Russia proofed in ukraine that they can keep using artilery with barely any downtime.
While westerners are used to the comfort of only having to face tribesmen which gave them massive downtime for repairs and replacements.
Russia proofed in ukraine that they can keep using artilery with barely any downtime.
While westerners are used to the comfort of only having to face tribesmen which gave them massive downtime for repairs and replacements.
tourist go home
Countries like France, Germany, Greece and Sweden certainly aren't.
come find out, third worlder
Post actual links, please.
Do it man
Do it
Invade Poland please please please
Something something article 5 ?
maybe you should go back to spamming recruitment goals again, or take the classic "no drone footage or footage of javelins, they've all been sold on black market!" spam for another trip
But Russian artillery is only good a hitting large targets like schools, hospitals and shopping centres.
In a mobile war you need precision.
Prepared positions with ATGMs and SAMs can crush any mobile assault unless you use massed artilery like the russians.
and yet, all the Russian assaults have been crushed. it seems spamming shells like you're at the fricking Somme is not an effective tactic in the 21st century.
It actually is, the ukrainians are losing insane amounts of manpower, to the point that you can't see any regular troops anymore on frontlne footage, all just conscripts.
this. ukraine had originally promised a major offensive in late may/early june, the reason they haven't done shit is because they can't train their new conscripts fast enough to keep up with their losses so they've never been able to build up a reserve force for any kind of offensive.
I find it amazing that Russia took so few losses, killed every single professional soldier in Ukraine, and as a result the Russian advance is now even slower. Starting to wonder if those telegram channels might actually be lying about Russian and Ukrainian losses
of course they are, Baня.
just two more weeks and you'll be sitting in Kiev with Zelenski's head on a platter, right? Just like in July, and in June, and in May, and in April, and in March.
The moment you would show us some sauce on your claims we would actually believe you
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
So you have nothing to back your fantasies.
simmering
Frickable mouthpussy.
Do you have some reliable source that hohols aren't getting their shit pushed in daily?
The fact that the frontlines in the east haven't moved an inch in weeks, and that Russia lost settlements in Izium and Kherson?
So the answer is no then.
That's all per RU sources m8, as well as ISW and western intelligence. Everything I've stated is not contested at the moment by anyone 🙂
None of which has to do with hohol casualties. They just keep throwing nato money and ukrop bodies at it while making no progress.
They kill orc subhumans like you. That is the best kind of progress humanity can achieve.
> Literally rooting for zog to kill more goyim.
>russia
>not zog
They're both zog, anon, and they're all Russians. All Zelensky has to do is surrender.
i'd rather have ukraine as a buffer, shielding me from russBlack person hordes
You say that as if the biggest threat to your own people isn't your own governments and the EU.
my glorious leader mocked troons on public brodcast, and EU can antagonise us only for so long. cope vatBlack person.
yes. russian rapeapes are definetely the worse option. by far.
The rape apes in Russia are worse than the Black person hordes you are forced to allow in your own country? You are a conquered people already.
you mean rape hordes that you were trying push through belarus and hordes that WE stopped? eat shit russBlack person, who knows maybe 1610 will comece again
Who is this "you" and why do you think I'm Russian?
Your countries are forced to accept muslims and Black folk. They rape your women and kill your children. You are thrown in jail for defending yourself against them, and fired from your jobs for speaking out against them.
You are a prisoner in your own country, just as I am.
>Your countries are forced to accept muslims and Black folk.
somehow Poland was able to tell sandBlack folk to frick off, spray them with water cannons and build a big wall to keep them out.i can call them sandBlack folk and goatfrickers in my job, i can shittalk homosexuals, and no one has ever told me that i did something wrong. not every country is a represive shithole like your country
Not him but you could tone down the racist rhetoric a little maybe ? Also, kys.
jeez, life in Europe really sucks doesn't it?
Both west and russia tried to force them on us in various period for 7 years now. And we told them to frick off.
That would mean Russian are only being killed by AIDS, alcohol, hunger, abuse, suicide, and regular homicide. Even Russia would agree it's better the war continue so their people can at least pretend they're doing something cool when they get killed.
Problem you have is that after four months of claiming every day the Ukrainian front line is taking horrific losses and is about to collapse, people start to question why the collapse never actually happened. Especially now the advance has almost completely stalled.
Iraq did have antitank weapons and SAMs, pretending they were unarmed tribesmen is thirdie cope
They clearly didn't because the US didn't lose choppers or vehicles to them
Not in 2003 anyways
Maybe because the US knows the ins and outs of Soviet AA and AT equipment, almost like a post Cold War military should. It was merely ineffective and outdated.
Just because you know the ins and outs doesn't mean IFVs wouldn't take heavy losses if Iraqi ATGMs had existed
Like that oft cited example where an Apache group flew into an "ambush" and took no losses
Give the ukrainians a dozen f-35s and you'll see how long your memewaffen SAMs last.
Iraq had all of those and they did dick in the end. It's almost like competent armies with functioning weapons can neutralize defenses. Iraq also had a more formidable military than Ukraine and didn't share a border with the U.S.
>Iraq also had a more formidable military than Ukraine
Iraq had a more formidable military than Russia.
Or you have airpower and precision weapons to break it up
Is Russian artillery that bad? They have some modern platforms, is the accuracy still an issue for them?
their only guided munitions are big bombs and theyve wasted a lot. The rest are mortars, howitzers and rockets. All they ever do is saturate.
You have to understand their tactical doctrine. For western armies, the point of artillery is keeping heads down or performing decapitating strikes in advance of troop insertion.
For the Russians, artillery, due to never being as accurate, is used to flatten elevated ambush points as much as possible before committing to the charge for mopup operations. That's why GRAD's are still in such common operation vice howitzer-style artillery.
consider an analogy to kids throwing rocks at each other
America finds the best rock-thrower and the best rocks and says "hit that kid in the face"
Russia finds the 10 strongest kids and gives them a mountain of shitty rocks and says "hit something"
they're both valid tactics, but obviously against each other one will always win
So here's how Americans work. The United States sees that the Russians say they have a dragon. It's a great fire breathing beast that can lay ruin to the vast Great Plains and countryside. So the Americans put a few or 10 billion dollars to research a dragon-killing sword. The sharpest sword they can possibly make, with the purest metals. Even rare metals imported from afar. They'll even invent entirely new methods of production or refinement to get those metals. In the end, after about a decade and billions, the Americans wind up with a few swords that they are quite confident can kill a dragon.
Then they see that the dragon was a crocodile that the Russians tossed out of a IL-76 and rigged to a parachute. Yet the Americans still possess a dragon killing sword.
the west is divided into two camps, those - like germany and belgium - who are unprepared for warfare in any form, and those - like the US and France - who are superlatively prepared to get utterly recked against ragheaded sand monkeys.
>France - who are superlatively prepared
France's military is a complete shitshow besides the foreign legion. Main reason is the constant purges of racists (aka patriots).
like the germans did.
Great work, you fricking morons..purging the only soldiers who are willing to die for their country, leaving the spineless res
t.
>if you aren't a goose-stepping moron willing to suck the dick of whoever has the loudest voice in the room (and let your CO frick you in the butthole) then you can't possibly be a good, courageous soldier
it's more courageous to tell strongmen to get fricked than it is to go along with them, moron.
autocrats always confuse "i follow a strong man" with "i am strong". they're not the same thing.
>let's discuss where we should take cover from this incoming fire
>the CO told us to protect the flank, but we courageously did not obey
>unified command structure? lol no, get fricked
>why are we being encircled
when its a team game, collectivists beat individualists
democratic societies still have hierarchical militaries moron. that's why when there's a coup the military always betrays the republic - because people who like and thrive in hierarchies always default to obeying whoever shouts at them the loudest.
but you can't run everything like an army because not everything is a firefight.
Go ahead and look up the fate of those regiments that rebelled against their leadership in WWII and especially WWI. Neither they nor their nation benefitted at all from their indiscretion. The fact of the matter is war is a dirty business, and the worst thing that can happen when facing a prepared foe with cohesion is being unprepared and lacking cohesion.
see
>>>if you aren't a goose-stepping moron willing to suck the dick of whoever has the loudest voice in the room (and let your CO frick you in the butthole) then you can't possibly be a good, courageous soldier
I'll take Hitler any day over your multicultural hodgepodge of israelitery
Real red pill is realizing that there is no multiculturalism in the west. You've just bought the brand. Everyone is locked into the march toward sodomy, debt, and feminism. That OUR culture and we aren't about to let some religious nutjob islamists, an autocrat, or anyone else coexist with it as you'd see in an actual multicultural society.
I personally benefit from the current system and live a better life than I could on any other so it makes sense for myself and most others to support it. Only failures on the internet cry about it.
>we wont let people who try to violently dismantle multiculturalism into our multicultural society
well.. yeah
I see you come with a very generalised message designed to resonate with people of limited age intelligence or education. That's nice. Take America for example, a place that has only existed for 200 years which has a population consisting of British, Mexicans, American Natives, Black Slaves, Protestant Freemasons, Italian Irish and Polish Catholics, israelites, Chinese railroad workers, eskimos and frick knows what else, fragmented into 50 states with different laws and you want to talk about MULTICULTURALISM? REALLY? LIKE THERE WAS ONE CULTURE TO BEGIN WITH? WHEN? THE ANSWER IS FRICKING NEVER. Now I don't like the modern left at all, did not like the old ideological marxist left at all either but if there is one thing I would throw in the bucket with them as laughably moronic it is the vatnik seeded fricking bucket of piss you idiots echo. I don't know at what point Americans started referring to socialists as liberals ( that one is a fricking triumph of Russian and left wing propagandists as is the phase neo liberal ) , I don't know exactly when /misc/ turned into a poll of russian puke (it was always pretty shit) but I know it has. The consequence has been tens of millions of anons now want to see Russian hit with a total nuclear first strike.
>The consequence has been tens of millions of anons now want to see Russian hit with a total nuclear first strike.
Aka the moderates.
Ruthenia delenda est.
>Real red pill is realizing that there is no multiculturalism in the west
based knower.
>"multiculturalism"
>there's only one legal system based on only one culture and all must obey the same laws
>but at least we have curry 🙂
"multiculturalism" is the greatest lie ever told. everything is capitalism, everything is property rights, everything is still run like an 1830s sweatshop factory except the sawblade has a safety guard now because it's cheaper to pay for safety guards than to put down rioting workers and unions.
there is no multiculturalism, just the endless sound of cash registers.
>I'll take Hitler any day over your multicultural hodgepodge of israelitery
take a bullet instead
>besides the foreign legion
I've heard horror stories about the FFL.
insane as usual vattiemagne
>the fearsome iron bear is getting its booty clapped by a comedian
Really? Because it seems to me like the Russian artillery is experiencing some serious downtime right now. They can't even keep their tubes firing if they stick to the usual Russian precision of "somewhere in that direction" rather than western pinpoint accuracy. Their barrels are worn to the point that firing them is just a waste of ammunition, ammunition that they can't bring to the front in meaningful quantities.
>Really? Because it seems to me like the Russian artillery is experiencing some serious downtime right now
Nope, the ukrainian MoD keeps reporting new shellings every day multiple times in their regular reports.
But is it the same level of 600,000 shells a day as they previously boasted.
MoD reports where Russians shelled but not quantity
Wow, the Russians are putting 20 shells a day downrange!? How could the Ukrainians possibly deal with this?
So far, they've dealt with it by giving up the most valuable half of their country, and all the population it contained
Russia managed to take two whole oblasts (including Crimea) and is now reduced to 50% of their initial push.
>half
you might want to double check those maps Ivan I think they are a little outdated
>IQ inversely correlated with Russian (aka nonwhite) population
I guess there was a reason why all the great soviet engineers were Ukrainians
The east was valuable before a bunch of unwashed terrorists and FSB boomers looted everything of value from it, including industrial machinery and every woman over 7/10.
The only Russian boots that have even touched the Dnieper were VDV, and look how that went for them.
killed probably 3 times the wounded
>1000 vehicles including most of your modern tanks
>Expend all of your precision weapons
>Every offensive stymied to the point you resort to WW1 meat grinder tactics to gain yards a day
>All to take 2 bombed out cratered oblasts with the economic potential of West Virginia
Wow much victory
>half
show us how big your half is
This war has really exposed which media have zero idea about weapons or fact-checking, but a burning need to publish something regardless.
Then again, MilitaryWatch is literally "some Indians spam from their basement" tier.
>just like it did Turkey.
Pure cope, Turks failed their equipment by misusing it and a case could be made that the defense sector failed the rest of the world by selling to roaches, but the equipment isn't to blame here.
>Pure cope, Turks failed their equipment by misusing it and a case could be made that the defense sector failed the rest of the world by selling to roaches, but the equipment isn't to blame here.
The only cope here is from you. Turkey was one of the biggest clients / marketers of German equipment, and it all went downhill after Germany stopped selling.
Why do you think South Korean equipment has taken off lately? Who was using South Korean weaponry the past few decades before all this?... Turkey.
Turkey's weaponry is all battle-tested, either you make the cut or you don't. German weapons nowadays are junk. They sold weapons to Russia, while actively refusing to sell to Ukraine, even blocking defensive equipment like drone-jammers.
>get BTFO'd in the other thread
>quickly make a new one to hide your shame
Lmao subhuman
Here's the link for anybody interested
You've seen how much damage a few himars have done, now imagine the same but vs more himars and a fricking airforce deleting your batteries and logistical chain all the way back to the factory. All this has proofed is how hugely reliant russian tactics are on massed artillery, which wouldn't survive vs Western Air power
Oh boy, another venting thread. What did you lose this time?
The usual
>ammo depots
>tanks
>lots of dead vatniks
our serbposter made another ^destroyed himars^ thread and it turned out to be normal a truck. Idk if that thread is still up
The US has highly accurate long range missile artillery and a powerful satelite system, you need vast stockpiles for attritional warfare, which is easy pickings for surgical strikes. Only reason why why dont give Ukraine the equipment to bomb Moscow is to slowly boil Russia so they don't realize whats going on.
remember when the FOURTY MILE CONVOY WAS GONNA TAKE THE HOHOL CAPITOL ANY DAY NOW? lol, vatniks remember, but they pretend not to
yes, i remember when a convoy forty miles away from kiev was reported as a "forty mile convoy" and redditors ate it up
I remember when redditards made up a marvel movie tier meme about a fighter pilot and the Zhomosexuals from /chug/ wouldn't shut up about it for months
Ukrainians reduced the fricking Russian army to a state where they can't mount armored offensives and instead trade artillery along with very slow frontlines, and they did this with western supplied AT weapons, followed by just a handful of western supplied short ranged guided rockets.
Imagine what would happen if Ukies actually had numbers of western tanks, aircraft or missile systems. The question you should be asking is why does Russian equipment suck so much? Why are Russians or Ukies both seemingly unable to mount an offensive? The answer lies in the soviet shit that they have.
You forgot to mention Ukraine is using decades-old Western weapons and Russia has been using its latest, most modern armaments. Russia is still being annihilated.
The fact that Russia has anything left to use at all is because of soviet shit stockpiled from the Cold War. They don't have much else left because they can't make replacements fast enough.
So, I wonder what happens next, more static warfare like in Donbas but on a long frontline? That sounds costly.
My guesses are one of the following
>Slow advance by Ukies over a few months, or a hard attack once enough material has been brought + men trained
>Violent maneuver warfare attack by Russkies with troops brought from far east etc, massive missile and air strikes to collapse ukie lines at all cost
>Shitty stalemate that lasts for who knows how long
War exhaustion will eventually hit all parties, so far there is no real diplomatic way out. Russians might try something cheeky like an assault through Belarus with Belarusian troops or a nuclear strike, but I don't see it particularly likely.
Vatnik, we legit fought a war in a landlocked country for 20 years. All the while fighting another war in Iraq, and having several other small scale conflicts/occupations too boot.
Can Russia do the same?
Police actions where the bulk of forces were locals*
You know the Taliban rule Afghanistan now right ?
Russia did entere into one of this conflicts and flip it over. Long live assad lol
While you fleed form this landlocked country in such rush that abandoned your allies their. They didn't get a seat in a plane.
raqqa
Shoot down the plane
"Russia proofed in ukraine that they can keep using artilery with barely any downtime. "
Objectively not true, with the arival of HIMARS and there ability to counter battery really well and the destruction of artillary ammunition depots, they are slows down and soon will be unable to unitilise there main asset
Keep coping cuck.
must be a terrible system to since they are buying 100 more.
not free gibs but actually buying them
germany also opening a repair facility in poland to help repair these as they are used
they are great artillery but do have some problems
>they are great artillery but do have some problems
Like needing regular maintenance?
Lmao
>Like needing regular maintenance?
Yes.
This would never have happend with rugged and war-proven russian gear
Lol
Smerch > HIMARS
Suck it HATOcuck
Why do some people have this hateboner for krauts?
Anglos hate that Germans are their #1 enemy but Germans don't care about them, their media has been egging this on for over 100 years.
Poles have been told by their media and politicians for 20 years that everything wrong with their country is the fault of Germany which fueled both an eternal victim mentality and an inferiority complex that would be tough to escape for any country.
Russians are Russians.
The commonality between all of them are extremely low gun ownership rates. Draw your own conclusions.
i like germans
t. bong
I like Britbongs too tbh
t. Kraut
based. my great grandfather's time posted in germany (ww2 and after) gave him a poor opinion of americans and italians, but a very good opinion of germans.
Bongs hate Germans?
t. Bong
I sure hate England. And I mean England, not the UK.
t. kraut
On /k/ they do, but that's history newfriends wouldn't know about.
Armatard made threads about the Ajax for a long timr whenever he got humiliated by brits in navy threads, eventually a lot of bongs got extremely butthurt at Germans instead of armatard because
>should've bought German
Was the common theme in the thread.
That's why half the attempted /brit/ threads were filled with whining about Germany, the other half was just general shitposting. Hence why they got deleted and the OPs were banned.
Good times.
it's not just a /k/ thing, PrepHole *ABSOLUTELY HATES* Germany and Germans and I think that's starting to rub off on other boards that undergo regular /misc/ incursions
PrepHole has been a leftypol colony for a long time since it soaks up the most reddit refugees per capita by far.
I hate krauts
t. burger
>The commonality between all of them are extremely low gun ownership rates. Draw your own conclusions.
What's the rate of Firearm ownership WITHIN the Reich though? Maybe that's why we hate them.
actually pretty high by euro standards
Strong hunting + gun culture for Euro standards which might supplement the british animosity.
>The commonality between all of them are extremely low gun ownership rates. Draw your own conclusions.
I only see one outlier...
Like this. It's probably poles who have never been on /k/ before and being angry that Ukraine didn't buy more KRABs but Pzh2000 instead. Germans are used to ignore the Polish butthurt cause it's a permanent condition. And Russians think they are clever with their divide and conquer trolling.
you also forgot to add how hitler dindu nuffin and how it was poles that massacred innocent germans
>Anglos hate that Germans are their #1 enemy but Germans don't care about them, their media has been egging this on for over 100 years.
Don't worry, there's also the French. It's just that we haven't been at war with the frogs for longer.
It's vatniks false falgs.
If it's not screaming about Germany, it's about Poland or perfidious Albion.
Sometimes they even reply to themselves to make it seem like there's some big, long-standing animosity.
See for example
surkov style divide and conquer tactics
unironically some attempt at divide and conquer, Germany may not be up to snuff in the military area right now because they've gimped their military for 20+ years
Ultimately they just need enough purpose to get that industry and beaurocracy shifted so it stops fricking things up for Germany.
There is a clear distinction between the failed BW and the German arms industry. They're still producing modern, top quality and well used weapon systems - many that never see adoption by the BW.
The thing is that the German industry is homegrown, just like Sweden's is. They can get their orders and sell stuff, but the only way you're getting a ton of vehicles, parts and things out in a timely manner is PURPOSE. Arming the BW can easily have the side-effect of making German MIC work faster and more efficiently by supercharging it with funds, and promoting changes in laws to facilitate less trouble in getting shit done.
>Russian war propagandist Yury Kotenok laments an acute deficit of fighting force on the Donbas front. He says Russia has enough fire power, but not enough foot soldiers to mop up enemy positions. Battalions are half their normal size, he says.
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1554386230032441344
Ukraine has been forced back in Donbas, but slowly, and has been inflicting consistent casualties on the Russians.
t. russia has been forcing back ukraine in donbas while inflicting unsustainable casualties on the ukrainians and taking minor casualties themselves
why do you cheer being a piece of shit?
>only having to face tribesmen which gave them massive downtime for repairs and replacements.
>the Iraqi army was tribesmen and totally didn't have large amount of Soviet equipment
>tribesmen never randomly attack at anytime
>U.S. didn't spend the last 20 years in wars
>Germany's moronation is applicable to the entirety of the west
I have heard that much of this may be due to Ukrainians have no idea how to properly maintain the systems given to them. M777 howitzers for example are regularly shipped leaveand for repair because there was not enough time to properly teach Ukrainians how to service them, just how to shoot them. My bet is, the German artillery is working as intended, and in the rush of getting the Ukrainians acquainted, maintenance was give short shrift.
An spg asking for maintenance after a month of overuse is perfectly normal. I'm assuming the ukranians knew they were pushing the machines beyind their limits but did it anyway for one reason or another.
it's due to the very high rates of fire they're experiencing- most guns have hourly and daily shell limits and ukies are blowing right past them (for good reason) causing extreme wear that requires depot-level service
I have to wonder about the kind of person shilling for vatniks on /k/
They don't seem to know much about weapons. They also don't seem to know much about European politics or economy.
So far so good. But this is where the really bizarre part starts - they also don't seem to have any familiarity with cars, tractors or any sort of automotive or heavy machinery.
They are unfamiliar with European cultures or countries outside of /misc/ stereotypes.
They seem unfamiliar with European, Russia or American climate and weather.
What the hell are they - Central Africans? Indian basement dwellers?
You answered your own question. Leading up to and after the 2016 election, /misc/ became inundated with posts revolving around conservatism and a return to traditionalism, in response to liberal economic and social policy creating social disorder. PrepHole has always been somewhat rebellious in its structure, posters' anonymity along with site culture ensures that viewpoints contrary to accepted dogma will be more popular. Trump's meteoric and surprising victory only incensed most posters, causing /misc/'s conservative audience to become even further entrenched in their ideologies. In only a few years most posters who had been quite simple centrists or conservatives (and even some previous liberal posters such as myself) found themselves allying with any political ideology that favored a return to some form of traditionalism, even totalitarian dictatorships or theocracies of a radically opposing culture.
Posters latched onto the idea of a possible rise of Russian hegemony as a return to traditionalism of yesteryear, in which men were men, women were women, and the threat of rising liberalism and destruction of the family unit were stamped out. It is really no surprise why /misc/ runs cover for Russia, you would just need to spend an inordinate amount of time lurking on the board to see the basic steps it took to get there. It is slowly changing, as no one likes to support a loser, but it will be some time before the board culture turns away.
Imagine getting taken in by Russian propaganda and becoming a traitorous fifth columnist while proclaiming a belief in Western supremacy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>What the hell are they - Central Africans? Indian basement dwellers?
Unironically yes. Africans are cheaper than even Russians, so Russia outsources a good deal of its shitposting.
Nigerians. They've got /k/ open on one monitor and 419 scam shit on their second monitor.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2020/03/13/russian-trolls-outsource-disinformation-campaigns-to-to-africa/
heh
Better than all the israelite ngo nogunz shills
>before and after meeting with the HIMAR-MAN
brutal
moron, we designed our militaries so that wars of attrition don't happen to us. Get your ass into the 21st century.
War of attrition? Russia is to cowardly to attack NATO, and the CCP is too cowardly to attack Taiwan. Pelosi just walked right over communist china and they took it like buck-broken b***hes.
>abuse equipment
>the equipment breaks
this confuses and angers the slavic "brain"
>Russia proofed in ukraine that they can keep using artilery with barely any downtime.
Until HIMARS started blowing all their ammo depots and crippled their logistics. Then it collapsed. Which is a problem for them, becuase with how shit their stuff is, they need to fire a hundred+ times as many shells as western artillery to achieve the same results.
People here just want to circle jerk.
cringe
to vatniks a mass produced, armored LMTV is a wunderwaffe
Himars doors open back to front u fricking nothing.
I won't call u names. You're just nothing.
You Polacks are going all out with your seething.
oh no burgerbros where are we going to find replacements for all the destroyed super weapons
>Russian air defenses smoked after cruise missile and SEAD
>NATO and west achieve total air superiority in a week
>Russian command posts, supply depots, MSRs and staging areas get bombed for weeks on end
>large armored well supplied NATO columns rapidly encircle and penetrate deep behind weakened lines
>Russian communications and supply lines completely fricked
>CAS and NATO artillery slaughter confused and disorganized BTGs
>West uses dominance in night optics, intel and logistics to cut off, encircle or outright bypass fortified positions
Iraq 3.0
*Days
Russian runways and la ded planes will be destroyed by the first missile wave
im diamonds now
How good is HIV testing these days, would it be possible to filter out the pozzed Russian women and auction off the unpozzed ones in the West after Russia is crushed? I'd buy a cute Russian girl.
No, because attrition warfare isn't what modern militaries do. You launch nukes to wipe out all manufacturing capability and fight with what's leftover.
No, because we don't let ourselves be tied to attrition warfare, that's a costly lesson the west already learned.
It's genuinely shocking to see the Russian army, the military that was the first fully mechanized in the world, regress militarily from maneuver warfare to trench lines and artillery duels. They're now at the point where their strategy is closer to the Battle of Verdun than Desert Storm or the Battle of Kursk, and their own people cheer them for it.
>the Russian army, the military that was the first fully mechanized in the world
?
Literally that. The USSR was the first country to have a fully mechanized military (largely due to a need to employ people in factories, but the outcome is the same).
pretty sure the US was the first fully mobilized. The Red Army relied as much on horses as the Wehrmacht before it was supplied with thousands of trucks by the US.
UK was first fully motorized, USSR was first fully mechanized. The USSR was around for a long time after WWII y'know.
>The Red Army relied as much on horses as the Wehrmacht -after losing its trucks in moronic encirclements of 1941- and before it was supplied with thousands of trucks by the US.
fixed it for you
>the west
Yes, very much so
>Germany
No. You're talking about the geniuses who shut down their nuclear power plants with no timeline to replace them and instead started sucking Putin's gas teat for zero logical reason
Stockpiles are pretty worthless, attrition requires industry
Coping polaks spamming threads about PzH needing maintenance after one month of use.
>Is the west even remotely prepared for attrition warfare?
Not really.
But you don't particularly need to be prepared for attrition if you just win.
That's how you fight a war in the 21st century.
>overwhelmingly dominant blue water naval forces
>vastly superior air forces
>frick you logistics capability
>science fiction level intelligence gathering
>nearly unassailable industrial capacity outside of nuclear exchanges in North America
who will make the "the west is decedent and soft" mistake next?
This. The Us is decadent and vicious because we don't hold grudges we have demands
>s the west even remotely prepared for attrition warfare?
Half a billion armed civilians in the good old west. You tell me.
that doesnt matter only artillery
>no link.
Well look at that, OP is a giant homosexual. What a surprise.
kek imagine complaining about wear and tear as if that only effects German military equipment. each Ukraine Pzh 2000 is probably firing 120 rounds a day at full charge. that's going to take a toll on the barrel and the semi-autoloader after 30 days.
Autoloaders aren't under serious shock loads. How can we tell you're not a mechanic therefore your thoughts are worthless? (Dog and world know about barrel wear thanks to Twitter)
>Russia proofed in ukraine that they can keep using artilery with barely any downtime
They absolutely did not prove anything of the sort lmaooo you vatniks are hilarious
Specifically on the PHB 2k, I know two arty guys from the Bundeswehr who operate them and the fricking LOVE them. It’s not some “Deutschland Uber Alles” bullshit from the guys cause they said they loved American arty too, but they couldn’t say enough good things about them. What I can say is that they didn’t get to fire an absolute ton from the guns, so maybe after a month of use they really do need extensive repairs
>entire West in a war of attrition vs little Russia
Uh... I have my money on NATO and the West.
>Is the west even remotely prepared for attrition warfare?
the west doesn't have to prepare for attrition warfare
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>Is the west even remotely prepared for attrition warfare
The west has been helping ukraine wear you deluded frickers down for 5 months. Face it, Russia lost; sooner you realize this and cope properly, sooner you can start rebuilding your economy, international reputation, and millitary - good luck with that lol...