Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now? Posted on March 1, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?
I kinda like it as "passive" backup option
Fiber-optic guided seems to be in vogue
No, what would make you think that? If the Russians had any electronic warfare capabilities those cheap drones wouldn't work.
>If the Russians had any electronic warfare capabilities
They do, but they have to be judicious in how they use it, because they can't do it without fucking their own shit up, as well. From what I've heard, the actual life expectancy of any given drone is pretty short, and a lot of the success of the drone bombers is down to how fucking many of them have wound up in Ukraine.
>Is wire-guided missiles totally obsolete now?
Is the English language the second you learned?
Can't be jammed, they are relevant.
What's the latest model of wire-guarded missiles?
Probably TOW-2B at least for the US.
TOW-2s in service aren't wire guided any more
They absolutely can be jammed, they rely on the launch unit for commands which can be blinded with a laser.
This is as stupid as the dinosaurs that follow lasers attached to guns in the jurassic world movies. Like if you're pointing a gun at someone so that dinosaurs will attack them, why not just shoot them? Same argument against this, you need to find the launch unit to blind it with a laser, why not just shoot the launch unit if you know where it is to point a laser at it?
>This is as stupid as the dinosaurs that follow lasers attached to guns in the jurassic world movies. Like if you're pointing a gun at someone so that dinosaurs will attack them, why not just shoot them? Same argument against this, you need to find the launch unit to blind it with a laser, why not just shoot the launch unit if you know where it is to point a laser at it?
Are you really this poorly informed?
>posts shit that doesn't work
I mean, it probably worked when it was developed....late 70s, was it? or 80s?
SHTORA hasn't worked since it was developed. TOW-2 uses a completely different method of guidance that ignores the sort of jamming Soviet era soft kill systems emit
It uses the same method of guidance, just the infrared beacon in the tail end of the missile was upgraded to have random frequency hopping
>“All basic TOW infrared beacons operate on the same frequency (the infrared light turns on and off at the same rate of speed). This causes two problems: First, two systems cannot be placed closer than 300 meters because the beacons overlap and the MGS has no means of distinguishing between the missiles, causing it to lose control. Second, jamming the daysight tracker is fairly simple if the enemy knows the correct frequency. The TOW 2 overcomes these problems by having the MGS send a signal to the missile that controls the frequency at which the xenon beacon is operating. The MGS varies this pattern randomly, speeding it up and slowing it down in no apparent pattern. The MGS is always able to distinguish its missile from other missiles because no two missiles will be operating on the same frequency at the same time. For the same reason, the enemy cannot jam the system.”
Yeah, there is an IR flare and xenon beacon that are coded by a moving shutter that encodes the signal.
>SHTORA hasn't worked since it was developed.
But it looks wicked cool though. Wish our tanks had angry eyes.
>bang bang guidance which hop around the crosshairs
This is because of how analog control of the fins works. Doesn't stop stuff like the Stugna from being used in AA and anti-infantry capacity.
>Can't be jammed, they are relevant.
Nothing personal kid.
They are, now they are only good for circling around OP's neck
but but they switched to fiber optics decades ago
its actually better than rf since they cant be detected or jammed via radio
Why are there no wire-guided drones? It solves jamming and could help power the drone too. If we can wire-guide missiles we can surely do it with drones.
There is atleast one company that makes drones with a ground tether for both power and data.
There will always be benefit to having a closed circuit for controlling a missile until we have AI-guided missiles that utilize zero outside input.
where does several kilometers of wire even fit in? is the wire just really thin
Yes its very thin, for example the 2.5 mile wire pair of the TOW sits on a spool of about 5 inches.
not him but that hits differently no cap
Missile with wires > No missile
>buy wireless missile
>open it up
Can't explain that shit.
Is dey dun gonna give UFO reparashuns
outdated maybe but the real issue with the wire guided missiles is that they tend to be slow moving (tracking....tracking....tracking....) and that exposes the shooter to enemy fire.
Ideally one would have a NLOS or fire and forget ATGM with GPS,IRTV and laser guidance but perfect is the true enemy of good enough naw mean?
>Ideally one would have a NLOS or fire and forget ATGM with GPS,IRTV and laser guidance but perfect is the true enemy of good enough naw mean?
They literally make this missile, its called the Akeron MP (former MMP).
>Verification not required.
Burgers replaced the wire with a disposable radio link for TOW.
They are going to become more popular because anti-infared systems like the Northrop Grumman Guardian are spreading. Also they are immune to jamming.
Nah, they're still killling shit really good in basically every active battle zone on earth. Possibly relegated to 2nd stringer status as lighter more advanced ATGM's suplant them, but they'll probably never be decomissioned if they can still reliably kill tanks, ifv's, apc's, trucks, mraps, people, bunkers, etc.
Most mid-late Cold War wire guided Western ATGMs work better than Russian beam riders with their bang bang guidance which hop around the crosshairs as wildly as the old M47 Dragon did.