I know you're American but he doesn't have to fight the US in actual real terms or in American terms to believe he's fighting the US. There's no cynical, 3d chess coping mechanism or whatever the frick. To Putin he's fighting the US.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he fully believes
                He can believe all he wants, that just makes him delusional. Because he is not - not matter how hard he imagines nor how hard you wish it so - actually fighting against the US in any way that anybody has noticed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I know that Americans don't have object permanence regarding countries outside the US
                We have perfect object permenance, European countries just keep exploding each other for no reason.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's a clear NATO+ vs. China/Russia+ cold war ongoing that could turn into direct military confrontation. Anything that severely weakens/discredits/collapses Russia is good for the US. Pushed hard enough we could even end up with another period like the end of the first cold war, with Russia collapsed into irrelevance and China brought again into close economic cooperation with the West for lack of other good options. The 90s were pretty sweet without the threat of large-scale war, with growing (instead of unraveling) global trade and cooperation, and with the peace dividend.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There's a clear NATO+ vs. China/Russia+ cold war ongoing
                No there isn't.
                There's a clear EU vs Russia cold war ongoing.
                There's a clear US vs China cold war ongoing.
                Conflating the two just to try to get the US involved in the EU one - at the expense of the China one that actually matters to the US - isn't going to work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black person the Russians and Chinese are allies and supporting each other with the same goals, not unlike how the EU and the US are allies... what is this Henry Kissinger homosexualry

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia wants Ukraine
                >China wants Formosa
                >its the same goals guise trust me
                No, I don't think I will.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia banned gasoline exports for six months starting in March, began importing refined product from Belarus, planned to import from Kazakhstan
        Something tells me that importing gas while being a petrol supergiant is a bad sign

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Their cash cow is unrefined exports, they’re not big on refined product.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The reason has NOTHING to do with what /k/ thinks it does. Woody was PROMOTED to secretary of the security council. At worst he was "kicked upstairs". I bet he got tired of bulling through the corrupt bureaucracy trying to implement policies / reforms so he asked Putin to get him out. Woody’s main quality is the political power he has as Putin’s inner circle member. The new guy may be more talented but without Woody’s untouchable political power he won’t be able to resist the bureaucracy and what improvements the military has made under Woody will grind to a halt. Unless Putin assigns this guy a whole section of the FSB to personally prosecute problems he won’t accomplish anything and just get run out like Woody’s predecessor. Notice how massively the Russian military improved since 2022? Now watch as it settles back down into failures. lol maybe Putin himself is at a loss as how to deal with it — this isn’t the USSR where he can just do a general purge of the ranks. I bet Woody was in fact the best choice in the Russian context and if he couldn’t take it who can? Woody runs the security council now so he can still throw weight behind the new guy but he’s not in charge of ordering and managing stuff in the military.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, he's being held prisoner. The prison bars are laced in gold, but it's a prison nonetheless. He's going to be the fall guy once the war is over for how terrible it went once all the difficult questions start being raised.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Woody was PROMOTED to secretary of the security council
        I watched several Russian guys who know quite a bit about Russian politics speak about it. Anyone who thinks Shoigu got promoted is moron, Shoigu went from a guy who had million armed men and 200 billion a year to spent however he liked to some guy who controls nothing directly

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The guy who used to run the security council for 16 years was literally Putin’s #2, Nikolai Patrushev. Now, Kremlin job role does NOT equate to actual power but the post is a very high-level one, higher than just being a minister. MAYBE the move was because Putin didn’t want Woody to have so much power with a gigantically expanded military under him so he shuffled in a trusted administrator without a power base and kicked Woody upstairs while letting Patrushev retire to oligarchy. But I think that’s a basic misunderstanding of Russian elite politics — Putin isn’t Hitler, he’s a power nexus, everyone’s friend whom you go through to make money and get a job, and get security. He’s everyone’s friend and ally, the mob don with all the connections. Lots of morons enjoy projecting cartoon history onto him conflating him with strongman dictators and personality cults of the past.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Now, Kremlin job role does NOT equate to actual power
            This is an important point about Russia. Someone like Patrushev is powerful because he is Patrushev. Not because of a seat he is filling.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Now, Kremlin job role does NOT equate to actual power but the post is a very high-level one, higher than just being a minister.
            No, security council is rubber stamping monkey court.

            > and get security.
            Point: Shoigu's people ("right hand" positions) are arrested right around his resignation.

            >But I think that’s a basic misunderstanding of Russian elite politics — Putin isn’t Hitler, he’s a power nexus
            He was years ago. But after consolidating more power he becomes more and more of absolute autocrat. Ukrainian war itself, and especially prolonged war is consequences of his absolute power. Its suites no one in Russia and if it was collective rule Putin would've been kicked out long ago after war failure, everybody just want to go back to good old times before 2022.

            Now Putin IS strongman dictator, its just his habit and credo was always grey eminence and he simply doesn't know and understand how to act in the shoes of the Louis XIV.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              His background is limiting. It takes something of a royal (if Byazantine) background to rule Asiatics and Putin's background is that of a high level servant who spent the first half of his life being discreet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Putin isn't a strongman dictator
            Yes, that's why he has multiple body doubles, holds public events with a carefully selected bunch of actors that are reused over and over again, distances himself as much as possible from anyone else including his "closest" friends and advisors in person, and trusts the general public enough to not send a private army after the slightest bit of dissent. I can totally see how those are not classic strongman dictator behaviors but instead "everyone's friend who makes all the connections".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Notice how massively the Russian military improved since 2022
        Improved how, exactly? More T-62s and mobike vs less actually semi-modenr gear and professionals?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >. Woody was PROMOTED to secretary of the security council. At worst he was "kicked upstairs".
        No man.
        He was put into honorable retirement (for now). Security counsi lsecretary is token position like security council itself. Its rubber stamping court that exist to approve Putin's decisions to make illusion that Russia is Democracy not Autocracy. But no mistake Russian security council doesn't makes any decisions itself.
        Also very important happening: two Shoigu's former deputies (construction and HR, like most important departments with largest corruption income potential) were arrested with felony charges (bribes). Its unprecedented happening for Shoigu, never before such high ups from his team were arrested. Its clear message: Shoigu's people are free game. And i would be surprised if Shoigu lives on borrowed time himself and something bad happens with him too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shoigu is probably going to be held in that position until he can be scapegoated officially for the failure of the russian armed forces

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ^This. Reading the Kremlin is a very old and informative study.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The real question is if he gets to keep his PMC.
        If he still has his private army he's probably fine, if Putler takes it away you know he's on the verge of getting windowed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Notice how massively the Russian military improved since 2022?
        You moronic or something? You think Shoigu or Putin are against corruption in the military so of course you are.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That’s not the point moron. The point was the Russian military performance and ability to deal with battlefield challenges has DRAMATICALLY improved. In the start of 2022 Russian military readiness was so abysmal that they literally couldn’t complete a road march to Kiev. If the Russian forces of today were to be transported back in time to 2022 they would have easily completed the encirclement of Kiev. The Russian military has been largely unfricked over the past 2 years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > If the Russian forces of today were to be transported back in time to 2022 they would have easily completed the encirclement of Kiev.

            And if the Ukie army would’ve been transported back in time all those Russians would’ve been ATACMSed to death before crossing the border. So what’s your point?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Russian military has been largely fricked over the past 2 years
            fify

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What if, but if, could be, would be.

            All meaningless, they have the man power but lack the material now so it doesn't matter. Every single day this war continues Russia becomes less and less relevant.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I like how we're pretending that going up from zero is a good thing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Northern forces did not have anywhere near the amount of men needed to take or even encircle Kiyv, considering the resistance they experienced.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Russian mobiks has been largely fricked over the past 2 years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            are you serious?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >DRAMATICALLY improved
            >can only conduct extremely limited offensives that achieve frickall for months horrendous losses
            What did he mean by this?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Getting bogged down at the first border town is apparently better then getting bogged down near the capital.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can rename it to Kiev once you've conquered it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Burned threw nearly all "capable" equipment
            > Was forced to restock with unmodernized soviet shit
            > Basically lost the complete invasion force in terms of Numbers
            > Needed Big Daddy Putin and fricking potato Putin from Belarus to stop a coup by state funded mercanaries

            Conclusion?
            He's a pretty cool guy, cause he managed to ship more meat and rusty metal to the frontline without interruption or any significant success.

            Yeah, I'm not following that one anon. The only thing that Russia was able to increase significally, was the number of casuslities.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Notice how massively the Russian military improved since 2022?
        No

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there is a reason shoigu was replaced with an economist
      Reasons might a bit diffrent

      ?si=JHnHutKgBu0jgkP2

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The west also needs to start mass producing these things and give them to Ukraine. Imagine 1000 a month hitting Russian oil/gas stuff.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >BLYAAAAAT
    fricking kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That video was so much fun.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russian AD just keeps getting worse and worse
    what do you mean, their performance is perfectly steady. can't fail to shoot down drones if you don't show up in the first place

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait a moment. Be it 700k or 900k tons refining capacity for gasoline and diesel, that's per month right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's per day.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how russians were celebrating their own lawnmowers

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >h-he's fast

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > 8 thousand drones flying over Moscow. Two more weeks, frens!
    sure thing, bro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Will Russia ever even attempt to intercept these or not?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they shoot/EW hundreds of them every month. but you never hear about that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Very kind of the great bear to be a good sport and let so many drones get through when he could easily swat them from the sky.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >but you never hear about that.
          Maybe because of the several videos in which they strike their targets completely unimpeded, I assume.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because you'd trust a drunk vatnik with heavy AA gun to "guard" a highly flamable facility?
            > completely unimpeded
            yeah, no. the front line is just too long and doesn't have 100% coverage. especially for small stuff

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Those facilities won't remain flammable for long if these attacks continue.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                two more weeks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Circular reasoning. See

                Will Russia ever even attempt to intercept these or not?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yes we do
          you're just living in a social media bubble

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Alright, lets assume you are right. How fricking big is the ukrainan drone production is, if they have the surplus to launch so much drone, that hundreds still reach their destination, assuming russia shoot down 90% of them succesfully? Mind you, this is a side project, drones in the battlefield are the priority.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The huge majority of Ukie drones are produced by volunteer workshops which mass produce them from bulk parts. They say they are aiming for 1 million produced in 2024. The vast majority of these are shot down, EW’d or simply fail to hit anything. Think of drones more as a different kind of artillery — most shots don’t hit anything but the few which do makes it worth it. Now imagine if each shell had a camera; it would make it look like that artillery has a 100% accuracy rate and hides the fact that for each killcam there’s hundreds of failures.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hundreds
          Much, much more than that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Those are small, frontline FPV drones and the sort. There's no stats available on these light aircraft cum suicide drones.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            meanwhile /k/ cheers for a single drone making it through.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm proud of you not typing out /k/ope. I know it took a lot of willpower to not reveal yourself to be an outsider with an agenda.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                thank you, shizoposter

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy frick, all that EW and we still get at least 10 kino drone videos a day

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's why these things being so cheap is well worth it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              that's 0,1% drone efficiency, my dude

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                0,1% is able to kill a thousand of mobik every day on avarage, and destroy 1 to 2 oil refineries a week. Stop giving me a boner man, what could be possible with 100%

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > on average
                math is not your strong side, eh?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                we have 600 death days and 1700 deaths now as a peak. On avarage, its 1k russian dies a day.
                But you are right, thats only combat casuality, illness and injuries are not counted. However, drones have nothing to do with those either, so my point still stands

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The 1700 a day figure is casualties, not killed

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not bother. /k/tards don't understand what a casualty is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, a board about weapons doesnt know what the tourist know. The secret knowledge, the one mainstream media trying to bury
                If only we checked out intel slava Z

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nope, that's a different counter.
                The casualties counter is well over 1 million btw

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The 1700 a day figure is casualties, not killed
                Russian CASEVAC is nonexistent
                If you are RUF, and get wounded, an FPV drone will come to your aid and put you out of your misery.
                The good part? Your death will be captured by another drone and the video uploaded to the internet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I remember watching a video of some (supposedly ‘VDV’ or ‘elite’ but you know how it is) russian troopers assaulting a ukrainian position across an open snowy field, filmed from their perspective. Guys start laying down fire on the ukies and one takes a hit - the cameraman calls for the medic, who crawls over, takes one look at him and just puts a round into his head. Fricking brutal

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lolwut, you have a link?
                I'd like to see that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have the video on my laptop, I’ll see if I can upload it to catbox when I wake up tomorrow morning. Keep an eye out on the board if this thread archives before then.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                TIA. that's too classic not to spread.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian CASEVAC is nonexistent
                It exists in a form of "if you can walk/crawl yourself back to the previous position where EVA unit is, you'll get evacuated" or "if there are people in your unit who are willing to drag you back to the EVA unit while under file from ukies". Needless to say, this happens not too often. Usually a wounded soldier just waits for help and dies either from blood loss or from being finished off.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russians have no CASEVAC so there's no wounded
                Gay, moronic child logic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My brother in christ we're reaching nearly 500k dead or wounded, they're clearly either doing shit ass CASEVAC or not doing it at all

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Those are for frontline fpv drones, the russians have zero AD or EW at these oil refineries

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They intercept/ew thousands of small quadcopters a month. Not these large cruise missile style drones.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is cool, but i miss good old fashioned WW2 carpet bombing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Me too. Long past time Russia's civvies got some skin in the game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >see sonny, back in my day there was no good way to measure how fast a plane was going across the ground without knowing how fast the wind was blowing
      >and jerry wasn't putting up weather balloons for us! he he he
      >so we mostly just had to guess
      >we high altitude daytime precision bombed the shit out of some turnip fields, son

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ah, Ploesti. Now there was a real refinery strike. Not like you kids today and your drones.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >nafo
    hmmmmm, very organic. Only one kind of people like to use that word, its like saying hohol

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >...?
    Holy reddit you're a fricking homosexual.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Vatnik is a mentality, not every russian vatnik, and not every vatnik is russian.
    However you embracing the mindset of them in the U.S labels you as a loser.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >everybody I don't like is a vatnik
      I don't care, you moronic tourist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        T. Tourist vatnik

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If it works it works.
    Would be funny if even facebook is against your kind though lol. Those are the flat earth morons, the kinds I'd assume be the biggest vatnik audience

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So you did get it from normiebook

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if that makes you sleep better. I didnt, but i know you are special, so wont understand it anyway

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do they even have some Gepard Light Flak stuff or only expenisve s-000 ones?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >anonymous source in US military said that Abrams were withdrawn from frontline
    >they still fighting in frontline

    >Americans say that GLSDB failed
    >GLSDB level buildings full of Russians with great precision for the cost of single GMLRS

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes, they sure are losing the Disastrously lose a war you started: Speedrun Challenge to Russia.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >living on the eastern seaboard of the US...
    Changed your pretend-adress again, eh, Indiana vatBlack person.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The lawnmower sound immediately made me think of this

    ?si=YECCtueM-h6PJ-a1

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They need to attach small but loud Stuka sirens that would activate when nearing the target, just to frick with the Russians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was found that Stuka sirens had a detrimental effect most of the time. They did have a huge psychological effect the first few times an individual saw them, but after people got used to them they became a warning system, same with whistles in bombs. They also made the Stuka pilots go insane because they couldn’t turn them off for most of the war but that wouldn’t be a problem here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bruh individual pilots could take em at there own discretion. Halfway into the B-2 version (pre-war) many Stukas came from the factory with out a siren.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Vatniks are not geographically constrained you numb digger. Many Vatnonationalists emigrate to where the money is so they wash up in the West just like their spiritual vatjeet kin.

    The US also has (like any nation) many angry stupid (the anger is projection) backward losers who blame externalities for their own degenerate failure to thrive. That's where all sorts of Commies and (c)ommies come from who then beshit the internet with the passion of a moronic convert.

    I was alive when Soviet subversion took over US academia. I am now amused some of the contrarian right fall for their games, Mike Sparks being an example. Austspergies are so easy to play because they're convinced they're infallible.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    very many of us live in the eastern oblast of new jersey

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Happening right now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't they just hit some place with 80 UAVs yesterday?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          cute

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe this is going to be a weak of drone swarms, maybe this is just going to be the standard thing and the Russian's are just going to have to accept hundreds of drones fling about their country with impunity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mein monke....... the crests are sending another drone swarm.......

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TEMPO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >As you can see from this twitter post Uncle Vald will be buying your pony 5 million friends next month

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine porking that pork while papa Kim Ping Pong pun watches

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Hzl4Hw5.png

      Lights out. The rest of crimea joining sevastopol.

      https://i.imgur.com/Ssl5Xy2.png

      Eggsplosions in occupied Viipuri.

      https://i.imgur.com/OCwAbAb.jpeg

      >80 UAV/day
      >Ukrainian Sharks outspam Russian Shakheeds
      The tide is turning. It's the beginning of the end. Soon the F-16 will suppress the remaining AA assets and the bear will fall.

      POV: Watching the people who mocked you for spending half a century building up and maintaining a national network of 1000+ AA gun batteries getting blasted by glorified 1920s aircraft.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eating dino nuggets while UAVs blow up Crimea kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Air defence looking a bit vulnerable.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Comfy ambience.
    https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1791954064034365915/video/1

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love this sound so much its unreal.
    https://pixeldrain com/u/oZV7QVMx

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are sending another swarm right now.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lights out. The rest of crimea joining sevastopol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      suffer in agony, ziggers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >some kind of a loophole

      They don’t know there’s no Air Defense lmaooooo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the governor just got an alert in his cart
      This is why you put your shopping carts away and not out in the parking lot, folks.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eggsplosions in occupied Viipuri.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These air raids are getting massive, huge explosions in large quantities.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >80 UAV/day
    >Ukrainian Sharks outspam Russian Shakheeds
    The tide is turning. It's the beginning of the end. Soon the F-16 will suppress the remaining AA assets and the bear will fall.

  31. 1 month ago
    I think .17hmr is really cool

    How cheap are these? They're rolling in money, just buy a stupid amount of these and ZERG RUSH every Russian in Ukrainian land with them. It'd be funny.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pyrothechnic clap occured in the oil depot*~~)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Vyborg
      Meinten Sie: Viipuri

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this is what Viipuri looks after 80 years of r*ssian occupation
        >r*ssian shills tell how r*ssia will rebuild cities they razed

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/sHgSQc5.jpeg

          https://i.imgur.com/KxLeITH.jpeg

          https://i.imgur.com/dueSGgI.jpeg

          so this is the power of the multipolar world

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Empires have spheres of influence. Russia has a bubble of neglect.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this fricking war gonna end sometime soon? It's already been 3 years. Shit's gonna last longer than WW1 at this point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a complete re-ordering of global hegemony takes time anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >complete balkanization of a 'regional power' takes time
        ftfy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The first innings of the Cold War took (many) decades. It's not over. Hollywood movie attention spans are insufficient.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If only the tsar knew how bad things really are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Directly on the sidewalk
      >One that's on a slope at that
      The frick is this shitty work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think there might be a grate beneath.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >80 more years, ziggerbros

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/pRsQ041.jpeg

      https://i.imgur.com/kyBA5Qd.jpeg

      Its kinda impressive that houses bombed by soviets are still in ruins in the middle of the city.

      Want to make a Finn weep? Show them photos of Vyborg today.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you know that Viipuri has P-O-T-E-M-K-I-N houses?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even the Potemkin covers look like shitholes.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its kinda impressive that houses bombed by soviets are still in ruins in the middle of the city.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's rustic, rugged masculine working realism to remember the glorious work of the liberator grandfathers unlike what would be done by the fascist imperialist colonialist reactionary racist zionist sexist voluntarist capitalist homosexualist catholicist individualist decadentist West and its slave master Amerikkka that lynches Blacks and has trannies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        WTF? Is Nikita copping a feel?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >18
        That is by far the highest number of propaganda adjectives used in a single sentence. Congrats, man. Take a bow.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol ukranians be losing front, but still sending drones to bomb some oil refineries or civillians. Truly a subhuman race who just wishes to destroy, even their own people

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes exactly.
      They untameable, Russia should just leave them for the EU as Ukraine will always bite the hand that feeds them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your bait is weak, but here is a you to make you feel good in whatever hole you live in. Must be sad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes exactly.
      They untameable, Russia should just leave them for the EU as Ukraine will always bite the hand that feeds them.

      Stop samegayging and join your "comrades" rotting in forgotten villages.

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