Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?

Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I kinda like it as "passive" backup option

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No, what would make you think that? If the Russians had any electronic warfare capabilities those cheap drones wouldn't work.

      >Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?
      Is the English language the second you learned?

      No

      Warriortard cope

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fiber-optic guided seems to be in vogue

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, what would make you think that? If the Russians had any electronic warfare capabilities those cheap drones wouldn't work.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If the Russians had any electronic warfare capabilities
      They do, but they have to be judicious in how they use it, because they can't do it without fricking their own shit up, as well. From what I've heard, the actual life expectancy of any given drone is pretty short, and a lot of the success of the drone bombers is down to how fricking many of them have wound up in Ukraine.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?
    Is the English language the second you learned?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can't be jammed, they are relevant.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's the latest model of wire-guarded missiles?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Probably TOW-2B at least for the US.

      • 1 year ago
        Yukari

        TOW-2s in service aren't wire guided any more

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They absolutely can be jammed, they rely on the launch unit for commands which can be blinded with a laser.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is as stupid as the dinosaurs that follow lasers attached to guns in the jurassic world movies. Like if you're pointing a gun at someone so that dinosaurs will attack them, why not just shoot them? Same argument against this, you need to find the launch unit to blind it with a laser, why not just shoot the launch unit if you know where it is to point a laser at it?

        https://i.imgur.com/tYP8xJe.jpg

        >Can't be jammed, they are relevant.
        Nothing personal kid.

        Good luck?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >This is as stupid as the dinosaurs that follow lasers attached to guns in the jurassic world movies. Like if you're pointing a gun at someone so that dinosaurs will attack them, why not just shoot them? Same argument against this, you need to find the launch unit to blind it with a laser, why not just shoot the launch unit if you know where it is to point a laser at it?

          Are you really this poorly informed?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >posts shit that doesn't work
            ebin

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, it probably worked when it was developed....late 70s, was it? or 80s?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            SHTORA hasn't worked since it was developed. TOW-2 uses a completely different method of guidance that ignores the sort of jamming Soviet era soft kill systems emit

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It uses the same method of guidance, just the infrared beacon in the tail end of the missile was upgraded to have random frequency hopping
              >“All basic TOW infrared beacons operate on the same frequency (the infrared light turns on and off at the same rate of speed). This causes two problems: First, two systems cannot be placed closer than 300 meters because the beacons overlap and the MGS has no means of distinguishing between the missiles, causing it to lose control. Second, jamming the daysight tracker is fairly simple if the enemy knows the correct frequency. The TOW 2 overcomes these problems by having the MGS send a signal to the missile that controls the frequency at which the xenon beacon is operating. The MGS varies this pattern randomly, speeding it up and slowing it down in no apparent pattern. The MGS is always able to distinguish its missile from other missiles because no two missiles will be operating on the same frequency at the same time. For the same reason, the enemy cannot jam the system.”

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, there is an IR flare and xenon beacon that are coded by a moving shutter that encodes the signal.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >SHTORA hasn't worked since it was developed.

              But it looks wicked cool though. Wish our tanks had angry eyes.

              Most mid-late Cold War wire guided Western ATGMs work better than Russian beam riders with their bang bang guidance which hop around the crosshairs as wildly as the old M47 Dragon did.

              >bang bang guidance which hop around the crosshairs
              This is because of how analog control of the fins works. Doesn't stop stuff like the Stugna from being used in AA and anti-infantry capacity.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't be jammed, they are relevant.
      Nothing personal kid.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are, now they are only good for circling around OP's neck

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    but but they switched to fiber optics decades ago
    its actually better than rf since they cant be detected or jammed via radio

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why are there no wire-guided drones? It solves jamming and could help power the drone too. If we can wire-guide missiles we can surely do it with drones.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is atleast one company that makes drones with a ground tether for both power and data.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There will always be benefit to having a closed circuit for controlling a missile until we have AI-guided missiles that utilize zero outside input.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    where does several kilometers of wire even fit in? is the wire just really thin

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes its very thin, for example the 2.5 mile wire pair of the TOW sits on a spool of about 5 inches.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        not him but that hits differently no cap

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Missile with wires > No missile

    >buy wireless missile
    >open it up
    >wires inside
    Can't explain that shit.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is dey dun gonna give UFO reparashuns

  15. 1 year ago
    RC-135 Rivet Joint

    totally obsolete?

    outdated maybe but the real issue with the wire guided missiles is that they tend to be slow moving (tracking....tracking....tracking....) and that exposes the shooter to enemy fire.

    Ideally one would have a NLOS or fire and forget ATGM with GPS,IRTV and laser guidance but perfect is the true enemy of good enough naw mean?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Ideally one would have a NLOS or fire and forget ATGM with GPS,IRTV and laser guidance but perfect is the true enemy of good enough naw mean?

      They literally make this missile, its called the Akeron MP (former MMP).

      >Verification not required.

      • 1 year ago
        RC-135 Rivet Joint

        yup

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Burgers replaced the wire with a disposable radio link for TOW.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are going to become more popular because anti-infared systems like the Northrop Grumman Guardian are spreading. Also they are immune to jamming.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, they're still killling shit really good in basically every active battle zone on earth. Possibly relegated to 2nd stringer status as lighter more advanced ATGM's suplant them, but they'll probably never be decomissioned if they can still reliably kill tanks, ifv's, apc's, trucks, mraps, people, bunkers, etc.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Most mid-late Cold War wire guided Western ATGMs work better than Russian beam riders with their bang bang guidance which hop around the crosshairs as wildly as the old M47 Dragon did.

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