You can trim/grind the bottom of the followers and get 15 rounds in. The USP line is designed with reliability being the #1 priority. Technically you're supposed to download say a Glock mag by 1-2, professional agencies recommend this or write it into policy. The USP mags force you to download by 2 to prevent overpressure on the spring. If you trim the followers your can overcompress your spring if you want. I'd still recommend downloading by 1, a G19 sized gun is really a 14 round mag gun. Think how hard you have to shove that last round in and how barely it fits, that's what the HK mags are attempting to prevent.
HK sells new mag internals that are for the P30/VP9 mags to take the 1st gen 15rd ones up to 17rds.
If you take that kit and use the follower and spring from it, and cut off one full turn from the bottom of the spring, they will fit in a P2000 mag with the P2000 baseplate and it'll then hold 15rds.
This. Most people who spend even a little bit of time on the paddle tend to prefer it. I certainly do. As long as you're not a retard hitting it with your thumb, it's better than the buutton IMO
>As long as you're not a retard hitting it with your thumb
What kind of lemur-handed motherfucker's thumb actually reaches the paddle from a firing hand grip?
paddles are best. So much easier to just drop my trigger finger down than to reach my thumb forward. Always felt like less movement of the hand. I love my VP9.
Calling it a paddle is dumb it's tiny and more like a switch. It's nothing like what a paddle is meant to look like. It's either a dumb marketing thing or some German to English mistranslation. I refuse to play along.
Honestly for pistol round I don’t think anyone would argue otherwise, but as the game continues the backup higher armor pen of the p2k comes in handy for 2 tap heads, especially if you’re the type of person who likes the Glock over the USP on pistol round. Wish I could switch mid-game
i bought a brand new one for about 700 dollars a few years ago. It has an ambidextrous mag release so you can either use your thumb or finger on it. I only run the really dirty steel ammo through it. It actually stovepiped the first few rounds I shot it but it is cool i like it
>Is the P2000 still a good handgun?
Yeah, it's "good" depending on caliber and trigger option. I like the original LEM in .40. For whatever reason I could shoot tight groups with that one at 50 yards. I sold it and when I replaced it with a 9mm, could not shoot it as well. They also changed the trigger which may be why. The DA/SA with decocker is not what the LEM was. The LEM was constantly cocked DOA where the trigger only engaged the spring and seer at the very end of a long pull. People not familiar with it would think they had pulled it all the way and it was in error, nope just had a ridiculously heavy break at the end of a ridiculously long pull.
Today the p2000 has 2 major shortcomings.
First, the reset is very long. This makes finding a good rhythm for rapid fire much harder.
Secondly, it's huge for 12 round capacity but I think 12 is honestly plenty so whatever on that.
It's a good gun but I would not call it the current best option.
P2000 is a great handgun OP. Easy to shoot, super easy to carry with the texture on the grip, and fits the hand really nice, at least in my experience. If you like DA/SA you'll love this gun!
Great pistol, more ergonomic from the factory than a USP. The compact version and the subcompact version of this pistol is still the smallest duty guns HK makes.
Been carrying LEM version to for work for years with no issues.
It is the standard issue for the USA Border Patrol and it has no problem killing the illegals when they get a little rowdy crossing huehueheu
Unfortunately no, it's a couple decades old and once a design hits that mark it won't kill people anymore.
stupid csgo nerd,
no its fucking not
How braindead are you that your ape mind immediately goes to "uhhh video game gun >:("
Yes they are very good pistols. They are a bit outdated though. Lower capacity than other guns it’s size. Still great guns though.
you can run the 17 round vp9 mags in them but i think they need a collar to sit flush
You can trim/grind the bottom of the followers and get 15 rounds in. The USP line is designed with reliability being the #1 priority. Technically you're supposed to download say a Glock mag by 1-2, professional agencies recommend this or write it into policy. The USP mags force you to download by 2 to prevent overpressure on the spring. If you trim the followers your can overcompress your spring if you want. I'd still recommend downloading by 1, a G19 sized gun is really a 14 round mag gun. Think how hard you have to shove that last round in and how barely it fits, that's what the HK mags are attempting to prevent.
HK sells new mag internals that are for the P30/VP9 mags to take the 1st gen 15rd ones up to 17rds.
If you take that kit and use the follower and spring from it, and cut off one full turn from the bottom of the spring, they will fit in a P2000 mag with the P2000 baseplate and it'll then hold 15rds.
No, it's absolutely awful. If you have one, I'll take it off your hands immediately... as a favor
>paddle release
Unless you're a cop you're not gonna need to reload anyway. Better that the mag is secure than it being easy to drop on accident.
I prefer the paddle release on my USP over any other release. I find that it's easier to use my point finger though.
>truly ambidexterous
>more secure mag retention
>takes ~20 minutes of practice to get used to
>filter out buttontards
Yeah, I'm thinking based
This. Most people who spend even a little bit of time on the paddle tend to prefer it. I certainly do. As long as you're not a retard hitting it with your thumb, it's better than the buutton IMO
>As long as you're not a retard hitting it with your thumb
What kind of lemur-handed motherfucker's thumb actually reaches the paddle from a firing hand grip?
paddles are best. So much easier to just drop my trigger finger down than to reach my thumb forward. Always felt like less movement of the hand. I love my VP9.
Lever mag releases are only better if you have short fingers.
you dare call it a lever release in response to me, despite me clearly calling it a paddle release
Calling it a paddle is dumb it's tiny and more like a switch. It's nothing like what a paddle is meant to look like. It's either a dumb marketing thing or some German to English mistranslation. I refuse to play along.
Shut the fuck up you retarded slut
Suck my chode you stubby fingered bitch
Does slut need to be punished?
>all these Hk appologists coping with the shit Hk design practices
Lmao
>paddle release
Yes anything else is unacceptable
The USP-S is better.
I disagree. The USP has never fit my hands right.
Honestly for pistol round I don’t think anyone would argue otherwise, but as the game continues the backup higher armor pen of the p2k comes in handy for 2 tap heads, especially if you’re the type of person who likes the Glock over the USP on pistol round. Wish I could switch mid-game
Nah, not since the balance patch.
Most HK pistols are lacking in capacity, weight, etc. but not ineffective
>Is the P2000 still a good handgun?
What do you mean "still"? It was obsolete the day it came out.
Just get a P30
Are you a califag? If so then get one. (Only HK pistol on the bull shit “safe roster”)
What the fuck happened to the LEM trigger between the USP/P2000 and the p30 though. Why did the reset get so damn long?
i bought a brand new one for about 700 dollars a few years ago. It has an ambidextrous mag release so you can either use your thumb or finger on it. I only run the really dirty steel ammo through it. It actually stovepiped the first few rounds I shot it but it is cool i like it
The capacity / size ratio is disappointing
100%. It’s my HD gun and winter carry. Super comfy AIWB
One of the best, theres nothing wrong with it. I'm still holding out for a P30 compact though. I like the extended paddles.
>Is the P2000 still a good handgun?
Yeah, it's "good" depending on caliber and trigger option. I like the original LEM in .40. For whatever reason I could shoot tight groups with that one at 50 yards. I sold it and when I replaced it with a 9mm, could not shoot it as well. They also changed the trigger which may be why. The DA/SA with decocker is not what the LEM was. The LEM was constantly cocked DOA where the trigger only engaged the spring and seer at the very end of a long pull. People not familiar with it would think they had pulled it all the way and it was in error, nope just had a ridiculously heavy break at the end of a ridiculously long pull.
Today the p2000 has 2 major shortcomings.
First, the reset is very long. This makes finding a good rhythm for rapid fire much harder.
Secondly, it's huge for 12 round capacity but I think 12 is honestly plenty so whatever on that.
It's a good gun but I would not call it the current best option.
P2000 is a great handgun OP. Easy to shoot, super easy to carry with the texture on the grip, and fits the hand really nice, at least in my experience. If you like DA/SA you'll love this gun!
there's very little reason not to buy a glock. so i dont buy glocks.
To a certain point, gun is gun. A 1911, a pistol designed 113 years ago still kills. And anyway, HK designed it, it's probably pretty damn good.
I want one, purely because I liked it in csgo.
>I want one, purely because I liked it in csgo.
if you are a cs:go fan, the gun to get is still a usp
I prefer the USP-S.
Great pistol, more ergonomic from the factory than a USP. The compact version and the subcompact version of this pistol is still the smallest duty guns HK makes.
Been carrying LEM version to for work for years with no issues.
It is the standard issue for the USA Border Patrol and it has no problem killing the illegals when they get a little rowdy crossing huehueheu
Nah a Hi-Point is better