imagine seeing the war right now and still thinking that Infantry is going to play any major role in war outside being glorified cops in the next 200 years.
Yes...are WE? This war is serving the same purpose as the world wars did. As part of the military industrial complex and the annihilation of all the strong and brave military age males of those two nations. It doesn't have to be the meat grinder that it's turned into. It's designed to be a useless meat grinder.
It'll just be camouflaged dudes with laptops hiding in the dirt and slowly creeping forward while beaming commands to their personal fleet of dozens of drones.
Every spectrum will be jammed so a human operator nearby is necessary. They use tightwaved audio pulses, beamed light and other unconventional non-radio techniques to send short commands that the drones simple onboard AI will autonomously carry out.
Every communication channel will be swarming with AI the minute any conflict breaks out, complex enough to vocally impersonate individual commanders and soldiers while issuing faulty reports or orders.
>Every communication channel will be swarming with AI the minute any conflict breaks out, complex enough to vocally impersonate individual commanders and soldiers while issuing faulty reports or orders.
This is a really cool idea. >AI warfare is highly complex game theory that involves calculating the orders enemy AIs are generating, which troops are likely to believe them, and crafting a message to target the troops those troops will likely blunder into >your message must be convincing to that specific group of troops, flawed enough to offer your own troops an advantage, but solid enough to be convincing
>military-grade personality suites are often used to make waifus- err, virtual lifestyle companions
Although, I can see processors getting small and powerful enough for some sort of limited AI to inhabit just about any kind of drone. There would be a sort of drone ecosystem in any contested area. From tiny bird-sized drones at ground level up to massive tankers, bombers and surveillance drones high in the atmosphere. So you could see a swarm of, say, 10,000 tiny drones the size of sparrows inhabit a city and basically cripple the place. You could turn the area into a giant, 3D minefield. Only the mines are smart and communicating with each other. So you might get away from one, but the swarm would know where you were and it would just flank you with another drone. These things could even use chemosensors to sniff out whatever you wanted them to. Explosives, urine, electronics even. You could set them to follow the smell of medical adhesive and root out an enemy field hospital in a subway system. Or, you could just set a few to sniff out urine and send them after latrines. You could basically deny any piece of land you wanted and when your swarm ran low, you could just launch more of the things into the area.
>infantry squads are dispersed across almost a mile each to force the enemy to cover as much ground with drones as possible >each infantryman has a thorium-reactor powered suit >with the exception of the chestplate and the backplate, the suits are only armored approximately to NIJ lvl4, but provide a complete atmospheric seal >soldiers are used essentially as forward control nodes for drone swarms >suits are free-space optical communication enabled to avoid jamming and detection >communications to drones or allies out of line of sight are handled by tasking one drone as a FSO relay >radio communications are entirely ineffective due to pervasive EWAR >infantrymen are armed with a weapon chambered in a polymer-cased, telescoped, .22 caliber saboted tungsten dart >the weapon has a muzzle velocity of 4k+fps and has a form factor reminiscent of a PDW >it is considered a sidearm. The infantryman's command and control systems for his drone swarm is his primary weapon.
>Every communication channel will be swarming with AI the minute any conflict breaks out, complex enough to vocally impersonate individual commanders and soldiers while issuing faulty reports or orders.
This is a really cool idea. >AI warfare is highly complex game theory that involves calculating the orders enemy AIs are generating, which troops are likely to believe them, and crafting a message to target the troops those troops will likely blunder into >your message must be convincing to that specific group of troops, flawed enough to offer your own troops an advantage, but solid enough to be convincing
>military-grade personality suites are often used to make waifus- err, virtual lifestyle companions
>year 2755 >North American federation still uses a battle rifle chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO >all soldiers have Microsoft developed hololense implants, standard since 2040 >rail guns are standardized on tanks >medium earth and geostationary orbit it too polluted for satellite weapons >moon base is used as a MAD deterrent to lob tungsten rods at earth if wars break out between china and america >military tech stagnated around 2100 due to physics limits on battery and processor technology >very limited space drone warfare, but too expensive to do anything really >due to limits of material science space elevators are a still long off pipe dream, rockets are king >global population stabilized at 11 billion, then collapsed to 3 billion after running out of phosphorus >poor countries are pre industrial, west is OK
A drone control supplied by the lowest bidder and an uncomfortable chair, in a poorly air conditioned room full of other people in uncomfortable chairs with equally shitty drone controls.
It's gonna be low orbit warfare. Earth surface wars will be pretty much abandoned due to the advancements on the satellite and low orbit weaponry. Lose control of space and you can give up your nation.
High-tech aircrafts, missiles, and swarms of drones on the air will be no match to low orbit ion cannon, and so on. So you instead bring those in low orbit space.
>fast powered exoskeleton frame >miniaturized APS system built into frame >powerful large caliber EM assisted guns and a ton of ammo, usually in a linkless belt feeder >long lasting powerful batteries or supercapacitors >easy charge ports that can also hook up to vehicles for a fast ride >built in first aid systems >armor plating attached to frame, various designs for different roles
I expect something the Tom Cruise Edge of Tomorrow movie's exo to be outdated and overly bulky by comparison >adaptive camo uniform >loyal wingman infantry equivalent >multifunction HUD with IFF in a level IV full head helmet >augmented reality video game style aiming with a crosshair or target dot displayed to the shooter >traditional sights will still be present as backups >individual cooling systems integrated into base uniform to keep a soldier's body temp regulated >programmable rolling and flying drone grenades
laser rifles
the be-all end-all of all direct fire weapons
payload travelling at the speed of light with no discernable drop allowing to engage target at the horizon
adjustable fire-rate and and energy consumption per shot, allowing to save on batterie depending on the kind of target engaged (armored vs unarmored, anti-material, etc)
no recoil, accurate enough to engage targets on the moon assuming you have the optic and the mount for it.
as the idea guy and the first person to think of this very original idea I will receive 5% of future sales. Patent pending.
If any of you truly believe we will get to a point where giving some dude a rifle and a backpack and pointing him towards the people you want dead is no longer the most cost effective option for warfighting, I've got some oceanfront property in arizona to sell you.
The rigors of combat will always mean machinery will break down quickly. What do you think is more expensive to replenish- an army of drone soldiers costing about the same as an F35, or an army of men with a combat load? Some mfs watch too much fucking anime I swear to god.
Haha yeah. And people think one day computers won't be $35,000 giant machines that take up an entire room to do simple calculator work. There's nerds out there that actually believe one day we'll have tiny super computers worth 300 to 1000 dollars that can work as cameras, cell phones, and calculators. They read too many Comic books.
>infantryman
It's literally all just drones fighting drones at this point. Or drones murdering villagers still armed with AKs
Then who's going to go out and turn it off and then on again?
yeah, but short range drone commanders will be renamed to infantry
Wrong. Everything exists to support the basic infantryman and their rifle.
imagine seeing the war right now and still thinking that Infantry is going to play any major role in war outside being glorified cops in the next 200 years.
are we watching the same war?
Yes...are WE? This war is serving the same purpose as the world wars did. As part of the military industrial complex and the annihilation of all the strong and brave military age males of those two nations. It doesn't have to be the meat grinder that it's turned into. It's designed to be a useless meat grinder.
>year 2200
Did Russia took Bakhmut?
What the hell is a "Russia"?
we say eurasian wasteland now, dont we?
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exoskeleton heavy infantry with handheld m2 50cals on stabilizer arms
1911s
It'll just be camouflaged dudes with laptops hiding in the dirt and slowly creeping forward while beaming commands to their personal fleet of dozens of drones.
Every spectrum will be jammed so a human operator nearby is necessary. They use tightwaved audio pulses, beamed light and other unconventional non-radio techniques to send short commands that the drones simple onboard AI will autonomously carry out.
Every communication channel will be swarming with AI the minute any conflict breaks out, complex enough to vocally impersonate individual commanders and soldiers while issuing faulty reports or orders.
>Every communication channel will be swarming with AI the minute any conflict breaks out, complex enough to vocally impersonate individual commanders and soldiers while issuing faulty reports or orders.
This is a really cool idea.
>AI warfare is highly complex game theory that involves calculating the orders enemy AIs are generating, which troops are likely to believe them, and crafting a message to target the troops those troops will likely blunder into
>your message must be convincing to that specific group of troops, flawed enough to offer your own troops an advantage, but solid enough to be convincing
>military-grade personality suites are often used to make waifus- err, virtual lifestyle companions
This shit right here.
Although, I can see processors getting small and powerful enough for some sort of limited AI to inhabit just about any kind of drone. There would be a sort of drone ecosystem in any contested area. From tiny bird-sized drones at ground level up to massive tankers, bombers and surveillance drones high in the atmosphere. So you could see a swarm of, say, 10,000 tiny drones the size of sparrows inhabit a city and basically cripple the place. You could turn the area into a giant, 3D minefield. Only the mines are smart and communicating with each other. So you might get away from one, but the swarm would know where you were and it would just flank you with another drone. These things could even use chemosensors to sniff out whatever you wanted them to. Explosives, urine, electronics even. You could set them to follow the smell of medical adhesive and root out an enemy field hospital in a subway system. Or, you could just set a few to sniff out urine and send them after latrines. You could basically deny any piece of land you wanted and when your swarm ran low, you could just launch more of the things into the area.
Ding ding Ding
These anons get it.
The real question is what property inventories are like in the future
God awful. Every single change of command inventory takes 2 months.
They'll just make AI do it
M4A69 of course, also the M2 is still in service
>M2 is still in service
I remember a post where an anon wrote a scifi story about using the M2 on Mars.
Pretty kino, tbh.
And probably accurate.
Nothing, humanity has been extinct for a few decades now and the nations with them.
>I don't know what weapons they will use in WWII, but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. - Albert Einstein
War, war never changes.
>year 2755
>North American federation still uses a battle rifle chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO
>all soldiers have Microsoft developed hololense implants, standard since 2040
>rail guns are standardized on tanks
>medium earth and geostationary orbit it too polluted for satellite weapons
>moon base is used as a MAD deterrent to lob tungsten rods at earth if wars break out between china and america
>military tech stagnated around 2100 due to physics limits on battery and processor technology
>very limited space drone warfare, but too expensive to do anything really
>due to limits of material science space elevators are a still long off pipe dream, rockets are king
>global population stabilized at 11 billion, then collapsed to 3 billion after running out of phosphorus
>poor countries are pre industrial, west is OK
We could have been in a world of poisonous gas and controlled insect swarms but we are so unimaginative we still rootn n shootn.
A drone control supplied by the lowest bidder and an uncomfortable chair, in a poorly air conditioned room full of other people in uncomfortable chairs with equally shitty drone controls.
Directed Electrical Energy Rifles.
They use lasers to direct electrical pulses I to a target.
Fear the DEER.
Too much greenling on that cannon
There will be no more infantrymen.
There won't be any more civilization. We're going to get Great Filtered by morons.
Spears and axes made of scrap, bows and arrows, maybe black powder muskets in some rich enclaves of civilization.
It's gonna be low orbit warfare. Earth surface wars will be pretty much abandoned due to the advancements on the satellite and low orbit weaponry. Lose control of space and you can give up your nation.
High-tech aircrafts, missiles, and swarms of drones on the air will be no match to low orbit ion cannon, and so on. So you instead bring those in low orbit space.
sticks and stones since words are ineffective
>fast powered exoskeleton frame
>miniaturized APS system built into frame
>powerful large caliber EM assisted guns and a ton of ammo, usually in a linkless belt feeder
>long lasting powerful batteries or supercapacitors
>easy charge ports that can also hook up to vehicles for a fast ride
>built in first aid systems
>armor plating attached to frame, various designs for different roles
I expect something the Tom Cruise Edge of Tomorrow movie's exo to be outdated and overly bulky by comparison
>adaptive camo uniform
>loyal wingman infantry equivalent
>multifunction HUD with IFF in a level IV full head helmet
>augmented reality video game style aiming with a crosshair or target dot displayed to the shooter
>traditional sights will still be present as backups
>individual cooling systems integrated into base uniform to keep a soldier's body temp regulated
>programmable rolling and flying drone grenades
The average soldier will get a machete and the elite soldier will get a bow and arrows.
laser rifles
the be-all end-all of all direct fire weapons
payload travelling at the speed of light with no discernable drop allowing to engage target at the horizon
adjustable fire-rate and and energy consumption per shot, allowing to save on batterie depending on the kind of target engaged (armored vs unarmored, anti-material, etc)
no recoil, accurate enough to engage targets on the moon assuming you have the optic and the mount for it.
as the idea guy and the first person to think of this very original idea I will receive 5% of future sales. Patent pending.
If any of you truly believe we will get to a point where giving some dude a rifle and a backpack and pointing him towards the people you want dead is no longer the most cost effective option for warfighting, I've got some oceanfront property in arizona to sell you.
The rigors of combat will always mean machinery will break down quickly. What do you think is more expensive to replenish- an army of drone soldiers costing about the same as an F35, or an army of men with a combat load? Some mfs watch too much fucking anime I swear to god.
I bet you think the reformers were right too.
Haha yeah. And people think one day computers won't be $35,000 giant machines that take up an entire room to do simple calculator work. There's nerds out there that actually believe one day we'll have tiny super computers worth 300 to 1000 dollars that can work as cameras, cell phones, and calculators. They read too many Comic books.
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M4s but this new rifle will totally replace it you guys!