>wow cool plane
Exactly. Its cool, therefore it would inspire young leafs to also make cool things at home, instead of just leaving for somewhere else and brain draining the country.
the death of the arrow was the death of the domestic aerospace defense industry in Canada. yes it was too big, yes it was outdated before it even got off the ground, yes it was a money pit but it was a plane we made, it was our plane goddamnit! the death of that plane was the signal that we would forever be Uncle Sam's b***h when it came to aircraft procurment from now until they make our 51st statehood offical
Canada is tiny and oppressed because it chose Crown rule so what's there to be proud of? It's perfectly fine not to have an identity and given Canadian choices to be invaded by Asia no one cares anyway. A fighter wouldn't change that as no competitive aerospace industry was more than a dream due to GDP and population.
Be happy Canada has no need for armed forces beyond fishery patrols. It saves gobs of money.
I can't believe how utterly ass blasted some people in Canada can be about the jet being canceled. And further how some just continue to believe it would be so good that it was gonna 'leave the USAF in the stone age'. >there's even an "animated" series on youtube made by some canadian boomer >entire premise being that the jet was built by old staff of the program and has the cf-105 defeating f-22s, mig-31s & tu-160s
Canada's state mandated national pride was a hell of a thing. So many fricking myths about this thing pervade discourse around it here even today. Boomers will talk about how it was the best plane ever built, "woulda made canada the aviation mecca of the world" type shit. A lot of them get very defensive when you tell them it was just a pretty neat plane that went really fast in a straight line and not much else.
I want to jerk off to an alternate reality where Canada developped a light day-fighter, something like a Mirage, instead of the useless, gigantic, inefficient Arrow.
Well, yeah, the later F-5 and its cihldren are good, I guess. But I mean something Mirage-like as in it has a radar in the late 50s despite being a day fighter.
It's a far-fetched scenario, but I could imagine some nice export sales for such a fighter - just as Mirage had.
Again, Mirage-type thing, not a light attack trainer.
https://i.imgur.com/xHZ9Xsn.jpg
Is it cool?
Yes. It's like a Scorpion if the Scorpion was made by bongs. It's great.
>Calls it the Ching-Kuo >Not the F-CK-1
Pathetic.
I could say F-JG-1, if I wanted to,and what would happen then?
https://i.imgur.com/tumF2No.jpg
For the role it was made for it would've been fine, if the canuck politicians not fricked over the development by canceling it to go spend money on and army they didn't have (and fricking over an entire sector of their economy). No it wouldn't have been good for any other role, and no one really thinks that, but everyone was building big dumb interceptors like this in the 50s and wouldn't really fully stop building interceptors as a specific separate type of aircraft until the 70s. Furthermore I find it rich people shit on the canucks for this one plane, when no one ever points out how we had the Dart, the Dagger, the Skylance, and the Skyray, and since I feel just a bit passive aggressive this morning, the Voodoo and Starfighter, most of which were big dumb interceptors and all of which had a hilariously small payload, with only starfighter really managing to be used for anything else from my recollection.
Let the canucks have the dumb memeplane, what else do they have?
Of the aircraft you listed, all came before the Arrow, except for the Dart, which was also better in most ways and would cost a hell of a lot less.
Even before the shitstain that was the Arrow leafs were building big dumb interceptors anyway with the Canuck. It's just such a shame that I wish there'd been somethinge else.
>Even before the shitstain that was the Arrow leafs were building big dumb interceptors anyway with the Canuck. It's just such a shame that I wish there'd been somethinge else.
So, are you just upset that the canucks didn't build anything else, or that the Arrow doomed the company and canuck aerospace design as a whole?
For the role it was made for it would've been fine, if the canuck politicians not fricked over the development by canceling it to go spend money on and army they didn't have (and fricking over an entire sector of their economy). No it wouldn't have been good for any other role, and no one really thinks that, but everyone was building big dumb interceptors like this in the 50s and wouldn't really fully stop building interceptors as a specific separate type of aircraft until the 70s. Furthermore I find it rich people shit on the canucks for this one plane, when no one ever points out how we had the Dart, the Dagger, the Skylance, and the Skyray, and since I feel just a bit passive aggressive this morning, the Voodoo and Starfighter, most of which were big dumb interceptors and all of which had a hilariously small payload, with only starfighter really managing to be used for anything else from my recollection.
Let the canucks have the dumb memeplane, what else do they have?
>Furthermore I find it rich people shit on the canucks for this one plane, when no one ever points out how we had the Dart, the Dagger, the Skylance, and the Skyray, and since I feel just a bit passive aggressive this morning, the Voodoo and Starfighter, most of which were big dumb interceptors and all of which had a hilariously small payload, with only starfighter really managing to be used for anything else from my recollection.
Yeah, and they all got replaced by the Phantom, which first flew in the same year as the Arrow.
>Made by chad Leafs instead of gay Proto-Globohomosexual bongs >Probably better than the Comet >At the very least had fricking round windows and engines not buried in the wing root in a sexy but aerodynamically bad way that were easier to access for service >Maiden flight was only two weeks later and lost out on the hype train the Comet rode on
What a shame.
Should have been cancelled earlier.
Soviets were so deep into the program they were checking the revisions before they were even submitted.
whatever. still basically the ultimate chads of civil aviation
Not having a horse in the military production game is probably why Canada's done so well with civilian aviation production.
>wow cool plane
Exactly. Its cool, therefore it would inspire young leafs to also make cool things at home, instead of just leaving for somewhere else and brain draining the country.
the death of the arrow was the death of the domestic aerospace defense industry in Canada. yes it was too big, yes it was outdated before it even got off the ground, yes it was a money pit but it was a plane we made, it was our plane goddamnit! the death of that plane was the signal that we would forever be Uncle Sam's b***h when it came to aircraft procurment from now until they make our 51st statehood offical
no way. no one wants to annex canada
we dont need more chinese sleepers
Canada is tiny and oppressed because it chose Crown rule so what's there to be proud of? It's perfectly fine not to have an identity and given Canadian choices to be invaded by Asia no one cares anyway. A fighter wouldn't change that as no competitive aerospace industry was more than a dream due to GDP and population.
Be happy Canada has no need for armed forces beyond fishery patrols. It saves gobs of money.
I can't believe how utterly ass blasted some people in Canada can be about the jet being canceled. And further how some just continue to believe it would be so good that it was gonna 'leave the USAF in the stone age'.
>there's even an "animated" series on youtube made by some canadian boomer
>entire premise being that the jet was built by old staff of the program and has the cf-105 defeating f-22s, mig-31s & tu-160s
>so good that it was gonna 'leave the USAF in the stone age
>Gets raped by the F-108 Rapier
lol the delusions of Canadians
Canada's state mandated national pride was a hell of a thing. So many fricking myths about this thing pervade discourse around it here even today. Boomers will talk about how it was the best plane ever built, "woulda made canada the aviation mecca of the world" type shit. A lot of them get very defensive when you tell them it was just a pretty neat plane that went really fast in a straight line and not much else.
You could replace the plane with a Bradley and keep the arrows and you’d have the same argument as any moron reformer.
>tfw you remember Chuck is gone
The pain will never leave, but neither will the happiness he's given either
God Bless Chuck Yeager
americlaps live inside an echochamber
Yaeger outlived the Arrow leafBlack person.
Faulty reasoning. You must be British
the 106 looked better in every way.
But it's so pretty.
I want to jerk off to an alternate reality where Canada developped a light day-fighter, something like a Mirage, instead of the useless, gigantic, inefficient Arrow.
Imagine if they picked up and completed the Lavi program instead of Israel selling the information to China.
In my eyes the LAvi is kind of the same sort of thing as the Ching-Kuo. It isn't so unique.
On ther other hand the USAF was not a nice day light-ish fighter for its own use except for f-5, but f-5 is shit anyway
I mean Yaeger did endorse the F-20 and we wouldn't need the FA-50 in the world if they had just developed that as the light fighter-trainer.
Well, yeah, the later F-5 and its cihldren are good, I guess. But I mean something Mirage-like as in it has a radar in the late 50s despite being a day fighter.
It's a far-fetched scenario, but I could imagine some nice export sales for such a fighter - just as Mirage had.
>Calls it the Ching-Kuo
>Not the F-CK-1
Pathetic.
But they did...
Again, Mirage-type thing, not a light attack trainer.
Yes. It's like a Scorpion if the Scorpion was made by bongs. It's great.
I could say F-JG-1, if I wanted to,and what would happen then?
Of the aircraft you listed, all came before the Arrow, except for the Dart, which was also better in most ways and would cost a hell of a lot less.
Even before the shitstain that was the Arrow leafs were building big dumb interceptors anyway with the Canuck. It's just such a shame that I wish there'd been somethinge else.
>Even before the shitstain that was the Arrow leafs were building big dumb interceptors anyway with the Canuck. It's just such a shame that I wish there'd been somethinge else.
So, are you just upset that the canucks didn't build anything else, or that the Arrow doomed the company and canuck aerospace design as a whole?
Wait are you a leaf, genuine question.
Yes, leaf.
I hate that this country threw everything into useless interceptors, the Canuck being worse than the Voodoo and the Arrow the Dart.
Should have spent energy on an indigenous replacement for the CL-13s.
i just think it looks ugly
Is it cool?
For the role it was made for it would've been fine, if the canuck politicians not fricked over the development by canceling it to go spend money on and army they didn't have (and fricking over an entire sector of their economy). No it wouldn't have been good for any other role, and no one really thinks that, but everyone was building big dumb interceptors like this in the 50s and wouldn't really fully stop building interceptors as a specific separate type of aircraft until the 70s. Furthermore I find it rich people shit on the canucks for this one plane, when no one ever points out how we had the Dart, the Dagger, the Skylance, and the Skyray, and since I feel just a bit passive aggressive this morning, the Voodoo and Starfighter, most of which were big dumb interceptors and all of which had a hilariously small payload, with only starfighter really managing to be used for anything else from my recollection.
Let the canucks have the dumb memeplane, what else do they have?
>Furthermore I find it rich people shit on the canucks for this one plane, when no one ever points out how we had the Dart, the Dagger, the Skylance, and the Skyray, and since I feel just a bit passive aggressive this morning, the Voodoo and Starfighter, most of which were big dumb interceptors and all of which had a hilariously small payload, with only starfighter really managing to be used for anything else from my recollection.
Yeah, and they all got replaced by the Phantom, which first flew in the same year as the Arrow.
A Phantom with Iroquois engines would have been one hell of a ride. We could even try that today.
All these morons needed to do was partner with a US company.
A bad F-106 is still better than the best F-35.
Better at what, precisely?
I'll grant the lovely roar of the afterburner which was never captured even close to well on audio because dynamic range.
>Made by chad Leafs instead of gay Proto-Globohomosexual bongs
>Probably better than the Comet
>At the very least had fricking round windows and engines not buried in the wing root in a sexy but aerodynamically bad way that were easier to access for service
>Maiden flight was only two weeks later and lost out on the hype train the Comet rode on
What a shame.
Floyd is still more bitter about that one than about the Arrow.
MiG-25 is still my favorite interceptor. And this book is amazing. Belenko is based.