is this normal?

Dishwasher is leaving grit in the dishes. Not sure if this just an "it is what it is" situation, like if this is a normal amount of grit and just rinse it out it won't kill you, or if something's wrong with it. Things I've tried so far:
>clean air gap + hose
>clean drain hose
>clean filter
>sprayed dishwasher with industrial cleaner
>run cycles with bleach
>run cycles with vinegar
>spray arms seem fine
>hot water functions just fine
>do long cycles
pls halp, sorry if this is a stupid question

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can not say that i have seen this. I do go out of my way to prevent any bowls or cups to catch water, just out of habit.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Putting your dishes in too dirty, it's not a disposal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, I knew I was forgetting something in the OP. These dishes are going in completely and totally clean, no food whatsoever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop putting them in the dishwasher in such a way that shit stays in them you fucking retard.
      You wouldn't put a bowl upright so that it could gather water.

      You don't have to prewash your dishes. Only a retard would waste time doing that.
      Use normal powder detergent and use the prewash.

      https://i.imgur.com/FVSeYkC.jpg

      Try Cascade Platinum. It works well in my Frigidaire dishwasher.

      FUCKING moron PIECE OF SHIT TAB SELLER
      MORE EXPENSIVE, WORSE AT CLEANING, FUCKING GARBAGE, DIE DIE DIE DIE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >don't prewash your dishes!
        yeah fuck you, unless you're running that shit immediately after you're done eating that stuff sticks on there like glue. It's like trying to get the shit caked on your toilet off by blasting it with piss, good luck with that buddy.
        until a dishwasher grows arms and steel wool I don't trust it to wash it right.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a combination of two things. You have hard water and also all modern dishwashers don't work properly. New appliances are JUNK.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here's another picture from a few days ago, could hard water really be the cause here? It looks like food detritus almost, even though we haven't even put anything with food on it in it.

      I have the same problem with my dishwasher. It's only a couple years old but was one of the cheapest models. The landlord said he only buys cheap appliances, even for his home, because they wear out fast. He has five kids, a wife, and his in-laws living with him so it's not surprising they get a lot of abuse. Sucks for me that he didn't pay a bit more for a better dishwasher as this house was a gut and rebuild the interior before I moved in, but I understand why a landlord might he hesitant given what shitbags some tenants can be.
      My guess is that the pumps are undersized and don't produce enough water pressure to clear the debris off all the dishes. Modern dishwashers use very little water because they recycle it through each cycle. There is a disposal for grinding up food, but that just gets you smaller debris that made it through the filter sprayed onto your dishes.

      That sucks and is probably exactly what's happening here. Can anything be done about it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go do your own research, but

        I have the same problem with my dishwasher. It's only a couple years old but was one of the cheapest models. The landlord said he only buys cheap appliances, even for his home, because they wear out fast. He has five kids, a wife, and his in-laws living with him so it's not surprising they get a lot of abuse. Sucks for me that he didn't pay a bit more for a better dishwasher as this house was a gut and rebuild the interior before I moved in, but I understand why a landlord might he hesitant given what shitbags some tenants can be.
        My guess is that the pumps are undersized and don't produce enough water pressure to clear the debris off all the dishes. Modern dishwashers use very little water because they recycle it through each cycle. There is a disposal for grinding up food, but that just gets you smaller debris that made it through the filter sprayed onto your dishes.

        is exactly right. There's no simple fix, modern appliances are just shitty. Try cleaning out the drain and whatnot again and run water through or something. This guy explains things well;

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ... I mean, will it hurt me to just rinse it off? or will it just be an xp bonus to my immune system

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/OjX33qC.png

        Dishwasher is leaving grit in the dishes. Not sure if this just an "it is what it is" situation, like if this is a normal amount of grit and just rinse it out it won't kill you, or if something's wrong with it. Things I've tried so far:
        >clean air gap + hose
        >clean drain hose
        >clean filter
        >sprayed dishwasher with industrial cleaner
        >run cycles with bleach
        >run cycles with vinegar
        >spray arms seem fine
        >hot water functions just fine
        >do long cycles
        pls halp, sorry if this is a stupid question

        stop loading your dishwasher wrong
        none of the dishes should be positioned so that water remains in them after washing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >out of sight, out of mind

          https://i.imgur.com/FVSeYkC.jpg

          Try Cascade Platinum. It works well in my Frigidaire dishwasher.

          I have a kenmore, like a really shitty one. Might just call the kenmore guy or something.

          OP Read the manual to your dishwasher and watch this video

          Seconded. Using powder detergent for pre-wash as well as purging hot water before running the machine has given me perfect results every time. No need to wash or rinse dishes beforehand, just scrape the large chunks of food off.

          I just don't understand how too much detergent or the wrong detergent would lead to food debris (that's not from our dishes)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you've actually exhausted all the other usual possibilities (you haven't even tried them as evidenced by this thread) then you can check where the drain hose hooks into your drain. If it's right next to the garbage disposal then it can sometimes get debris in it and get clogged. But you don't sound like you even considered not putting those cups in sideways, so I shouldn't even mention other extraneous conclusions for you to jump to.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I literally mentioned in the OP that I cleaned the drain hose already

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>out of sight, out of mind
            No motherfucker, you're basically panning for gold except using your ugly gay mugs and catching foul bits of half enzyme digested food instead of gold nuggets.
            The fucking manual for your dishwasher will tell you this; arrange items so water can't accumulate.
            You fucking deserve this.
            Eat the filth.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/RSjVhAz.jpg

              Stop putting them in the dishwasher in such a way that shit stays in them you fucking retard.
              You wouldn't put a bowl upright so that it could gather water.

              You don't have to prewash your dishes. Only a retard would waste time doing that.
              Use normal powder detergent and use the prewash.

              [...]
              FUCKING moron PIECE OF SHIT TAB SELLER
              MORE EXPENSIVE, WORSE AT CLEANING, FUCKING GARBAGE, DIE DIE DIE DIE

              You're not understanding. I wouldn't put the bowls in like this (gf loaded the dishwasher), I just noticed the grit and thought, "huh, that's odd. I wonder if that's normal" so I put the bowls in like that again to inspect the grit. What I don't know and what I'm asking is, is this to be expected. Half the people ITT are saying "yes, that's why you don't put your bowls in in such a manner that will collect the grit" and the other half are saying "this is a problem with your sprayer hose / city water / overloading the washer / your soap" etc

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well yea, of course some grit is to be expected.
                Have you ever disassembled a water heater before? It's fucking gnarly.
                But it's generally nothing that'll kill you, that's why it's acceptable. I believe that most appliances come with some form of coarse particle filter on the water intake to prevent most of this (at least my washing machine did) but ultimately it's unavoidable due to the fact that it's literal pipes put in by literal people that pass literal water from a literally open reservoir that actual people can enter.
                It's not a health hazard, but it's inevitable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright, as long as it's not a health hazard I'm not super pressed about it.

                https://i.imgur.com/kWDKN7k.jpg

                hey OP, do you by chance have a well?

                If you do, try unscrewing the aerator on any sink in the house and check it for debris. If you find some junk you may want to think about getting a whole home filtration system to take that shit out.

                No well that I know of

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                if you don't have any food particles on the dishes when they are loaded correctly, then your dishwasher is working perfectly fine

                can't believe I have to clarify this for an adult

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're still not reading or understanding and acting smugly superior at your complete lack of comprehension of the situation, stop replying to my thread and have a nice day now thanks

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you're asking if it's normal to have food left over on the dishes

                no, it's not, load your shit correctly and your dishwasher will stop leaving shit on your dishes

                do you really think that dishwashers magically go against gravity? how does the water flow upside down to clear out debris from inside the dish? unless you have nozzles on every side of your dishwasher, it's physically impossible for the water to have enough pressure to push crap out of the bowl. have you ever tried to wash a pop bottle in a dishwasher and got upset when it didn't get clean, because the water couldn't shoot up the skinny mouth of the bottle?

                I can't explain this ANYMORE simpler to you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                didn't read any of that, wasn't kidding about hanging yourself

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, you read every word and got butthurt because you realized how dumb you are

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I really didn't, seethe about it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're not understanding. I wouldn't put the bowls in like this (gf loaded the dishwasher), I just noticed the grit and thought, "huh, that's odd. I wonder if that's normal" so I put the bowls in like that again to inspect the grit.
                I must of missed this when you said it in the OP that you intentionally loaded the bowls upside down with the intention of them catching all of the dirty water.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Can anything be done about it?
        Your dishwasher should have a self cleaning mode. It rinses out everything

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have the same problem with my dishwasher. It's only a couple years old but was one of the cheapest models. The landlord said he only buys cheap appliances, even for his home, because they wear out fast. He has five kids, a wife, and his in-laws living with him so it's not surprising they get a lot of abuse. Sucks for me that he didn't pay a bit more for a better dishwasher as this house was a gut and rebuild the interior before I moved in, but I understand why a landlord might he hesitant given what shitbags some tenants can be.
    My guess is that the pumps are undersized and don't produce enough water pressure to clear the debris off all the dishes. Modern dishwashers use very little water because they recycle it through each cycle. There is a disposal for grinding up food, but that just gets you smaller debris that made it through the filter sprayed onto your dishes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/aQ6CeLD.jpg

      Here's another picture from a few days ago, could hard water really be the cause here? It looks like food detritus almost, even though we haven't even put anything with food on it in it.
      [...]
      That sucks and is probably exactly what's happening here. Can anything be done about it?

      if the dishwashers are leaving that kind of grit on your dishes, it's more a problem with the city water. The only time I've seen that kind of grit in my water is if there was a problem with the mains. You can filter it out with a lot of residential water conditioners, but you should not have to. This is something that is happening between the water treatment facilities and your home.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To elaborate on this, it can take a month or two for that kind of sediment to wash out of the pipes if it was a problem with mains. It depends on how bad of a bust it was, how long it lasted, and how much sediment flushed your direction before it eventually flushes out, your way, or someone else's way.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also I forgot to state the obvious that your pic isn't hard water it's food particles. You need to keep everything in the dishwasher upside down. No keeping those cups sideways, and if they don't fit anywhere else on the rack then handwash them only.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      but eating off the plates won't kill me or nothin yeah?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It probably will but hey... who wants to live forever, right?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Run finish brand dishwasher cleaner through it. If nothing else it will smell really nice for a week. Also make sure you use rinse aid, not just detergent. Mine has a rinse aid dispenser that you don't have to fill every wash but I usually top it off anyways.

    As a last resort consider adding TSP (sodium triphosphate) to your wash, like a quarter cup per load. It's banned from household detergents now but it used to be in them and people that remember will tell you they used to work better. I keep some around for really dirty loads of laundry and it does help.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be poorfag child
    >parents get richer a little bit
    >be normal
    >get a dishwasher
    >YAAAAY I WONT HAVE TO FIGHT WITH MY SISTER EVERY DAY ON WHO GETS TO WASH CLEAN AND DRY AAALL THE DISHES WITH A SPONGE AND DISH DETERGENT
    >put dirty dishes into a dishwasher
    >notice it shoots water from below so position dishes, cups and utensils accordingly
    >put tabs in their place, shiner liquid and everything
    >choose the hardest program
    >it ends after long time
    >half the dishes are still very dirty but smell nice
    >oh well, it seems we have to wash the dishes before putting them in a DISH WASHER

    ITS A LIE
    ITS ALL LIES

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bad dishwasher
      plates, cutlery, mugs, etc should be cleaned easily
      pots, especially burnt shit not so much

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Water is probably escaping around some seals.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP Read the manual to your dishwasher and watch this video

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seconded. Using powder detergent for pre-wash as well as purging hot water before running the machine has given me perfect results every time. No need to wash or rinse dishes beforehand, just scrape the large chunks of food off.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try Cascade Platinum. It works well in my Frigidaire dishwasher.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly your cups need to be facing down so they drain.

    The eating surfaces should face spray arms, and be able to drain completely. Otherwise it's not really a valid dishwasher position stop trying to overload your dishwasher

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never used the dishwasher in my apartment because of this, I just hand wash it after use and use the dishwasher as a drying rack. Never had any problems this way.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The grit is the tablet, its in there because when rinsing, it cannot get enough water in there to carry the grit out, turn your cups upside down and or run the dishwasher how its supposed be run, 65% full, no more.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hey OP, do you by chance have a well?

    If you do, try unscrewing the aerator on any sink in the house and check it for debris. If you find some junk you may want to think about getting a whole home filtration system to take that shit out.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Guys I loaded my dishes wrong in my dishwasher and they didn't get clean
    >Guys how do I fix this????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      didn't read any of that, wasn't kidding about hanging yourself

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    First thought that came to mind is that you're on well and that it's past time to replace your filter.
    The other thought is that it's rust from your hot water tank.
    Further out possibility is that it's from city supply; if you have a utility sink, try running both cold and hot water through it, if you see grit in both, then it's a supply issue. If you see grit only in the hot water, it's probably the tank.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    step 1:empty and rinse the salt container and the siphon mesh
    step2: dump a cup of 30% vinegar or 2 cups regular strenght in your machine and run the hottest program your machine has
    step3: check your siphon mesh again if there is grit repeat step 1 and 2
    step4: dump 2-3 tbs of baking soda in your machine and 2-3tbs citric acid powder in your detergent chamber ( alternatively use as much vinegar as you can fit)

    this should get rid of most gunk that accumulates in your machine.
    to prevent further buildup repeat this cleaning routine 1-2 times a year and regularly fill your salt container with dishwashing salt. dont believe the crap that gets written on the all in one tabs of not needing any more salt if you use them you will ultimately destroy your machine if you dont use salt and have hard water.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how many people who live in places with hard water assume everyone does too.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    alternative theory: the black particles are chunks of something inside the washer that got damaged from you putting the chemicals you said you did in the OP. seals or something

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