It seems like xoxolian ukrofascists have managed to establish the permanent presence on the left bank of the Dnieper. What are the tactical and strategic implications of this?
It seems like xoxolian ukrofascists have managed to establish the permanent presence on the left bank of the Dnieper.
nothing much really
russians would not react since they already have their strategic reserves deployed elsewhere and ukies won't develop it much since throwing whole mechanized brigade over the river would be pain in the ass and risky
I am pretty sure ukies will attempt bringing armor over the river
theres no other reason to invest resources into getting control over the antonovsky bridge if all you want is to just smuggle in saboteurs and harrass russian positions
Ukies will probably use whats left of the antonovsky bridge as cover for their pontooning attempt
no clue if it would be succesful though
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The point would be trying to convince Russians you actually want to do that to tie up some forces there.
yeah but the most unexpected thing is to actually do it
ukies dont even need to send good armor across the river to achieve significant
just some old soviet MBTs and IFVs like maybe 12 vehicles max
>to achieve significant
to achieve significant success*
This. The Ukranians failed at their attempt to do an armored attack over land, only an absolute retard would then try to do so across a river.
Post robotnik thirdie
>Post robotnik thirdie
do you have the actual historical revanchist map of Ukraine?
Is this still on that dachi village from like january?
Yeah. The one where they built the huge bunker under the bridge.
Diverts defenders from the frontlines, as having a lodgement would allow reconnaisance of obstacles requiring clearing as part of a crossing operation, so ignoring it is an outsized risk. Before the d-day landings SF parties were dropped to recon the beaches, that's what these groups will be doing regardless of actual intent to imminently cross. If I was Ukraine I'd be using these guys to keep the door open for if there's a hard winter and the dnieper freezes allowing a wider crossing - they're now in control of all the upstream reservoirs so can control the flow to their advantage.
That bridgehead has been there for a while actually, like a month
If they can't move armor and supplies across consistently and reliably then it doesn't matter.
war crime
>new and bigger mobilization
Why would Russia punish it's own citizens for Ukrainian war crimes like this?
because that's what they deserve and if they disagree with garden gnometin they will get either prigozhin'd or girkin'd
despite all my rage
Wow that's Girkin? Wild seeing him locked up... by Russia no less? They killed the Donetsk/Luhansk rebel leadership, then Prigozhin, now arrested Girkin. Who needs Ukraine when Russia takes care of Ukraine's enemies for them?
>They killed (...) Prigozhin
even funnier he was arrested on wagner request
The Vatnik circle of life.
>yfw you are responsinble for shooting down an airliner with hundreds on board, but you are going to jail for saying that tsar is retarded
Jesus, I almost feel sorry for the fucker. They've reduced him to a zoo animal. Death would be preferable to this.
Total Zigger Death.
Muscovia Delenda Est.
>They've reduced him to a zoo animal.
Not quite, but let's not lose hope yet.
The other thread about eating a mouse is about this bridgehead. The Russian forces are under strict orders to ONLy fire 8 shells a day at it since they have to conserve ammo. Russia is not taking the bait and is doing the bare minimum to counter and contain it.
>If you manage to beat us on the battlefield we will torture and massacre some random civilans.
2nd army of the world. Saviours of the white race.
If things were so threadbare on the Kherson front wouldn't the Ukies force the river somewhere? I assume this is when the river at its lowest.
Same shit as their raids into Russia. They're hoping to stir shit up so Russia over-reacts and diverts forces to Kherson region. This tactic is so obvious that even Russia isn't falling for it. Ukraine's diversion attacks have been pretty lame.
So they should just call the bluff and send a real force and start throwing armor in there.
>send a real force and start throwing armor in there.
How? How would you reliably supply them?
tunnels.
you poke the bear? you want nuclear war because that's how you get nuclear war, etc, etc
we got it Pajeet, now be quiet
Sources? Proofs?
The video isn't hard to find. NOEL posted it if you really care.
As far as proofs of it being where it is claimed to be, it has been geolocated form the video.
The point of the flag raising is symbolic; to raise the threat of a significant effort by Ukrainians in that area as a possibility. Same as it has always been, really, except now the Ukrainians are leaning even harder into it.
They want it to be known as a problem. One that needs men and material to stop. For Russia, that means pulling resources from elsewhere. Ideally, this can be done without Ukraine itself committing too much for the bluff.
>but what if it isn't just a bluff
now you're thinking
If russians keep ignoring it, ukies can use this area as a staging ground for diversionary and sabotage operations. I don't think they'll use it as a beachhead for a full scale attack across the Dnipro.
>Any significant breakthrough will be met with escalation.
So based on Kharkiv and Kherson, a series of ineffectual chimpouts against civilian infrastructure. Got it.
>Expect a new and bigger mobilization.
Even more poorly-trained cannon fodder, armed with progressively shittier mid-century Soviet gear? If I was the AFU, I'd take those odds.
>If hohols keep pushing then the nuclear taboo might be broken.
The U.S. "might" send F-22s and F-35s to secure air dominance, too. I'm not holding my breath on either.
>Of course on a smaller scale punishments are performed, think of Bucha and Irpin but then even better.
Yup, thirdie regional powers in a nutshell: threatening further torture and murder of innocent civilians, as a tacit admission that their army is so pathetic it can't succeed on the battlefield against a much smaller nation. Just another sniveling bully who got a bloody nose and now seeks to torment someone even weaker than their first target, absolute human garbage.
Picrel.
Yea, i think it's just a propaganda raid to raise that flag take a photo and gtfo. Both sides have been doing it since this war started.
>xoxolian ukrofascists
t. Borisov
Netherlands GDP>Russia GDP
end of discussion
Dutch GDP is largely consumed by Dutch citizens privately to improve their quality of life.
Russian GDP is largely derived from state controled industries and is directed towards the ends of the state.
Hence the Netherlands produces a lot of happiness and freedom. Russia produces a lot of influence and control. Not really comparable on a dollar for dollar basis.
>LMAO at F22 and F35, as if hohols are capable of flying something like that
Americans would be ones flying them of course. Depending on how much "better" new bucha would be we might or might not bother with with painting blue-yellow on them.
>BRICS gdp > G7 gdp
lmao i don't see any brazilians on the front line in robotyne... why is that? And why has russia completely given up on making forward progress into ukraine, even those regions they claim they now control in the east? Are they waiting for military support from their BRICS allies?
zoom out
Yeah, the map is clearly broken, when I zoom out it says Kherson city is controlled by Ukraine, but russia told me it was Russia forever.
The asshole clenches and then the kotel will be closed and the HATO will be like pelmeni in babushkas apron pouch.