>t. China/India dicksucker
Pakistan is a China dicksucker.
In the late 2010s when the wider public were just beginning to talk about Uyghurs and others being persecuted by China, it was Pakistani and Chink shills online who were doing damage-control and saying nay.
>Can anyone explain the complete lack of reaction from the Muslim world to china literally genociding their Muslim population?
Unfortunately, there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in the Muslim World (like anywhere else) in addition to what is essentially a derangement syndrome towards the US on par with what many have towards Trump and/or Erdogan where everything is their fault, even when it makes no sense.
Most of it comes down to lack of information and willingness to practice agency. The wider Muslim population largely relies on foreign and Western media, and so if they aren't talking about it, then most Muslims don't know about it at all. And if they are talking about it, and somehow the US is nominally on the side of Muslims in a scenario, they'll either dismiss it as trivial or outright propaganda. That's just the wider Muslim world, excluding say Gulf Arab states who don't give a frick about Muslims period except when it benefits them financially and politically.
I could name you a dozen countries right now where Muslims are persecuted, and half of them get zero coverage, and the other half barely any coverage.
This is not a new phenomenon, it's centuries old at this point. There are certain "hot topics" and everything else is water under the bridge. People will talk about say the Fall of Andalus in 1492 which was over 500 years ago, but have no clue about the countless genocides thereafter including recent ones. Northern Philippines 1500s. Southern Vietnam 1800s; the genocides of Circassians, Abazin, Ubykh, Arshtin (1800s), Budjak and Crimean Tatars (late 1770s to 1940s), Kazakhs and Volga Tatars (1919 to 1930s) by Russia; Algerians (1830s to 1960s) by France, present-day situations in Central African Republic, DR Congo, Mozambique, Myanmar, etc just to name a few.
Because people are ignorant about the past, they don't understand the urgency of the present and future.
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When Palestinians were being massacred and exiled by Israelis in the 1940s, the Soviets were stuffing Chechen-Ingush, Karachay-Balkar, Laz, Ahiska Turks, and remaining Crimean Tatars, etc into freight trains—the month-long journey itself killed thousands, only to be dumped in Siberia and Central Asia where hundreds of thousands died a premature death. After Stalin died, most were allowed back to their homes except the Laz and Crimean Tatars who were never allowed back. Everyone knows about Palestinian occupation, but there's been countless full-fledged genocides across 3 continents that gets little or no press.
Let's go back even further. When you hear discussions about the Crusades or of Muslim heroes, Saladin (Salahuddin al-Ayubi) is a name that always comes up. But another name you'll almost never hear is Rukn ad-Din Baibars. Yet, Baibars defeated both the Crusaders and the Mongol Ilkhanate himself. Why is one so famous and the other a nobody today? It's because Saladin was extensively written about and romanticized by Westerners, whereas Baibars wasn't.
Crusaders still existed during and after Saladin which is probably why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle. Baibars defeated Crusaders much more decisively and he pushed back the Mongol-led Ilkhanate whereas Europeans couldn't do the same to the Golden Horde. So he's not a figure they romanticize, and in turn most Muslims don't either.
Furthermore, even the context that lay Muslims do talk about Saladin it's exclusively his fight with the Crusaders, yet Saladin's biggest achievement IMO was actually how he took over the Fatimid Empire with minimal violence and completely ended Ismaili Shia power (which was the second largest sect during the High Middle Ages). But that topic obviously isn't relevant to or romanticized by Westerners, so most Muslims don't know or talk about it either.
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[...]
When Palestinians were being massacred and exiled by Israelis in the 1940s, the Soviets were stuffing Chechen-Ingush, Karachay-Balkar, Laz, Ahiska Turks, and remaining Crimean Tatars, etc into freight trains—the month-long journey itself killed thousands, only to be dumped in Siberia and Central Asia where hundreds of thousands died a premature death. After Stalin died, most were allowed back to their homes except the Laz and Crimean Tatars who were never allowed back. Everyone knows about Palestinian occupation, but there's been countless full-fledged genocides across 3 continents that gets little or no press.
Let's go back even further. When you hear discussions about the Crusades or of Muslim heroes, Saladin (Salahuddin al-Ayubi) is a name that always comes up. But another name you'll almost never hear is Rukn ad-Din Baibars. Yet, Baibars defeated both the Crusaders and the Mongol Ilkhanate himself. Why is one so famous and the other a nobody today? It's because Saladin was extensively written about and romanticized by Westerners, whereas Baibars wasn't.
Crusaders still existed during and after Saladin which is probably why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle. Baibars defeated Crusaders much more decisively and he pushed back the Mongol-led Ilkhanate whereas Europeans couldn't do the same to the Golden Horde. So he's not a figure they romanticize, and in turn most Muslims don't either.
Furthermore, even the context that lay Muslims do talk about Saladin it's exclusively his fight with the Crusaders, yet Saladin's biggest achievement IMO was actually how he took over the Fatimid Empire with minimal violence and completely ended Ismaili Shia power (which was the second largest sect during the High Middle Ages). But that topic obviously isn't relevant to or romanticized by Westerners, so most Muslims don't know or talk about it either.
[End.]
>Can anyone explain the complete lack of reaction from the Muslim world to china literally genociding their Muslim population?
Unfortunately, there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in the Muslim World (like anywhere else) in addition to what is essentially a derangement syndrome towards the US on par with what many have towards Trump and/or Erdogan where everything is their fault, even when it makes no sense.
Most of it comes down to lack of information and willingness to practice agency. The wider Muslim population largely relies on foreign and Western media, and so if they aren't talking about it, then most Muslims don't know about it at all. And if they are talking about it, and somehow the US is nominally on the side of Muslims in a scenario, they'll either dismiss it as trivial or outright propaganda. That's just the wider Muslim world, excluding say Gulf Arab states who don't give a frick about Muslims period except when it benefits them financially and politically.
I could name you a dozen countries right now where Muslims are persecuted, and half of them get zero coverage, and the other half barely any coverage.
This is not a new phenomenon, it's centuries old at this point. There are certain "hot topics" and everything else is water under the bridge. People will talk about say the Fall of Andalus in 1492 which was over 500 years ago, but have no clue about the countless genocides thereafter including recent ones. Northern Philippines 1500s. Southern Vietnam 1800s; the genocides of Circassians, Abazin, Ubykh, Arshtin (1800s), Budjak and Crimean Tatars (late 1770s to 1940s), Kazakhs and Volga Tatars (1919 to 1930s) by Russia; Algerians (1830s to 1960s) by France, present-day situations in Central African Republic, DR Congo, Mozambique, Myanmar, etc just to name a few.
Because people are ignorant about the past, they don't understand the urgency of the present and future.
[Cont..]
When Palestinians were being massacred and exiled by Israelis in the 1940s, the Soviets were stuffing Chechen-Ingush, Karachay-Balkar, Laz, Ahiska Turks, and remaining Crimean Tatars, etc into freight trains—the month-long journey itself killed thousands, only to be dumped in Siberia and Central Asia where hundreds of thousands died a premature death. After Stalin died, most were allowed back to their homes except the Laz and Crimean Tatars who were never allowed back. Everyone knows about Palestinian occupation, but there's been countless full-fledged genocides across 3 continents that gets little or no press.
Let's go back even further. When you hear discussions about the Crusades or of Muslim heroes, Saladin (Salahuddin al-Ayubi) is a name that always comes up. But another name you'll almost never hear is Rukn ad-Din Baibars. Yet, Baibars defeated both the Crusaders and the Mongol Ilkhanate himself. Why is one so famous and the other a nobody today? It's because Saladin was extensively written about and romanticized by Westerners, whereas Baibars wasn't.
Crusaders still existed during and after Saladin which is probably why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle. Baibars defeated Crusaders much more decisively and he pushed back the Mongol-led Ilkhanate whereas Europeans couldn't do the same to the Golden Horde. So he's not a figure they romanticize, and in turn most Muslims don't either.
Furthermore, even the context that lay Muslims do talk about Saladin it's exclusively his fight with the Crusaders, yet Saladin's biggest achievement IMO was actually how he took over the Fatimid Empire with minimal violence and completely ended Ismaili Shia power (which was the second largest sect during the High Middle Ages). But that topic obviously isn't relevant to or romanticized by Westerners, so most Muslims don't know or talk about it either.
[End.]
>why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle.
Saladin was just honorable. The first reports depicted him as a monster BECAUSE was a muslim and enemy etc but people had to admit he was a cool guy everything considered.
>why do muslims refuse believe amerimutt lies for domestic amerimutt propaganda after beeing exposed lying the same way about muslims and china gorilion times >i know right this must be chinas fault
its funnny when amerimutt shills keep typing the same script with their brown and black fingers when literally the whole world already called them out on their shit.
Elaborate.
OP made a bait post as if the rest of the Muslim world are in cahoots with Pakistan. As far as I'm concerned both Pakistan and India are just in the way (and will inevitably collapse).
If you're asking me to name the "heretics", I'll happily oblige.
>(and will inevitably collapse )
They've been saying that about India since it's independence, shit's still the same. Pakistan on the other hand seems more likely, especially with the political/economic/food crisis they got going on there.
India is an incoherent super state. It's impossible to keep it together for long. There's never been an Indian state of this magnitude that lasted more than a century without breaking up.
They’re both shitholes and they’re both going to collapse. The best we can hope for is that they turn each other into glowing parking lots in the process. >They’ve been saying that about India since independence.
That was less than 80 years ago. In terms of a nation that’s nothing. That’s like an alcoholic saying “I haven’t had a drink since the 4th of July” on the 6th. It doesn’t mean jack. Neither nation has had to weather a major crisis yet and I doubt either has the strength to.
While I am aware that Pakistanis are not Arabs, there's a lot of Arab influence in Pakistani culture due to Muslim colonization, so the article linked below still applies.
Feel like most people forget that Uighurs are not the only Muslims in China. Most of the Islamic groups in China have not recieved the same sort of treatment. That probably allows most Islamic nations to ignore things as that sort of discrimination is not exactly rare in Islam.
>Most of the Islamic groups in China have not recieved the same sort of treatment.
Not yet, but it's coming.
https://thediplomat.com/2021/06/chinas-repression-of-the-hui-a-slow-boil/
Pakistan doesn't represent "the Ummah"...It's a schizo state.
And it was founded by heretics (Twelvers, Ismailis and Qadianis).
t. China/India dicksucker
Frick all three of those countries, especially China.
wienersucker.
>especially China.
fricking moronic
China is absolutely based
>t. China/India dicksucker
Pakistan is a China dicksucker.
In the late 2010s when the wider public were just beginning to talk about Uyghurs and others being persecuted by China, it was Pakistani and Chink shills online who were doing damage-control and saying nay.
Can anyone explain the complete lack of reaction from the Muslim world to china literally genociding their Muslim population?
Do they need the belt and road gibs that much?
>Do they need the belt and road gibs that much?
China is paying them to keep quiet.
>Can anyone explain the complete lack of reaction from the Muslim world to china literally genociding their Muslim population?
Unfortunately, there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in the Muslim World (like anywhere else) in addition to what is essentially a derangement syndrome towards the US on par with what many have towards Trump and/or Erdogan where everything is their fault, even when it makes no sense.
Most of it comes down to lack of information and willingness to practice agency. The wider Muslim population largely relies on foreign and Western media, and so if they aren't talking about it, then most Muslims don't know about it at all. And if they are talking about it, and somehow the US is nominally on the side of Muslims in a scenario, they'll either dismiss it as trivial or outright propaganda. That's just the wider Muslim world, excluding say Gulf Arab states who don't give a frick about Muslims period except when it benefits them financially and politically.
I could name you a dozen countries right now where Muslims are persecuted, and half of them get zero coverage, and the other half barely any coverage.
This is not a new phenomenon, it's centuries old at this point. There are certain "hot topics" and everything else is water under the bridge. People will talk about say the Fall of Andalus in 1492 which was over 500 years ago, but have no clue about the countless genocides thereafter including recent ones. Northern Philippines 1500s. Southern Vietnam 1800s; the genocides of Circassians, Abazin, Ubykh, Arshtin (1800s), Budjak and Crimean Tatars (late 1770s to 1940s), Kazakhs and Volga Tatars (1919 to 1930s) by Russia; Algerians (1830s to 1960s) by France, present-day situations in Central African Republic, DR Congo, Mozambique, Myanmar, etc just to name a few.
Because people are ignorant about the past, they don't understand the urgency of the present and future.
[Cont..]
Good posting anon. Looking forward to part 3.
Thanks for the info
When Palestinians were being massacred and exiled by Israelis in the 1940s, the Soviets were stuffing Chechen-Ingush, Karachay-Balkar, Laz, Ahiska Turks, and remaining Crimean Tatars, etc into freight trains—the month-long journey itself killed thousands, only to be dumped in Siberia and Central Asia where hundreds of thousands died a premature death. After Stalin died, most were allowed back to their homes except the Laz and Crimean Tatars who were never allowed back. Everyone knows about Palestinian occupation, but there's been countless full-fledged genocides across 3 continents that gets little or no press.
Let's go back even further. When you hear discussions about the Crusades or of Muslim heroes, Saladin (Salahuddin al-Ayubi) is a name that always comes up. But another name you'll almost never hear is Rukn ad-Din Baibars. Yet, Baibars defeated both the Crusaders and the Mongol Ilkhanate himself. Why is one so famous and the other a nobody today? It's because Saladin was extensively written about and romanticized by Westerners, whereas Baibars wasn't.
Crusaders still existed during and after Saladin which is probably why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle. Baibars defeated Crusaders much more decisively and he pushed back the Mongol-led Ilkhanate whereas Europeans couldn't do the same to the Golden Horde. So he's not a figure they romanticize, and in turn most Muslims don't either.
Furthermore, even the context that lay Muslims do talk about Saladin it's exclusively his fight with the Crusaders, yet Saladin's biggest achievement IMO was actually how he took over the Fatimid Empire with minimal violence and completely ended Ismaili Shia power (which was the second largest sect during the High Middle Ages). But that topic obviously isn't relevant to or romanticized by Westerners, so most Muslims don't know or talk about it either.
[End.]
>Baibar is not known in the west
Come on now. Saladin is more popular but come on.
>why they wrote about him as an interesting character in order to push their own narratives involving courage and struggle.
Saladin was just honorable. The first reports depicted him as a monster BECAUSE was a muslim and enemy etc but people had to admit he was a cool guy everything considered.
>why do muslims refuse believe amerimutt lies for domestic amerimutt propaganda after beeing exposed lying the same way about muslims and china gorilion times
>i know right this must be chinas fault
its funnny when amerimutt shills keep typing the same script with their brown and black fingers when literally the whole world already called them out on their shit.
>Do they need the belt and road gibs that much?
Yes. This is all about money.
Hindus are pagan but not idol worshippers.
Most people dismiss it as fake news.
Doesn't help that Donald Trump is the one who said it.
>Hindus are pagan but not idol worshippers.
I am pretty sure they are, what's the difference
Oh? What tabletop strategy game is this fluff for?
Elaborate.
OP made a bait post as if the rest of the Muslim world are in cahoots with Pakistan. As far as I'm concerned both Pakistan and India are just in the way (and will inevitably collapse).
If you're asking me to name the "heretics", I'll happily oblige.
>(and will inevitably collapse )
They've been saying that about India since it's independence, shit's still the same. Pakistan on the other hand seems more likely, especially with the political/economic/food crisis they got going on there.
India is an incoherent super state. It's impossible to keep it together for long. There's never been an Indian state of this magnitude that lasted more than a century without breaking up.
India already has low-level religious/ethnic conflict raging throughout the country. It’s a powder keg waiting for a moron to stumble by with a torch.
They’re both shitholes and they’re both going to collapse. The best we can hope for is that they turn each other into glowing parking lots in the process.
>They’ve been saying that about India since independence.
That was less than 80 years ago. In terms of a nation that’s nothing. That’s like an alcoholic saying “I haven’t had a drink since the 4th of July” on the 6th. It doesn’t mean jack. Neither nation has had to weather a major crisis yet and I doubt either has the strength to.
What's it got to do with Russia? Pakistan's failure is 100% down to Pakistan corruption.
While I am aware that Pakistanis are not Arabs, there's a lot of Arab influence in Pakistani culture due to Muslim colonization, so the article linked below still applies.
https://ciaotest.cc.columbia.edu/olj/meria/meria00_den01.html
Allah shall give Pakistan 3000 black fighter jets
you have to go back
God loves ignorant pagans more than the willing followers of the antichrist so this shouldn't surprise you.
when will Pakistan and India just nuke each other?
never. can you imagine the amount of shit in the air?
Pakistan had top of the line Western equipment. India had to put up with Soviet junk.
Pakistan failed, where Israel succeeded, because Islam is the enemy reason and progress.
Please nuke new delhi, please nuke it twice.
Feel like most people forget that Uighurs are not the only Muslims in China. Most of the Islamic groups in China have not recieved the same sort of treatment. That probably allows most Islamic nations to ignore things as that sort of discrimination is not exactly rare in Islam.
>Most of the Islamic groups in China have not recieved the same sort of treatment.
Not yet, but it's coming.
https://thediplomat.com/2021/06/chinas-repression-of-the-hui-a-slow-boil/