Considering the Fins' training or the Poles' amount of hardware? Very plausible.
Russia is weak af and not only that, they literally cannot improvise. So if there's a surprise attack, Russia is fricked.
>they literally cannot improvise.
This is so amazing and our media was gearing us up with all that BTG talk, becuase Russia had supposedly streamlined its military after the Georgia fiasco and Chechnya.
The amazing thing is and hte point of the post: It's plausible that there is 'word of mouth' effort to keep any talk of Polish sanction against Russia from materializing.
Poland is feeling its oats though, with reparations talk about Germany being promoted by Russian propaganda, but why shouldn't POland be a bit aggressive to both german and russia? Poland's job is to tact like a canary between those two thugs.
>our media was gearing us up
It wasn't just the media. Our intelligence agencies had watched Russia operate in in Syria and was predicting them rolling Ukraine in weeks. We just didn't realize how bad the corporate/government corruption in Russia had gotten.
we still have lots of stuff left - more problems with actual soldiers than hardware and remember that there are around 10k foreign troops with their equipment (and they have what we lack the most medium/long range AA systems....
but Petersburg is not a valid target - Kaliningrad/ Minsk would have to fall first....
If Poland were to declare general mobilisation for the purpose of killing Russians I'd get my dual citizenship done and ship myself over.
Can't think of a better way to honor my two polish parents than using them to shoot russians
>honor my two polish parents
Anon, all humans are honoured by killing the Demon Rus. Jesus didn't need to temporarily die on the cross - he just needed to kill the proto-Russian tribes and all sins are wiped clean.
israelites want Khazaria back and that is eastern poland and western ukraine. israelites have been active in Poland trying to steal homes and land from Polish.
>92.7% of wartime railroad equipment and trains >1/3 of USSR trucks >30% of wartime fighter production >8% of wartime tank production >shitload of food and ammunition
Boris Vadimovich Sokolov: >On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders
Nikita Khrushchev: >He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war.
Georgy Zhukov: >Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.
Joseph Stalin: >"Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war
The post (your post, no need to pretend) is moronic because the Soviets were attacked by the Nazis mere months before the US joined WW2. How the frick would the British have anything to lend when they themselves depended on American aid during the course of the entire war?
kys tourist
2 years ago
Anonymous
>How the frick would the British have anything to lend when they themselves depended on American aid during the course of the entire war?
Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:
3,000+ Hurricane aircraft
4,000+ other aircraft
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
5,000+ anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn ($1.55bn) worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets
4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots
You are the tourist, FSB glowBlack person. Go to kauldron katsap
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh and Russians never paid for any of it. And they never paid in full for the American lend lease either, the yanks wrote it off.
Russia literally got their asses aved for free and have NEVER shown any gratitude. You can rescue a mutt off the street, treat it well, feed it up and it will be your friend forever.
Even a dog knows gratitude, but Russians don't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
While we're on this subject, it's worth mentioning the time America went to war with Japan over China, and then China declared war on the US less than ten years later.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, USA sided with Chang Kai Shek's China. The commies won the civil war against him and those were the ones who fought USA. You may as well say that ANA Afghanistan and Taliban Afghanistan is the same thing, so why hasn't Karzai given back the Taliban the money he ran off with? It's the same state right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/6CLaFqq.jpg
Oh and Russians never paid for any of it. And they never paid in full for the American lend lease either, the yanks wrote it off.
Russia literally got their asses aved for free and have NEVER shown any gratitude. You can rescue a mutt off the street, treat it well, feed it up and it will be your friend forever.
Even a dog knows gratitude, but Russians don't.
The same gear the US gave to Russia they promptly gave to the chinese commies after the European theatre ended. Which means there's a good chance some US gear killed Americans in Korea
2 years ago
Anonymous
Absolutely
The other day there was a thread about a report done on a captured t34-85 in Korea. Turns out the t34 used American ball bearings. Supporting communists is always a huge fricking mistake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
FDR's fault, cutthroat politician when it came to Dixies or Germans, but wide eyed naive little boy when it came to commies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He wanted to be a socialist tyrant just like Stalin.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You know that food didn't come from Russia, because it's loaded on pallets.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Delet this! Pallet's are western propaganda!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>delusional.jpg
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tbf you literally just cherrypicked the most grateful animal in existence. A dog will lick peanut butter off a man’s balls if given the chance.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And yet, it's still just an animal.
2 years ago
Anonymous
whats the source of that image?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now turn those absolute numbers into percentages and you might see the point. Those 3000 + 4000 aircraft? Since USSR wartime production was 142,000, this only comes down to 5%.The US did 30%.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wartime production was 142,000
Very useful, sitting on the wrong side of the Urals without fuel.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We never even wanted the lend-lease
2 years ago
Anonymous
Its not the faults of the giver that the german fighter pilots were downing the russians like a man with a flyswatter hitting flies in a bucket
He is right. Too. The Brits made a strong contribution of equipment to USSR including tanks. That the US volume eventually overshadowed the British wares is something else.
It's a matter of timing. British support was crucial during 1942, while the US was still mobilizing its factories and building up its fleet of cargo ships. Lend-Lease was present by Stalingrad, but Ivan didn't really start drinking from the firehose until 1943.
If there was any way to keep it conventional? Russia has been a threat to the entire world for more than a century now. It would be nice to deal with that threat once and for all.
However, Russia has nukes, and probably enough of them still work to deter anyone from marching on Moscow. Thus, the only real play is the same as in the Cold War: containment, let their own form of government eat them up from the inside. And this time, don't keep selling them food and other key items like the West did throughout the Cold War.
Don't forget putting itself on the path to becoming a Chinese vassal-state.
They might as well get in the Belt and Road now (if they haven't already) so they can experience the fullness of Chinese exploitation.
I fricking hope so, this is embarrassing but probably only yanks can push our morons in government to cleanse the army from all post-gommie betons and make them modernize ormy to acceptable standards
i think yanks are bankrolling the modernization so they will be also in charge of that. There's no fricking way we would be able to fund all this shit, himars, k2, ah64 recently
definitely
this is clearly an investment, we will pay for future modernizations and maintenance but most importantly they will have a safe situation in Europe with us as a meat shield kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
We're setting ourselves up for disaster imo. Once Russia becomes irrelevant (for the second time);and the U.S shifts its focus towards the Pacific I feel that our European allies are going to cut loose and go their own way... after we've pumped them full of hardware and know how. You can't be a meat shield because the enemy will not exist in a few years, so this is nothing but a boon for Europe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was saying that as a Pole. Murricans will be free to focus on the pacific with us as a meat shield pumped with your hardware in case ruskies will have any stupid ideas.
exactly right, after your prime minister complained of giving a blow job with nothing back from the US, suddenly next month you could buy 500 HIMARS, 350 M1s, 1000 K2s and 100 Apaches???!!!?
Dont stop with this until you hit the pacific
2 years ago
Anonymous
>after your prime minister complained of giving a blow job with nothing back from the US, suddenly next month you could buy 500 HIMARS, 350 M1s, 1000 K2s and 100 Apaches???!!!?
lol wut? post a source please
I'm afraid we're paying for most of that useless overpriced crap
We should be reducing mil spending now that the only possible direct threat is weakened, not line up the pockets of some israelites
But no, more debt, I'm sure Black person worshipers will praise us, totally worth it
2 years ago
Anonymous
so much this
poland should be demilitarized as soon as possible, having army is moronic, trust me
2 years ago
Anonymous
>of that useless overpriced crap
vatnik idi na chuj
One word, nukes
Russia will never be invaded. It'll be beaten back to its borders and left alone. Nuclear powers will never, ever be exposed to existential threats from an external party again
MAD is moronic when it comes to stupid shit like fighting over expansionism or third world pissholes, but when a country is faced with invasion and complete conquering, why wouldnt they take the gloves off?
I don't know about Finland, but Poland, yeah for sure. I think Finland is more or less, an army dedicated only for defense. Offense would mean a lot of casualties, and they can't afford that with their numbers.
Considering the Fins' training or the Poles' amount of hardware? Very plausible.
Russia is weak af and not only that, they literally cannot improvise. So if there's a surprise attack, Russia is fricked.
>they literally cannot improvise.
This is so amazing and our media was gearing us up with all that BTG talk, becuase Russia had supposedly streamlined its military after the Georgia fiasco and Chechnya.
The amazing thing is and hte point of the post: It's plausible that there is 'word of mouth' effort to keep any talk of Polish sanction against Russia from materializing.
Poland is feeling its oats though, with reparations talk about Germany being promoted by Russian propaganda, but why shouldn't POland be a bit aggressive to both german and russia? Poland's job is to tact like a canary between those two thugs.
>our media was gearing us up
It wasn't just the media. Our intelligence agencies had watched Russia operate in in Syria and was predicting them rolling Ukraine in weeks. We just didn't realize how bad the corporate/government corruption in Russia had gotten.
>Poles' amount of hardware?
what hardware mfer we literally don't have shit yet
Russia could just walk in here
Are you moronic?
we still have lots of stuff left - more problems with actual soldiers than hardware and remember that there are around 10k foreign troops with their equipment (and they have what we lack the most medium/long range AA systems....
but Petersburg is not a valid target - Kaliningrad/ Minsk would have to fall first....
Poland has enough abrams
If Poland were to declare general mobilisation for the purpose of killing Russians I'd get my dual citizenship done and ship myself over.
Can't think of a better way to honor my two polish parents than using them to shoot russians
>honor my two polish parents
Anon, all humans are honoured by killing the Demon Rus. Jesus didn't need to temporarily die on the cross - he just needed to kill the proto-Russian tribes and all sins are wiped clean.
Your first citizenship is Israeli. You simply want to steal from Poland like your israelite ancestors did.
>steal from Poland
What, on opposite day maybe
israelites want Khazaria back and that is eastern poland and western ukraine. israelites have been active in Poland trying to steal homes and land from Polish.
nah, it's australian. my parents fled communism pre 89.
dobze
dobrze? you fricking moron
reminds me of how germany expected soviet onion to last only few weeks because they struggled during winter war.
and then the soviets were pumped full of thick american cum
they only survived because the british kept them going with lend lease until the american stuff arrived a few years later.
The british? I think you mean the US!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
>92.7% of wartime railroad equipment and trains
>1/3 of USSR trucks
>30% of wartime fighter production
>8% of wartime tank production
>shitload of food and ammunition
Boris Vadimovich Sokolov:
>On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders
Nikita Khrushchev:
>He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war.
Georgy Zhukov:
>Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.
Joseph Stalin:
>"Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war
Read his post again moron
The post (your post, no need to pretend) is moronic because the Soviets were attacked by the Nazis mere months before the US joined WW2. How the frick would the British have anything to lend when they themselves depended on American aid during the course of the entire war?
kys tourist
>How the frick would the British have anything to lend when they themselves depended on American aid during the course of the entire war?
Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:
3,000+ Hurricane aircraft
4,000+ other aircraft
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
5,000+ anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn ($1.55bn) worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets
4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots
You are the tourist, FSB glowBlack person. Go to kauldron katsap
Oh and Russians never paid for any of it. And they never paid in full for the American lend lease either, the yanks wrote it off.
Russia literally got their asses aved for free and have NEVER shown any gratitude. You can rescue a mutt off the street, treat it well, feed it up and it will be your friend forever.
Even a dog knows gratitude, but Russians don't.
While we're on this subject, it's worth mentioning the time America went to war with Japan over China, and then China declared war on the US less than ten years later.
Well, USA sided with Chang Kai Shek's China. The commies won the civil war against him and those were the ones who fought USA. You may as well say that ANA Afghanistan and Taliban Afghanistan is the same thing, so why hasn't Karzai given back the Taliban the money he ran off with? It's the same state right?
The same gear the US gave to Russia they promptly gave to the chinese commies after the European theatre ended. Which means there's a good chance some US gear killed Americans in Korea
Absolutely
The other day there was a thread about a report done on a captured t34-85 in Korea. Turns out the t34 used American ball bearings. Supporting communists is always a huge fricking mistake.
FDR's fault, cutthroat politician when it came to Dixies or Germans, but wide eyed naive little boy when it came to commies.
He wanted to be a socialist tyrant just like Stalin.
You know that food didn't come from Russia, because it's loaded on pallets.
Delet this! Pallet's are western propaganda!
>delusional.jpg
Tbf you literally just cherrypicked the most grateful animal in existence. A dog will lick peanut butter off a man’s balls if given the chance.
And yet, it's still just an animal.
whats the source of that image?
Now turn those absolute numbers into percentages and you might see the point. Those 3000 + 4000 aircraft? Since USSR wartime production was 142,000, this only comes down to 5%.The US did 30%.
>wartime production was 142,000
Very useful, sitting on the wrong side of the Urals without fuel.
>We never even wanted the lend-lease
Its not the faults of the giver that the german fighter pilots were downing the russians like a man with a flyswatter hitting flies in a bucket
He is right. Too. The Brits made a strong contribution of equipment to USSR including tanks. That the US volume eventually overshadowed the British wares is something else.
It's a matter of timing. British support was crucial during 1942, while the US was still mobilizing its factories and building up its fleet of cargo ships. Lend-Lease was present by Stalingrad, but Ivan didn't really start drinking from the firehose until 1943.
China will prop them up in such a scenario
Only in this case Russia fills the role of (mid-1944) Hitler's Germany in every way, shape and form.
WRONG
they don't have paper divisions
they have paper battalion tactical groups
wtf do you want war with Russia??? Because this is how you get war with Russia...
Frick around and find out :^)
>be russia
>getting your shit kicked by a neighbor you invaded
>someone else shit talks you
>YOU WANNA FIGHT HUH?
i'm sure everyone is afraid
The US will give you a three year handicap and only use new manufactured gear with late 80s to early 90s aesthetics for ground forces.
>wtf do you want war with Russia?
Yes
I will gladly put down rabid RusBlack folk.
If there was any way to keep it conventional? Russia has been a threat to the entire world for more than a century now. It would be nice to deal with that threat once and for all.
However, Russia has nukes, and probably enough of them still work to deter anyone from marching on Moscow. Thus, the only real play is the same as in the Cold War: containment, let their own form of government eat them up from the inside. And this time, don't keep selling them food and other key items like the West did throughout the Cold War.
Wait so you’re NOT at war with NATO now?
Currently we have to travel to Ukrine to kill russians. Would be easier to just invade and reclaim Viipuri and Karjala.
>channeling the spirit of Lauri Törni
Unfathomably based.
Yes I want war
Indeed. Leveling every katsap city to pile of ash would be a pleasure.
>poles get there first
its a race then
I hate that ryan mcbeth homie like u wouldnt belive
why?
Empty bluster. Poland wishes It could do a fraction of what the Russinas hace done.
True, Poland wishes it could frick russia as hard as russia has fricked russia
Destroying its economy and geopolitical position in half a year?
Don't forget putting itself on the path to becoming a Chinese vassal-state.
They might as well get in the Belt and Road now (if they haven't already) so they can experience the fullness of Chinese exploitation.
A fraction of a failure is better than the whole failure
At this moment.
Everybody wanna frick Russia a new rape-hole
Russia never gonna recover from this
Poles are actually fricking delusional
It's full of shit because there's no yuri (girls' love) involved.
Bullshit sadly, poland has very low combat readiness and russian invasion on ukraine was a last wake up call for moronic politicians
this
also I want full debetonization of polish army
the future is looking bright my homies, the US will clean up this clusterfrick
I fricking hope so, this is embarrassing but probably only yanks can push our morons in government to cleanse the army from all post-gommie betons and make them modernize ormy to acceptable standards
i think yanks are bankrolling the modernization so they will be also in charge of that. There's no fricking way we would be able to fund all this shit, himars, k2, ah64 recently
definitely
this is clearly an investment, we will pay for future modernizations and maintenance but most importantly they will have a safe situation in Europe with us as a meat shield kek
We're setting ourselves up for disaster imo. Once Russia becomes irrelevant (for the second time);and the U.S shifts its focus towards the Pacific I feel that our European allies are going to cut loose and go their own way... after we've pumped them full of hardware and know how. You can't be a meat shield because the enemy will not exist in a few years, so this is nothing but a boon for Europe.
I was saying that as a Pole. Murricans will be free to focus on the pacific with us as a meat shield pumped with your hardware in case ruskies will have any stupid ideas.
exactly right, after your prime minister complained of giving a blow job with nothing back from the US, suddenly next month you could buy 500 HIMARS, 350 M1s, 1000 K2s and 100 Apaches???!!!?
Dont stop with this until you hit the pacific
>after your prime minister complained of giving a blow job with nothing back from the US, suddenly next month you could buy 500 HIMARS, 350 M1s, 1000 K2s and 100 Apaches???!!!?
lol wut? post a source please
You're most welcome Pole anon
If the Baltic wasn't already a NATO lake, we'd give you an aircraft carrier
I'm afraid we're paying for most of that useless overpriced crap
We should be reducing mil spending now that the only possible direct threat is weakened, not line up the pockets of some israelites
But no, more debt, I'm sure Black person worshipers will praise us, totally worth it
so much this
poland should be demilitarized as soon as possible, having army is moronic, trust me
>of that useless overpriced crap
vatnik idi na chuj
There's plenty of Russians to kill, I'm sure the Poles will be happy to share.
>some literal who on twitter says a thing
what do you think you absolute moron?
I just hope that the glowies have a plan to install actual decent leaders after the inevitable Putin ape out.
God, imagine having a Russia that’s pro-NATO, post-Marshall Plan 2.0.
never discount russians on the defensive
they will burn and booby trap
Russians are about as shit defensively as they are offensively.
Just do not invade during winter.
One word, nukes
Russia will never be invaded. It'll be beaten back to its borders and left alone. Nuclear powers will never, ever be exposed to existential threats from an external party again
MAD is moronic when it comes to stupid shit like fighting over expansionism or third world pissholes, but when a country is faced with invasion and complete conquering, why wouldnt they take the gloves off?
That's assuming russian nuclear arsenal can't be disabled beforehand.
just spent 11months there for uncle sam
got back in june, going back in december
at least i have my woman over there
I don't know about Finland, but Poland, yeah for sure. I think Finland is more or less, an army dedicated only for defense. Offense would mean a lot of casualties, and they can't afford that with their numbers.
Finland has more trained people than poland does currently.
Yes. The amount of hatred Indians and Pakis have for each other is nothing compared to Poland's lust for Russian blood.