Is there actually a chance Boeing could go bust or be split-up?

Is there actually a chance Boeing could go bust or be split-up? Shit looks like a huge shakeup of the defence aerospace sector unless the US government is preparing a huge bailout to keep it running until it squares itself away.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt it anon. Despite Boeing commercial being a bit of a clusterfrick, Boeing Space being a complete joke (starliner lmao) and Boeing military having some issues (nuts and bolts in the wings cough cough) it's still such a large company with so many different products that it's not going to be split up.

    We might see more Airbus procurement in US airlines though, which is huge considering how large the US airline industry is. As for contracts, Boeing will likely get a huge contract in the next 5 years or so that'll continue until the 2050s or some shit. Nothing new under the sun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The feds wont let Boeing go bust but if it gets bad enough they will have to intervene in some way. Likely a bailout, nationalization isn't politically viable and Lockheed, Northrop, spacex etc would all sue anyways. Any bailout would likely include terms about restructuring and temporarily put them under some official control to unfrick their business. Sorta like we saw with the car makers in 2008 or when businesses go into chapter 11.

      Yeah I agree with this anon, I think at most you'll see Boeing have parts split off it and those parts given massive bailouts. Boeing Commercial Airplanes is NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVER, going to be allowed to shut. Boeing is a joke but Boeing's commercial aircraft are unironically a national asset and there's no other company available that could on short notice take over that department and keep it running. Maybe Lockheed but even that's a stretch. If the entire company went bust you'd see BCA split off and turned into its own company.

      your forefathers said the same thing about outfits like standard oil. There is no such thing as too big to fail

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you learned how to read you'd be able to tell that I'm not saying Boeing is too big to fail, I'm saying that the specific parts of Boeing that actually produce important shit are too big to fail. Boeing, the parent company, is not going to be protected by the US Government unless it's seen as the only way to keep the important parts of it working.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Boeing has lost its usefulness. They’re only around because they won lowest bidder on munitions and comercial aircraft sold to other nations.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There is no such thing as too big to fail
        No, but that won't stop politicians from throwing money at their buddies and with the excuse of "too big to fail".

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The feds wont let Boeing go bust but if it gets bad enough they will have to intervene in some way. Likely a bailout, nationalization isn't politically viable and Lockheed, Northrop, spacex etc would all sue anyways. Any bailout would likely include terms about restructuring and temporarily put them under some official control to unfrick their business. Sorta like we saw with the car makers in 2008 or when businesses go into chapter 11.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I agree with this anon, I think at most you'll see Boeing have parts split off it and those parts given massive bailouts. Boeing Commercial Airplanes is NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVER, going to be allowed to shut. Boeing is a joke but Boeing's commercial aircraft are unironically a national asset and there's no other company available that could on short notice take over that department and keep it running. Maybe Lockheed but even that's a stretch. If the entire company went bust you'd see BCA split off and turned into its own company.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Boeing is the US commercial aircraft industry. Everyone else is small potatoes both in market share and size of their aircraft. The days of multiple airliner makers are long over. And I doubt Lockheed has any appetite to reenter the market. I could see the feds making Boeing split their defense and commercial sides to isolate the cancer as much as possible and keep the commercial business from taking the defense side down. Might be too little too late given how the KC-46 and T-7 have been going. But it is what it is. What Boeing needs is a complete culture reset. Most managers are probably tainted and should be let go. But such a purge is not something that you can do overnight. Try and you'll just make the company implode.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think they need to be broken up at this point, that's my opinion on most large American companies. Apple, Alphabet and Microsoft are more examples of companies that really need to be broken up. Microsoft in particular holy frick the grift is so heavy with them, the amazingly competent Windows developers doing incredible shit subsidize the jobs of thousands of people doing stupid shit like Cortana and now Copilot. It's a joke.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh or that Microsoft engineer recently who got annoyed at a certain open source library taking 400 ms to do something and discovering a sophisticated backdoor campaign. Those people are golden, random people shitting up things just for the sake of it need to go.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Microsoft chilled the frick out for a while after the antitrust investigation in the 90's. I think they've gone too long without getting slapped. Windows 11 is now forcing ads and they've gone back to tying their browser to the OS which was cause for the antitrust probe to begin with. Nadella needs to be grilled in front of congress. Apple needs it too. They've gotten away with being anti competitive for decades. Now they are the most valuable company in the world all from rent seeking, they probably need it the most. Google can just be solved by a federal data protection law. they have a lot of arms but aren't nearly as anticompetitive as the other two. They just know too much about everyone and profit from it.

            [...]
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            your forefathers said the same thing about outfits like standard oil. There is no such thing as too big to fail

            I didn't say they were too big to fail. I said the government wouldn't let them completely fail because they are a national asset. there's a big difference between propping up a failed business and protecting the assets it holds. Standard oil didn't completely fail either, they were broken up but the US maintained its oil industry. Boeing as a legal entity doesn't have to survive. The US position in the airline industry does.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You really don't know much of anything about tech. Google as a whole dominates the entire global email market and by extension the entirety of email as a whole. Then Microsoft scoops the rest leaving literal single % points to be divied up by others. These two companies control email and can shut out any nonconformers they wish to and frequently do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol and? Do you think Google and Microsoft will just hold email ransom if the government regulates them? You are a moron. Google isn't doing much that would qualify as anticompetitive but their data practices are problematic. Microsoft and Apple are doing many anticompetitive things.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you think Google and Microsoft will just hold email ransom if the government regulates them?
                Microsoft lobbied the IRS' budget and competence down to the point that it can't audit it anymore, so yes. But the fact that there's still the possibility of all executives being suicided means they're unlikely to do so against something that people care about - tax evasion is one of the most important ways corporations destroy things, but it's not sexy and publicly digestible.
                >Google isn't doing much that would qualify as anticompetitive
                rofl

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Microsoft lobbied the IRS' budget and competence down to the point that it can't audit it anymore, so yes
                These things come in waves and on the whim of an executive who has a bone to pick simple as. If Microsoft runs afoul of Washington there's little they can do to resist.
                >rofl
                Ok list them.

                https://i.imgur.com/2hYomo3.jpg

                I love guys like you. Email is already being held ransom moron. You can't send email unless you use the big two. They frequently blacklist any one not hosting in them. In fact they will do so silently causing massive issues. And how do you send email? By agreeing to their TOS. Google is one of the major monopolies and is going to be in the future

                >Email is already being held ransom moron.
                Having a successful product is not "holding it ransom" moron. Show me a case where google or Microsoft even dared to pull data in retaliation to regulation. I'll wait. And if you really do work for Microsoft and aren't a contractor you're already on my shit list for other reasons. IYKYK .

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Doesn't know badge color
                >Doesn't know shit but keeps yapping
                Here's an example of MSFT compromising privacy of someone leaking their info https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft-takes-heat-after-snooping-in-email-leak-case/

                https://www.justice.gov/atr/competitive-processes-anticompetitive-practices-and-consumer-harm-software-industry-analysis

                Did you know MSFT and Google will employ PhDs simply so no one else can, then send them to work on nothing? Did you know MSFT doesn't allow customers to leave by refusing to provide data export so that they can easily use another environment, did you know they employ entire dedicated teams to ripping data from other services so they can use MSFT? Did you know they use private code hosted in GitHub to train their AI models and to learn what are common industry flows? Of course not because you don't know anything about tech

                https://tuta.com/blog/gmail-independent-email/

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tuta
                This is what’s wrong with you wagies. You consume and fall for the glowie honeypots because your favorite breadtuber told you so. Real men build their own e-mail servers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I asked for proof of Microsoft retaliating to being regulated. And you posted irrelevant shit.
                >Posts Microsoft misconduct
                >Posts case details on Microsoft getting regulated.
                That proves my point.
                >Did you know MSFT owns github and does work in AI? They host their proprietary code there.
                No shit sherlock. Did you know they also have a major stake in OpenAI?
                >Did you know MSFT doesn't allow customers to leave by refusing to provide data export so that they can easily use another environment,
                lol I've offboarded data from 365 before you're full of shit.
                > did you know they employ entire dedicated teams to ripping data from other services
                Everyone does, scraping is legal
                >Did you know MSFT and Google will employ PhDs simply so no one else can
                Everyone was doing that a few years ago but there's been massive layoffs since because its ultimately unsustainable.

                >These things come in waves and on the whim of an executive who has a bone to pick simple as.
                What exactly do you mean by that? I'm sorry, I just don't understand the sentence, or what relevance it has. I think I'm missing something, so could I beg of you to rewrite it to help me out?
                >Ok list them.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2020)
                Here you go, that's just the ones they thought they could fight in court, and not the other ones that are obviously wrong but might have wiggle room.

                Eh I considered it a weak case when they started it. Who cares that Google pays to be the default search engine on iPhones. That Apple doesn't let you run any other browser in the iOS is a much bigger problem. Google's biggest sin IMO in terms of anticompetitivness is the play store but its not as egregious as Apple's, still bad though.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah

                >These things come in waves and on the whim of an executive who has a bone to pick simple as.
                What exactly do you mean by that? I'm sorry, I just don't understand the sentence, or what relevance it has. I think I'm missing something, so could I beg of you to rewrite it to help me out?
                >Ok list them.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2020)
                Here you go, that's just the ones they thought they could fight in court, and not the other ones that are obviously wrong but might have wiggle room.

                forgot to answer your other question.
                >What exactly do you mean by that? I'm sorry, I just don't understand the sentence, or what relevance it has. I think I'm missing something, so could I beg of you to rewrite it to help me out?
                What I meant is, regulation is just as much about politics as it is consumer protection. Companies are allowed to get away with things that are by the letter of the law illegal until it becomes a big enough problem it can't be ignored. This happens for many reasons but its an imperfect world. Usually they get too greedy and eventually land themselves in deep shit because they were able to get buy with a little frickery for so long they don't hesitate to be blatant and then they get slapped because there is massive public demand for it. A topical example is right to repair. Apple has been anti-consumer in regards to repair for decades. It finally got bad enough and visible enough that normal people began to care and now multiple states are passing laws about it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Eh I considered it a weak case when they started it. Who cares
                Considering it's a blatant use of their power and money to muscle out competitors through no virtue of its own product, everyone should. Apple being no less the homosexuals isn't a defence for Alphabet inc.
                As for the explanation: thanks, that makes sense now. I hope you're right, but I fear things like right-to-repair actually being enforced and codified specifically against Apple are only a thing because of the EU doing so first. I can easily see a world where any liberty the EU doesn't safeguard is tossed aside by the USA without comment.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >These things come in waves and on the whim of an executive who has a bone to pick simple as.
                What exactly do you mean by that? I'm sorry, I just don't understand the sentence, or what relevance it has. I think I'm missing something, so could I beg of you to rewrite it to help me out?
                >Ok list them.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2020)
                Here you go, that's just the ones they thought they could fight in court, and not the other ones that are obviously wrong but might have wiggle room.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Having a successful product is not "holding it ransom" moron
                Anon, Google and all the other big email providers literally block self-hosted and smaller email providers. Most of it's due to spam, sure, that's a legitimate concern, but it's also to prevent people from making or flocking to alternative providers. If you want an example of how much Google HATES self hosted or alternative email, try signing up to literally any service from Tor. You will be asked for an ID (can't do, anonymity), a phone number (similar and having an unregistered/falsely registered phone number is a crime in a lot of countries), or an email address (GUESS WHO CONTROLS THE EMAIL ADDRESSES, ANON?). ALL Tor email address providers are blocked, with the exception of like Protonmail, and I'm 90% sure they require you to jump through hoops like donating (guess what that risks?) before they'll let you create an account via Tor.

                If more people understood this they would fricking hate Alphabet.

                >Tuta
                This is what’s wrong with you wagies. You consume and fall for the glowie honeypots because your favorite breadtuber told you so. Real men build their own e-mail servers.

                Alright bro, have fun communicating with the 9 other autists on PrepHole who also run their own email servers and, idk, Stallman I guess? There's probably a lot of imminent domestic terrorists out there for you to talk to I presume. good luck emailing anyone with a gmail address.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Knowing how to program doesn’t make you a domestic terrorist numnuts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, but being the sort of person who has such a grand hatred of everything normal-ish that they basically segment themselves completely is generally a trait of people who are. The electronic unabombers of the world if you will. If you have a self hosted email provider I'm sure you can find as many as you like and have long fruitful discussions with them. Not so much for, I don't know, literally any normal people.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >noooo don’t protect your personal information
                Kek get a real job

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean I already have one, they sent me the offer at my outlook address.

                Have you considered not being an autist and reading my post again?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a shizo post. Most people aren't using Tor or anonymous email services. That's a completely separate topic from normal people using email for normal things.
                >but muh privacy
                Anon, if you want to do normal things you have to act like a normal person. You also probably get offended when you connect to your VPN service of choice and find half the services you want to use block the exit node. Trying to be anonymous is hard because sketchy people try to cover their tracks and use those same tools. If its that important to you then suck it up and learn to live with the inconvenience. If you cant stand it then maybe its just not for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you're fricking stupid. Setting up a self hosted email server, Tor or not, should be as simple as getting a SSL certificate for HTTPS. Stop being a moron and going on about "the criminals!!"

                The point, and this is very clear, is that Google has a habit of blocking any email provider that doesn't go through a billion steps and even then still blacklists them when spam comes from their service, which being email is impossible to fully prevent. This is anticompetitive behavior. I should have a choice of like 30 different Tor/VPN friendly email services that Google should be almost completely chill with, as long as they have reasonable report procedures (for Tor probably completely filtering images and links in and out and permabanning/reporting to authorities any accounts involved in illegal shit). Hell, I'd be willing to pay for it, use it, and convince everyone I meet IRL that yes, [email protected] is a legitimate email address, it's my email address, and they have nothing to fear.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, you're fricking stupid. Setting up a self hosted email server, Tor or not, should be as simple as getting a SSL certificate for HTTPS. Stop being a moron and going on about "the criminals!!"
                No it is easy. Getting a domain and setting up an email server with a lets encrypt cert takes minutes. Most IT professionals who do any kind of consulting work have their own personal mail servers. Its easy. It works. And google doesn't frick with it. If you are getting fricked with it means you are probably doing something that is tanking your domain's reputation. And based on your past posts its probably going through unnecessary steps for muh privacy. If you are getting a sketchy overseas host, or trying to route your traffic in some convoluted way yes you will get blacklisted. If you are just getting a domain with a US based registrar and US based hosting you will have 0 problems. People do it every day.

                >I should have a choice of like 30 different Tor/VPN friendly email services that Google should be almost completely chill with,
                Let me spell it out for you Anon. Tor and overseas VPNs are overwhelmingly used by bad actors. Nobody can tell legitimate obfuscated traffic from malicious obfuscated traffic. If you behave in a sketchy manner you will be treated as sketchy. Networking is based on trust. Servers want to see certs from trusted CAs. They want to see domains from countries with a rule of law and they want to see IPs from places that aren't bumfrick. Nobody cares what porn you are looking at. If you really feel the need to be that secretive over the mundane shit you are doing then suck it up. If you can't handle that then privacy isn't for you. The server I admin blocks entire nation TLDs because it just isn't worth it to sort out the legit traffic from the sus traffic. My users don't need to talk to anyone from Kazakhstan anyways.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, you're one of the morons who hasn't had their shit pushed in by the government yet and thinks they're immune from any government intervention. Got it. See you in a few years when Alphabet gets hit with the mother of all legal cases, anon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever just as long as you stop shitting up this thread.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go frick yourself, moron.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I love guys like you. Email is already being held ransom moron. You can't send email unless you use the big two. They frequently blacklist any one not hosting in them. In fact they will do so silently causing massive issues. And how do you send email? By agreeing to their TOS. Google is one of the major monopolies and is going to be in the future

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Google/Alphabet bought out an awful lot of their competition. Facebook did the same thing. Both deserve to be broken up for that alone, before you even get into their criminal acquisition and use of private personal data.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The OS division of MSFT brings in 16 billion in revenue every year. They also have and continue to cheat on their taxes while hiring pro PRC people like crazy. You should be very worried about MSFT. They are not good developers in general and depend on contracts and stealing your tax money. They have also been caught multiple times employing actual foreign agents.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > The feds wont let Boeing go bust
      Nah, there’s enough competitors in the market and a heathy enough economy that the gooberment wouldn’t get involved past the point of making sure whoever buys Boeing’s assets aren’t going to establish a monopoly (e.g. airbus will not be allowed to buy Boeing’s commercial sector). This ain’t 2008 and the there’s not a major global financial crisis so letting a bad company go under is the sound choice.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Over my dead senators!

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boeing is a textbook definition of “too big to fail.” America will collapse and cease to exist as a nation before the .gov lets them go bankrupt. Whether that’s a good or a bad thing is for you to decide.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, Boeing can and will be thrown into the dumpster on 0 notice. The things it does, particularly the military and civilian aircraft it makes, will not be allowed to stop for any reason. I think a lot of the shit Boeing has gotten into has been a result of the former (Boeing) thinking it's the latter (the things it makes).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your choices are:
        1. Nationalize them (lol)
        2. Tell them to get their shit together and bail them out when it gets tough
        Boeing is the only domestic airline manufacturer, as well as all the shit they do for DoD. They’re not just some israelite bank, they’re a genuine national asset.
        And the problem with Boeing isn’t Boeing, it’s McDonnell Douglas. IYKYK.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't YKYK
          Whats to know?
          T. Unknower

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Boeing/McD-D merger was structured and played out in such a way the the same gaggle of MBA morons that had literally driven McD-D into the ground ended up in charge of Boeing after the fact even though Boeing was buying McD-D. They then turned it from a company that designs and sells airplanes into a finance company that gambles airplane-backed securities and gargles congressional nutsacks for handouts.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The longer I live, the more I am convinced that midwit middle management types will be the cause of the fall of Civilization.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              this anon knows.
              ran data science for BCA quality.
              worked to automate production lines in BDS.
              Left.
              McDD rot spread through the whole company like a cancer, there's no getting it out now. The company will end up getting M&Ad the same way mcdonnel did, and the cycle will continue.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Boeing was disregarding and downsizing QC guys in the '80s.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >And the problem with Boeing isn’t Boeing, it’s McDonnell Douglas. IYKYK.
          the management that fricked it all up came in during the 2000s and was lead by guys from 3m.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >guys from 3m
            The adhesive company?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    American tech in general is mired in a competency crisis. Not just Boeing. I don’t claim to know the causes and much less the solution, but there’s a general slow-motion downfall in effect. It’s not like there’s a hungry competent firm ready to swoop in a snap up Boeing’s share.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Military Industrial Complex will ensure WWIII happens and Boeing earns historic profits fulfilling the most expensive government contracts in history.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sister that’s Lockheed and Grumman. Boeing is going under. They’re not worth the protection that should be awarded to other corporations performances.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They’re not worth the protection that should be awarded to other corporations performances.
        But they'll get it, because of muh jobs and lobbying, which Boeing has plenty of cash for since they made so much cutting corners elsewhere. Boeing should fail, those at the top should be paraded in the streets and locked up, but that's not going to happen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No they won’t. You want to know why? Because they’re outsourcing to India. They’re not going to have funding if it’s not an American company hiring Americans. They can lobby all they want but the government has lost interest.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I say split Boeing into 2 groups. Then have each sell projects to the Government and private sector. Have each have their own stock.

    Boeing Macho: They hire based on merit, all projects are designed, built and sold by those in the company hired on merit.
    Boeing DEI: They hire based on DEI initiatives, all projects are designed, built and sold by those in the company hired on DEI initiatives.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Boeing ditches McDonnell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kind hard to unstir that pot 30 years later. They do need a culture rework but its not as simple as removing McD.

        >Eh I considered it a weak case when they started it. Who cares
        Considering it's a blatant use of their power and money to muscle out competitors through no virtue of its own product, everyone should. Apple being no less the homosexuals isn't a defence for Alphabet inc.
        As for the explanation: thanks, that makes sense now. I hope you're right, but I fear things like right-to-repair actually being enforced and codified specifically against Apple are only a thing because of the EU doing so first. I can easily see a world where any liberty the EU doesn't safeguard is tossed aside by the USA without comment.

        >Considering it's a blatant use of their power and money to muscle out competitors through no virtue of its own product, everyone should.
        That's fair Anon, I just think there's bigger fish to fry and you have to prioritize these things. FTC and DOJ aren't capable of fighting every fight.
        >Apple being no less the homosexuals isn't a defence for Alphabet inc.
        True. I'm no fan of Alphabet or any of the FAANG corps. I don't want it to sound like I'm simping for them.
        > I hope you're right, but I fear
        Its a never ending battle. People fricking suck and try to take advantage of everyone. Best thing tech minded Anons can do is just let the normies know how it effects them. Get enough Karens pissed off and eventually you can make a change.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Focus on Diversity
    >Higher Jeets for everything from construction to software
    >All boeing products start to perfrom like shit and are poorly made

    Maybe stop hiring jeets for everything and your company won't go to shit.

    But no the government will keep shoveling money into boeing to keep it alive.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Google is the Boeing of tech, they've bled their entire AI team over the past 5 years, they have no remaining capacity for innovation, and they will only continue to exist as long as market inertia can carry them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Google actually does moon shots all the time with projects s bunch have worked

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of them have worked in ages, and Google has shut down all of their projects encouraging employees to develop new tech. No more 20% Project, no more Labs, no more X. They also have no way to quantify their employees' usefulness, so when they had several rounds of layoffs like everyone else, they had to fire people completely at random instead of just the Instagram prostitutes. It's over, Google is finished.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Boeing's home state controlling party is Democrat you moron, as are the two senators from that state, as well as most of the house reps.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This fricking glows

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's very organic and weapons related.
      I don't see anything unusual or unnatural about any posters anon.
      just a normal boring thread
      feeling kinda sleepy tbh

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    too big to fail worst case they will get swallowed up by another major player when their stock value keeps crashing

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They could fix all their problems in a few years by simply firing their diversity hires and hiring white people to replace them.

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