Israeli post-Gaza military expansion

IDF defense ministry is in the early stages of planning a post-Gaza military buildup similar to the one after the 1973 war

>25-50 additional F-35
>25-50 F-15EX
>12-24 AH-64E
>4-8 Refueling aircraft
>2 additional drone squadrons
>3 additional Dolphin nuclear-capable submarines (bringing planned total fleet to 12)
>4-7 domestically made Missile Boats
>additional iron dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow-2/3 missile defense systems
>Domestically made MLRS, SRBM, and MRBM
>40,000 additional active manpower in peacetime

As usual the ground forces get shafted but there are talks for upgraded merkavas, next generation of Namer, and M109 replacement. I don’t expect anything except the latter for ages if ever

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about your shitskin "wars".

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are you here?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Put a bid on the Garibaldi when it goes to auction. They had f4's once, they could make it work.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’ve already added a tank battalion. Probably going to double their Merk 4 numbers in the future. Same with D-9s

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all those conventional weapons
    looks like they're going back to manoeuvre warfare then
    will be confirmed if the Ghost Unit is binned

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess after they finish roft stomping Gaza they kinda realize that they won't be in a good position.

    American will be out of Iraq and Syria at some point, idk if a new generation of sunnis is ready to go buck wild in iraq yet. They're reputation is in the shitter with Jordan and Egypt and eventually those homosexuals in charge will die.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does israel need a dozen submarines?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3 additional Dolphin nuclear-capable submarines (bringing planned total fleet to 12)
      what do they need so many of these for
      what are they planning

      The next 3 already under construction in Germany (and 6 if they order 3 more) can supposedly launch ballistic missiles. Conventionally powered ballistic missile subs are rare but do exist, north korea has one and the Soviets had a few.

      The desire is to create a nuclear triad impossible to stop to deter Iran should it ever go nuclear, or to deter a major invasion of Israel. With 12 submarines equipped with various nuclear missiles you have basically no chance of stopping them all before they can launch at you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >With 12 submarines equipped with various nuclear missiles you have basically no chance of stopping them all before they can launch at you
        kek.
        Soviets had a lot more than that and US Navy had them always shadowed.
        they would have been killed instantly.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but they're not being stopped by the USN so it should be enough

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Israel's enemies aren't as of yet the USN, so it's irrelevant. Iranian Navy has very little power projection or ASW ability

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The desire is to create a nuclear triad impossible to stop to deter Iran
        that makes sense, ty

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like they expect Gaza to no longer be a meaningful threat after all this, and are pivoting to face Iran directly.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3 additional Dolphin nuclear-capable submarines (bringing planned total fleet to 12)
    what do they need so many of these for
    what are they planning

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're nuclear deterrence. shrimple as

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you only need one ship on the way for that.
        a fleet of 4 is enough to have always one at sea.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah I dunno. maybe the Israeli navy likes to feel like big boys and want a big boy budget?
          funnily enough, no one ever talks about the Israeli navy, for self evident reasons

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's gone full Kreigsmarine and ignores surface or conventional capabilities for submarine spam. They plan 9 subs and are going for 12, which is very high for a brown water navy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              well, Egyptians sunk their principal surface combatant with cheap missile boats.
              there's no such easy counter for subs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thinning the arabic hordes, inshallah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the Dolphins are perfect dual-use weapons; they can provide a ballistic deterrence, while at the same time conducting ISR along the Israeli coast and attacking any hybrid naval threats

      for example, one of the actual good ideas Van Riper came up with in Millennium Challenge was a suicide civvy tanker on a major shipping lane. basically 9/11 on the high seas. that could easily have happened Oct 7th, given how porous the Israeli coastal defence turned out to be, only it didn't, this time. I'm sure the Israeli Navy has thought of that possibility.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dakars are not Dolphins.
        Dolphins have no VLS nor ballistic weapons.

        Israel would have to first develop submarine-launched ballistic weapons, too. no one is going to sell them any because Israel is an technically an illegal nuclear power.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The first 6 in service can only launch cruise missiles true, the next 3-6 are planned to launch ballistic missiles. Israel already has IRBM's in use that would be fitted to such a vessel much like the north koreans have done

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the Dolphin IIIs have the extended VLS sail as well

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >suicide civvy tanker on a major shipping lane. basically 9/11 on the high seas. that could easily have happened Oct 7th, given how porous the Israeli coastal defence turned out to be
        what?
        coast might be porous, their ports aren't.
        you aren't going to sail a tanker into Haifa unimposed.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you aren't going to sail a tanker into Haifa unimposed.
          what's stopping it?
          they were that unprepared that day, they had to scoot around gunning swimmers in the water; who says they could have stopped a maritime 9/11

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Giant ships are a lot easier to detect then little rats swarming in over a border.

            That being said the surprise is gone now anyway and there's 4 Corvettes/dozens of patrol craft/hundreds of aircraft available to stop it

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Giant ships are a lot easier to detect
              so are civilian passenger aircraft, and yet
              the problem with terrorist attacks is always separating the wheat from the chaff

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                9/11 style attacks are impossible to pull off now which is why it hasn't happened again. Once the surprise is gone that's it, so yeah hamas blew the chance of Iran and co. to take Israel unawares for at least the next 20 or so years until they get their guard down again

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hamas doesn't do suicide attacks

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They used to until Israel left gaza and they were able to upgrade. Those days are now gone though so I can see them going back to it.

                Though one could say Oct 7th was a sort of suicide attack since they nearly all died in it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The vast majority of Westerners, support Palestine and are celebrating the Hamas attacks, including 7 October.

                I have been surprised by the amount of opposition to Israel among all sectors of the American and European populations. it seems very clear to me at this point that their ruling class truly didn't expect this level of outrage and lack of support for Israel.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah zoomies/troonys/browns who inhabit the west love palestinians. Irrelevant to my point though that Hamas will probably resort to suicide attacks again now that they've lost their military capability

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Irrelevant to my point though that Hamas will probably resort to suicide attacks again now that they've lost their military capability
                Hamas is still able to launch rockets at Israel at this very moment.
                Israel wants to close the border to Gaza permanently. no suicide bombers will get in.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hamas rockets went from 5,000 a day on October 7th to 10 every 4 days

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this pasta again

                yeah zoomies/troonys/browns who inhabit the west love palestinians. Irrelevant to my point though that Hamas will probably resort to suicide attacks again now that they've lost their military capability

                just ignore him lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no

                9/11 style attacks are impossible to pull off now which is why it hasn't happened again. Once the surprise is gone that's it, so yeah hamas blew the chance of Iran and co. to take Israel unawares for at least the next 20 or so years until they get their guard down again

                >9/11 style attacks are impossible to pull off now
                impossible, like "never", is a very big word I would hesitate to use

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nuclear tipped SLCMs are unironically more dangerous than ballistic missiles being harder to intercept and since likely targets are regional, they don't need anything longer ranged

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >harder to intercept
          cruise missiles are harder to detect but easier to intercept; ballistic missiles are easier to detect but harder to intercept

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cruise missiles are harder to detect but easier to intercept;
            hypersonic cruise missiles have nullfied 'advantage'

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah and who is paying for all that shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      America and Germany's money printing agencies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        inflation in the US (and Germany) is lower than russia

        I'm sure Boeing is excited about the procurements though.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of the Pissraeli navy, how good is the Gabriel V/Sea Serpent/Blue Spear compared to Harpoon/Tomahawk? Finland and Estonia also use them and the Russians were shitting themselves that the Ukrainians might get them until the Israelis overruled any transfers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we should refuse to sell F-1SEX to Pissrael for hard currency and only accept weapons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      likely at least as good as Harpoon, and they have programmable waypoints
      the only hot shit we don't know if they have is electro-optical target recognition and stealth coatings; they may or may not have precursor charges and swarm targeting, Israel has the tech but who knows if they put it on

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its Harpoon-sized but has a secondary land attack capability, has about a third the payload and range of a TLAM

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gabriel V
      worse range, better chance of hitting something up close
      >Sea Serpent
      Better than Harpoon which is an aged system but for British
      >Blue Spear
      super-long range Gabriel intended more for strategic strikes, these are the kinds of weapons russians fear which have caused them havoc in Ukraine

      With Russia getting b***hy about gaza likelihood of Israel selling arms to Ukraine is increasing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Israel is currently having their own wars.
        They aren't going to export any high-tech munitions that they would need themselves.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Blue Spear is also manufactured by Singapore, they can step in to fill any supply gap

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Israeli domestic arms industry is largely uneffected by the current war outside of need for guided artillery shells and precision munitions. Nothing else is in high demand and these are mostly being shipped in from US. It's not like Ukraine where both sides constantly need to fully equip newly mobilized troops/vehicles to replace prior losses.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting. Source on the naval expansion?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it came to me in a dream

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like the holohoax and the gas chambers?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all paid by you the American tax payer

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >M109 replacement

    Probably some kind of Archer/Caesar truck based system with three man crew, the trend is for less tracked armor like the M109 and PzH2000 for faster, lighter, lower maintenance

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    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what if u loaded one of those up in the bed of a hover craft and had it drive around the rabotyne mess?
      I mean, how hard could that be?

      >make a flat-bed hovercraft (ez)
      >load artillery-truck
      >drive the hovercraft around and shoot the artillery gun from the bed, "scorpion&frog" even
      >...profit?

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