Isn't it simply marvelous? What else do you actually need?

Isn't it simply marvelous? What else do you actually need? I don't think there's anything Browning could have done that would've improved it any further. I can come to no other conclusion than that it must have been divinely inspired.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, like all of Lucifer's works it is merely an inferior knock off of true divine inspiration (Luger and 9mm). Sorry OP.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP here
    I used the wrong image, oops
    Correct pic here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dear diary, today OP was not a homosexual but a good Joe.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He should have bulked up the locking mechanism of the 1911, made the case web thick like a shortened .45 Win Mag, and bumped up the pressure to a respectable degree. .45 ACP standard pressure is pathetic and only performs how it should with stupid ball ammo. Shit's so slow, you can see it moving with the naked eye.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's too slow
      >it's too pressure
      Those are two of the best things about it. Low pressure means low blast and concussion, a 45 will be more pleasant to shoot than a 9mm as far as noise. And the slow speed makes for very fun silhouette shooting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it's a fun round now, but I wouldn't want to be issued the "fun" gun in WW2.

        >It only performs how it should with ball ammo
        interdasting.png

        Yes, it was made to do so. The problem is that even original spec 9mm and .32 ACP at least go fast enough to expand a hollow point more often than not. .45 ACP fell behind fast compared to other 100 year-old cartridges.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hollow points are a meme
          Hollow points may fail to expand, but a 45 will never shrink
          All that matters is CNS hits instantly stopping a threat, failing this, deflation of the chest cavity causing hypoxia

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hollow points may fail to expand, but a 45 will never shrink
            Funny you say it like that. Handgun ball ammo actually leaves sub-caliber wounds. It can bounce off of organs and bone without doing serious damage if it doesn't impact directly due to the taper, where something like a wadcutter or expanded HP will cut through with the more aggressive angle.

            FMJ is REALLY bad, man.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hollow points are a meme
              Hollow points may fail to expand, but a 45 will never shrink
              All that matters is CNS hits instantly stopping a threat, failing this, deflation of the chest cavity causing hypoxia

              Ball ammo is also hilariously shit at penetrating. It's not good on flesh, and it's not good on armor.
              Also
              >muh fowdy five
              >muh stopping power

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>muh stopping power
                it's called kinetic energy and it is measured in joules
                have a nice day with an airsoft gun at some absurd speed that breaks skin on contact and then have a nice day with any old paintball gun
                then concentrate with your feeble brain to surmise a logical conclusion as to which one you'd rather not be shot by more

                protip: it's the heavy hitter
                additional protip: .45 was made to stop charging melee attackers, 9 was made for homosexual police to wear on their hips as an accessory to their notepads

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hollow points may fail to expand
            if you're shooting through a foot of texan visceral fat, maybe

            in the future, will we have defensive hollow point loads designed specifically for the land whale body type?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no, then 10mm will finally supplant 9mm when all Americans are wall-e people.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >John Moses Browning specifically designed this one cartridge to only work with hardball.
          Very interdasting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A reliably penetrating.32 ACP hollow point does not exist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But it at least has enough velocity to deform. Whether or not that's beneficial in the case of .32 ACP is a different story. Even HST has hit or miss expansion from standard pressure .45 ACP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It only performs how it should with ball ammo
      interdasting.png

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so slow, you can see it moving with the naked eye.

      >The shooter is often able to trace it, and make corrections if needed
      >The target (human) rarely if ever tracks it, and, if the bullet is on target, will still get hit

      Exactly how is this a disadvantage to the shooter?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slow bullet bad

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    True.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As much as I love a 1911 in 45ACP:
    the entire handgun market made a full circle from and back to 9mm, and that's a fact. 9mm is the best pistol caliber for self defense and law enforcement.
    All the calibers that spawned with the ambition to replace 9mm like 40S&W, 10mm, 357 Sig failed to do so and it's not just about ammunition costs.
    In a gunfight if you're only armed with a pistol you need a cartridge that is powerful enough and it can be shot fast effectively, and that can provide most capacity in the magazine. That's the 9mm.
    Bigger round? Less capacity. More powerful round? You're slower in putting another round downrange and all ballistic studies show the added power is actually irrelevant and stopping power is just a myth.
    If you need more than 9mm than you need far more than "powerful automatic handgun rounds" and you need a shotgun or a rifle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      30 SC has more capacity and faster follow up shots

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >n a gunfight if you're only armed with a pistol you need a cartridge that is powerful enough and it can be shot fast effectively, and that can provide most capacity in the magazine. That's the 9mm.

      ABSOLUTELY. 100%. VERIFIABLY. FALSE.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread OP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're not so different, you and I..

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sup guys. Recently joined the club.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome fren, you made a good choice.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer the .45 for its chunky punch but 9mm for its lack of kick (comparatively)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've never really noticed a huge recoil difference between the two cartridges. Obviously, light 115grn standard velocity 9mm has less of a kick than 230grn 45ACP, but when you get up to 124grn 9mm, I find the difference negligible. It's overall a pleasant shooting cartridge.

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