The idea is this:
The Company's commander is a Captain (O-3).
The Company's XO is a First LT (O-2). This position is temporary.
The Platoons' commanders are First LTs (O-2s)
The Platoons' XOs are 2nd LTs (O-1s).
The promotion time to Captain (O-3) is moved from 4 to 7 years. O-1 to O-2 becomes 3 years, and O-2 to O-3 becomes 4 years.
Second LTs (O-1s) will learn the Platoon Commander's job for 3 years from their First LTs. The First LTs will command their Platoons and then rotate to do a 1-year tour as the Company XO. This means that First LTs (O-2s) will rotate command of all the different platoons and serve 1 year each as the company's XO to prepare them for their next assignment as Captains.
The other promotions will be a little quicker instead of the usual 6 years to go from O-4, O-5 and O-6, it will take about 5 years to make O-6 at 22 years.
Maybe if you had a small standing army and a surplus of officers, like the US after the Civil War, when the army was split up into many small units distributed across a wide area.
Otherwise this is just a waste of officers and a waste of time. You end up with captains who have eleven years in a line unit and little to no further education to prepare them for greater responsibility. There is a reason that staff rotations exist. Having to train a new JO every year or two when you are senior enlisted sucks, but that's your job as the actual expert.
Why surplus? A company has 3 to 4 platoons
It's bascically done inside of a single company only one time
A single company does not require ten officers as described in the OP (CO, XO, 4 PLs, 4 APLs). It's also a terrible idea to keep your junior officers stuck in a single company for the first seven years of their career. Why would ambitious young officers put up with that?
There are currently 6 officers in a company. Excluding augmentations.
Most junior officers serve within the same company until they make O-3.
Yeah, but not for seven to twelve years as the OP describes. It's a dumb idea that would encourage motivated young officers to get out of the military and pursue other opportunities where there is room for advancement.
Why twelve years? He said 7 instead of 4.
The mutt command structure is completely and utterly retarded. It's an ass-kissing corporate rat race full of micro-transactions masquerading as a military command structure, it's literally the most israeli thing ever created and I find it hilarious that mutt soldiers defend it to the death despite it being so retarded
The first rank is split into micro ranks like PV1 PV2 PFC and SPC which all mean the same thing and all carry the same level of responsibility - nothing. However if you have College behind you then you get to jump the queue and enlist as a PFC ahead of your peers, a literal pay-to-win israeli scheme which destroys unit cohesion amongst the other ranks
Then the second you promote you start a never-ending ass-kissing race where you are forced to fuck over everyone around you to promote as fast as possible because if you don't make rank like a good goy then you literally get kicked out of the military for not promoting fast enough and not sucking israeli cock hard enough and being a slave of israel 365 days per year sweeping the parking lot at 2300hrs on a saturday night
Then when you hit 20 years service you get booted into homelessness and replaced in an instant
So many buzzwords and so little knowledge.
>mutt blindly defends his retarded system
Let's describe the British system
Private (in charge of himself)
Lance Corporal (in charge of a fireteam, 2IC of a section)
Corporal (in charge of an 8-man Section)
Sergeant (the Platoon Sergeant)
Warrant Officer Class 2 (the Company Sergeant Major)
Warrant Officer Class 1 (the Regimental Sergeant Major)
That's literally all you need, you fucking retards
Also this is ignorant beyond belief. Within those ranks are a multitude of pay grades and levels of responsibility.
A signals corporal will often earn more than an infantry corporal, because he has more specialised knowledge. He often has more responsibility as well.
>picks obscure example
>le different responsibilities
explain why an infantryman in the US Army needs FOUR FUCKING RANKS WHICH ARE ALL THE SAME?
>Picks obscure example
>Corps of signals is obscure
>One of the largest corps in the entire army is "obscure"
Well that's just rude. And also hurtful.
Having different paygrades provides an incentive toward good behavior. It also naturally establishes seniority within a unit. You know an E-4 has been there longer and has more experience than an E-1.
I take it you weren't in the military?
>You know an E-4 has been there longer and has more experience than an E-1.
Bullshit. In my unit the most experienced and longest serving junior enlisted were all E-1s.
>Longest serving junior enlisted were E-1s
So they were huge fuckups?
Hpw do you differentiate between a new boot private and one with experience? In the US we do so by paying the latter more.
>be private 3 months out of training
>deploy to war alongside private with 4 years in service
>both assume the same role and responsibilities
>both are led by the next rank up (sgt in mutt army and lcpl in british system)
It's irrelevant how long someone has been in service if they're the same rank. Why are you so insistent upon having literal good boy points pinned to your chest?
Fucking retard homosexual I've served longer than you in the Australian Defence Force and there is literally zero reason to have 4 different ranks for a Private. In the ADF if you've been a Private for 1 year you get the suffix (P) after your rank so you become a Private (P) which has zero impact on your job description, roles or responsibilities. You don't need to pin a whole new rank on someone's chest for showing up to work for a year you dumb fuck.
No one fucking said you can't have people with experience in a fucking unit. You don't need to invent 4 fucking bullshit ranks which mean nothing. Experience also means fuck all since US Infantry squads are micro-managed down to the man. You have a separate Sergeant for each fireteam and then you have a Staff Sergeant just floating in-between in overall command. You clog your units full of middle managers it's retarded. Your entire system is retarded.
Let's describe Officers in the British Army
Lieutenant (the Platoon Commander)
Captain (the Company 2IC)
Major (the OC)
Lieutenant Colonel (the CO)
you don't need fucking 2 types of Lieutenants you micro-transaction israeli homosexual
That's interesting, because we do have second lieutenants in the british army.
t. was one
You forgot that they're also all homosexual.
>going to college is pay-to-win israelitery
You're so demoralized it's not even funny
He's literally a retard masquerading as a brit.
See
>Then when you hit 20 years service you get booted into homelessness and replaced in an instant
You can stay beyond 20 even as enlisted. I didn't bother reading the rest of your post
>your brain on /misc/
So are you like that all the time or just for the Internet?
Oh wow it's the autist who's permanently assmad about a rank structure he'll never participate in
I forget the last thread I saw you in but I'm glad to see you still looking for a tardwrangler
>college degree can enlist as a specialist not a pfc
>you're only describing the army as the marines have more responsibilities
If you're going to try to be an arrogant homosexual Brit, at least know what you're talking about. You could have simply googled the college degree thing easily. you already know of the concept, it's a simple as a google search. You could have also googled the differences between the usmc and the army.
Terrible idea. You missed staff jobs too. O3s job is to learn how to do O4s job etc. O3s spend years on staff running the army.
Why terrible? How long is a staff job? I mean you'd still be able to squeeze a staff job billet in 5 years instead of 6.
>terrible
Officers are journeymen not experts; they need to be learning the next job and spending 3+ years leading a company isn’t that, spending a total of 6 years leading platoons isn’t that. Hell, PLs are the least necessary position in the company and make a marginal difference; the PSG is really the one running the show. Those LTs need to be moved up to captain because there is a huge fuckin demand for staffers; junior captains in the 3 shop writing FRAGOs, senior captains doing OPORDS for the O4, hell brigade and higher staff all need their own captains to do the paperwork load. A battalion in the field needs a night and day TOC lead, for example. Brigade staff needs tons of them to do battle tracking. How many O3s do you think are rowing the boat at the pentagon? The demand for literate warm bodies to write things is huge. The reason for captains isn’t command and the reason for lieutenants is to prep them for captain. There’s no value in keeping someone who has ‘learned the job’ past 1, maybe 1.5 years in the seat.
This is why there are many land whale mouthbreathers in the ranks doing powerpoints that will smoke subordinates for writing powerpoints in calibri 14 instead of Times New Roman 12. It's retarded bullshit.
>t. Always forgets to put 5 spaces above the signature block and is still mad about it
If your leaders don't talk about violence, fire support, SIGMAN, ISR, Collection Plans, HF/SATCOM, Class I III IV, prolonged casualty care — they're not it.
Yes yes, we know you need your lickies and chewie and smokies, we have those line items on the briefing plan for a reason. You are following the 3 shop briefing plan right?
>Says lickies and chewies
>It's Army speak
Opinion disregarded.
>he thinks the enlisted can read
Mmmm oh no no no
The difference between a brand new 2ndLt and a 1stLt about to pin O-3/EAS is massive.
If you told me I'd have to wait another 3 years for captain at my 4 I would've gotten the fuck out. Only very junior enlisted thing company grade O's actually have the power to make decisions. For the most part you just color in the lines.
It's not purely time-in-grade that makes the difference between what you view as a good vs. bad platoon commander or XO. Its the fact that everyone they interact with upstairs sees one bar on their collar and couldn't give two shits about what they think is best.
The culture would have to change. Should be cooler to serve and learn. That would also solve the butterbar problem.
I think we should just battlefield commission the enlisted who think they know everything about officer life and watch them struggle.
Half the shit you guys complain about is because you lack perspective of how shit actually works behind closed doors. It's not until SSgt that you guys are put in a position to truly understand it.
lmao have a nice day
t. former enlisted turned officer and better than you
waaaaaahhhh i just commissioned why do all my peers not know shit im so much better waaaahhh
Not an enlisted.
Many Lts don't become Captain and quit in a few years
Most officers will just try to become a Captain, be in some form of leadership position in a few years before they quit
There's a DoD document out there that details that Major is the first major filter for officers
If an officer reaches Major after a decade they usually stick around but only a small handful will become full birds and only the best dicksuckers become generals
Officers can't be E-4 mafia4lyfe, they can't be stuck at O-2 or O-3 for too long
Terminal Captain is a meme for this reason. The incompetence of O-3s is still a thing...
Captain are guaranteed for most officers, they just need to put in the time and some schools
Many Lts will leave the military just after few years while the ones who stick around a little longer will become O-3
Then they'll realize they need to put an entire decade plus change and most will quit after a few years just so they can put in their resume that they were a Captain """leading""" men in the US military even though they're a S-3 desk jockey and most of the work is being done by SFC
And that's the issue. A lot of stuff would have to change
Those modern tacticool sunglasses look horrible. what are you, robocop? Return to tradition
What's with all of these retarded threads about military progression where you make random ass changes for no reason. did you do the autistic "i think spec ops should have to go through a bunch of MOSes to unlock being a l33t operator" post? It had the same sort of retardation.
Everybody finds the "multiple ranks for the same thing", thing very retarded.
I was in the military for nearly a decade and never once heard anyone even mention that. Rank signifies experience and level of responsibility, not someone's position.
I guess if you have no experience with the military and the closest you ever get to it are platoon weapon charts it would look dumb. Did you come up with this after reading a platoon weapon chart?
You're going to get even more mad when you realize people frequently fulfill positions above or below the rank they're at.
why does a platoon need an XO?
Because butterbars are dumb
Go back to the academy you shiny homosexual, I'm busy standing around waiting for you to finish looking like you're doing something while the CC is around dtr4w8