Is this ok?
Shouldnt russia be second most powerful airforce in the world, according to US shilling?
Couldnt they find normal looking plane for kremlin porpaganda channel video, or is it best one left?
Why are there hammer sized dents?
WTF is that welding?
If it works, it works.
>If it works
This made me thinking. Those coffins can last another decade in best case.
Another argument for "this is the last war kremlin kgbists could wage before their population die out and everything turst into rust".
>Those coffins can last another decade in best case.
Maybe instead of making fake stealth planes, Russia should concentrate on making many new cheap ground attackers and Mig-29 and so on, if they have no way of competing with actual top of the line western planes anyway.
But this would of course destroy the illusion that Russia is capable to build these state of the art planes in front of their own citizenry, but i believe most Russians know it's all bullshit anyway, especially since they have access to Western internet sources.
>Maybe instead of making fake stealth planes, Russia should concentrate on making many new cheap ground attacker
And use them as surface-to-surface missles.
Russia actually made honest analysis of their AF ground attack capabilities and basically cancelled attack planes. Now they rely on long range guided weapons spam such as cruise missiles, Iranian flying moped, Lancets and long range glide bombs. Any illusions of close air support by mighty armored Sturmovik were abandoned. Russia went drones spam.
In hindsight Khrushchev ended 100% right. Fuck VVS in the ass, useless mouth breathers, missile is the way.
when will they cancel their worthless navy that is currently being bullied into submission by speedboat bombs?
>If it works, it works
not my problem
Not my problem :^)
jejsk
That's a pretty good picture.
>If
That thing doesn't work lol
You've got a bomb nose come flattened out. the wind resistance will tear the wing off. Lol my god why
>bomb nose cone
Actual retard or great b8
eh there is worse shit flying out there. The really retarded thing is the complete absence of pgms
>the wind resistance will tear the wing off
lolno. planes wings can resist from 3.8 to 7 times the weight of the aircraft. the damaged fuel tank nose cone will cause more drag causing a yaw to the right (in this loadout) decreasing range. it wont be able to cause enough twist to tear the wing off/ causing alieron reversal since this usually is only a problem at the tips.
That's not how capitalism works, goy.
A tank is a tank cumrade, now frontally assault the cum mound of Avdiivka with this T-54 and BTR-50.
That's the thing. It doesn't
>Shouldnt russia be second most powerful airforce in the world
No, it ranks fourth.
>1. United States Air Force - 5,217
>2. United States Army Aviation - 4,409
>3. United States Navy - 3,863
>4. Russian Air Force - 2,464
>5. People's Liberation Army Air Force - 1,991
But given the losses in Ukraine, it should be below chinks by now.
It gets even worse when you realise that air force strength is a function of both quality and quantity so several euro air forces likely sit above Russia despite fielding lower numbers. US Air dominance is just that extreme.
Yea the British, French and newly combined Scandi Air Force command thing could dogwalk Russia's air force
Anything with F35s would routinely beat the shit out of them
Of course, but it's hard to objectively quantify real capabilities.
So just going by the number of aircraft, Russia is maybe #5 biggest at the moment.
>by the number
If this is their best examples, to show off, who cares about numbers?
Why not count training planes at this point?
You forgot the Texas air national guard.
While the memes are amusing the 3170 number on wiki is personnell not planes, still they've got around 75 F-16s
>United States Army Aviation - 4,409
What's that, cargo and transport?
and helicopters
Count the types of screws.
so far I see six different types
>canopy oh how I fasten thee, let me count the ways
Underrated
Tool control fucking nightmare
So is there some oddball reason for this, or do russians just really hate mechanics?
Probably to make sure the retards assembling the canopy assembly and the ones doing maintenance on it use the right torque for those screws. Easier to force Igor to use the right tools when he can't fit the wrong one in there
Best guess. The slotted screws secure the outer trim piece through the actual canopy to the canopy frame, the philips heads go through the frame and secure something else on the other side, like a hinge or latch. The phillips are more likely to be removed by someone maintaining the plane, so the bit should cam out before overtorquing the screw and stripping the threads out.
plane is plane*~~
>it works
>it flies
>it kills ukies
What else do you want? A burger-tier CGI army?
They kill more Russians than anything in most cases.
It kills Russian pilots and demilitarizes Belgorod.
Russian aviation is fucking based.
Pilot put Moskva in his gps and the plane erroneously sent him to the reef instead of the city
damn right, now lets bomb Voronezh again
NYET! PLANE IS FINE!
Jokes aside though, these planes are getting old anon. With Su-25s we're talking planes built in the 80s, with many of the newer variants being upgrades slapped onto older airframes. The far fewer peacetime flight hours of the VKS also means their maintenance program was far less intensive than the US's.
On the topic of older airframes one of the guys at RAND puts Russian airframe losses solely due to the extra flight hours at 27-57 airframes (the variation comes from if you're looking at brand new airframes only or if you include older airframes with fewer remaining flight hours) from Feb '22 to August '23.
https://www.rand.org/blog/2023/08/the-uncounted-losses-to-russias-air-force.html
The US learned a similar lesson about maintenance attrition over the course of its time in the sandpit, but we could tank it due to having spare parts, a functional aerospace industry etc.
that poor aux fuel tank have gone through more domestic violence than the pilot's wife, tbh
>Couldnt they find normal looking plane for kremlin porpaganda (sic)
Friendly reminder that Russian propaganda was showing this fuckheap off as an innovative supply drone that would enable massively enhanced logistics
Lest we forget.
>the burning dumpster
I think it's a van or something, but yeah.
>If only you knew how bad things really are
That cut to Putin gazing wistfully out the window is what elevates that clip from good to great. It looks like its from a fucking sketch comedy show.
Honestly if it was cheap enough sure.
Bongs and the US are using something similar though they're more rectangle or curved.
It's just the next generation of glider resupply.
The boxy nature actually looks radar angled somehow so I can't really fault it except that it looks like ass.
Test
uh oh. ban evasion.
Is that an SU-25? why are they displaying what is essentially Russias A-10 as if that's something to brag about?
Russians win. Not do showcases.
>Is this ok?
>Shouldnt the USAF be the most powerful airforce in the world, according to US shilling?
>Why are there hammer sized dents?
>WTF is that welding?
Can you point to where you see the hammer sized dents? Or the bad welds?
The su24 is a 1960s subsonic CAS aircraft whereas the f22 is supposed to be a state of the art stealthy 5th gen air superiority fighter
Implessive.
Interesting, China can't into single piece canopy
Holy shit the chinks really did steal those plans did they?
I'm more betting on it being a cargo cult mentality that if they just make it look similar itll perform just as well.
It's far from an F-35 surely, but chinks aren't just retarded rice farmers and factory workers anymore.
With the amount of money behind them, and the number of them getting education in the West and then fucking off back to China, they are catching up.
Once they reach F-35 levels, if ever, we'll have advanced further too of course, but the gap is closing.
It really isn't.
There's been like 20 cases of US citizens (mostly chink americans but still) selling industrial and military secrets of varying severity. I'm pretty sure they got their hands on some part of the F-35 program. Even if it's just the external measurements and such it's still gold to the chinese. It's like how the russians copied the air intakes on the F-4 phantom when they built their mig-23, down to carrier-specific design elements like line cutters without knowing what it actually did
>It's like how the russians copied the air intakes on the F-4 phantom when they built their mig-23
this is literal boomer lore
>It's like how the soviets copied the air intakes on the F-4 phantom when they built their mig-23
But they are clearly different in your pics tho? Like even the geometry of the intake itself
The part he's talking about is the inside adjustable air slower-downer with the perforations
TZD, but I'd look at you after Afghanistan and 30 years of rotting. Ukraine, for example, has several Afghan veterans https://dumskaya.net/news/ukrainskie-shturmoviki-su-25-voevavshie-v-afgane-068640/ with 600, 900 sorties in Afghan and probably several hundred in the last 2 years. Though, Ukrainian MIC seems to be superior to russian judging by the condition of these planes
Honestly the russkies probably shot themselves in the foot trying to maintain such massive inventories of materiel, but then again they'v torched through what they've had at an alarming rate, so maybe they were right.
Maybe, maybe not. All those Su and MiGs were designed for a different country, by a different country. All their flaws and advantages were justified inside of soviet system, same as seemingly bad-performing S-series AD were designed to work in several echelons of state-wide AD system together with S-200, Buks, S-125, etc. that had decayed like 80% since 1991
>Why are there hammer sized dents?
>WTF is that welding?
I wouldn't go to sea in this object, much less fly.
You ever see a close up of an a-10? They look beat to shit too. Nose dented skin repair patches everywhere.
Where are all the Su-27s and Su-30s?
>Shouldnt russia be second most powerful airforce in the world, according to US shilling?
The US intentionally vastly overstates the capabilities of its geopolitical rivals and whines about how useless its allies are to justify the massively inflated military budget that keeps its similarly massively inflated economic system operating smoothly by enforcing a permanent (relative) peace on the developed world. When China fails to launch rockets we were doing routinely forty years ago, no military member goes "see? they're so weak we've got this." They say "they'll fix that soon. We should invest in our rocket and anti-air programs".
Bottom half of the thumbnail is fucking with me, the cockpit looks like Cirno