It's only a matter of time before the Army follows the Muhrain's optic choice. There just doesn't exist an optic just as versatile as this. Any cons or setbacks is due to your own lack of skills.
Is the LPVO the ultimate optic?
It's only a matter of time before the Army follows the Muhrain's optic choice. There just doesn't exist an optic just as versatile as this. Any cons or setbacks is due to your own lack of skills.
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I have one on my AUG and like it, but I'm debating going to a red dot and sticking the lpvo on my Savage 99.
Should just shove that whole 10" up your arsehole!
You know I might do just that. Thanks anon.
there are easier ways to post threads bragging that you've never shot a gun before, underaged op
No.
Peak is a holographic with a magnifier.
I'm still of the opinion ACOG+RMR is peak, if only barely so. Though that depends entirely on if you have NVG or not. Eokek is king of you have LARP tubes
Imo moving your head position to RMR from ACOG is not ideal for quick target acquisition or consistency. I’d rather just use the ACOG. Or better yet, LPVO on 1x. I’m also not a fan of the aesthetics of the ACOG, let alone with an RMR.
no, LPVO + DBAL is
Sure, if you're not white. Batteries die quick in the cold.
I guess you're not a night vision user. For us it's either Eokek or slam your NODs into the RMR because setting your TA31 any further forward makes it useless
Wrong. Iron sights.
Kys
It can be very nice, yes but it doesn't work with night vision. In a warzone where you can't get easy access to batteries in a six month period, having etched glass reticles is essential.
VCOG is peak last war optic, and the USMC is the only branch who consistently gets small arms adoptions mostly correct. the army already did follow the USMC optic choice, but they bought a shit sour 1-6 that breaks if you drop it
Armyfag here, we have had LPVOs for awhile now in most good units. 5th Group and Ranger Recon were rocking them well before the Marine Corps was.
I've never seen anyone manage to break one, and we've taken them on two deployments now + training cycles. Of course, I've managed to see someone break a fucking ACOG before, so I'm sure it'll happen eventually.
>special guys
a couple thousand units compared to tens of thousands of units. Idk why you even brought that up.
as for shits breaking I agree that they arent made of porcelain but how will they fair after being issued to 3+ joes in a row banging them against the inside of a striker a hundred times each?
> special guys
> literally regular 11 series in the 101st and 82nd
Is that a wood gasifier powered Nork mil truck?
How do you even break an Acog? I have one and I just cant fathom.
Red dots are a differrent story
not that guy but mine broke due to water ingress somehow. didnt even get a replacement until I deployed kek.
Are you Canadian?
just like this, I am diagnosable retarded though lol. still held zero and it didn't affect function at all
Cool in a way
Same way you break most optics: T U R R E T S
So is Elcan not being used now?
I haven't seen a unit use elcans since 2016. Well, I did see one Squad Leader decide he really liked the unused elcans we had sitting in the arms room, and use one for about a year.
Fell down a cliff, landed on rock, ACOG first. The Joe in question was also paralyzed from the fall and life flighted out, so for everyone's SA it was a pretty fucking good drop.
Other than SF Rangers are generally ahead of everyone else. Too bad they were the only ones to pick up the HK21E
Recon Co is JSOC funded which means they get more money for more big boy toys
Is that a RIS II rail? What's the gap like between the FSB and the rail?
Are you Canadian?
Does the 1-8 VCOG compete at all with the shitforce XxXatAKkK3arXxX
ATACR is DOD approved for contracts
VCOG has a contract
They are not the same
Where I live (western rockies) they are king because you taking a 400 yard shot is way the fuck more likely than kicking a door and speed shooting paper or real tangos. This is why the AR 10 is better here as well.
Why not a 3-15 then?
>not as good as a red dot
>not as good as a real scope
No, poorfags will seethe but a dot + scope is king
I have a delta stryker 1-6 which is ok but if I could spend that money again I would probably get an acog with an rmr
I thought the army did adopt an LPVO on the M7
also when did the marines adopt one?
Yes, the army bought the XM157 a vortex 1-8x30 LPVO with a projected LCD overlay on the first focal plane and an attached laser rangefinder and ballistics computer that will display a calculated bullet drop for the target distance you're aimed at through the LCD in the scope.
The FY23 order was for a little over 12000 of them with more orders in FY24 im sure.
>four digit prices for anything “good”
>1x is always shit if you dont buy $2000 stuff
>everyone uses a red dot with it anyways
Nah
You bought into the gucci meme like a dipshit. You can get just fine lpvos for three figure prices, many of which have been photographed being used by actual glowmorons in field operations.
Midwits cannot grasp the concepts of "good enough" and "all items have tradeoffs".
Not him but do you have any good examples?
>You can get just fine lpvos for three figure prices,
Such as?
>many of which have been photographed being used by actual glowmorons in field operations.
Oh like the Ukrainians who bought thhem with their own money?
Right company. Wrong optic. Fixes most of the LPVO problems:
>Weight
>battery
>poor 1x
If REMCOG would make a model for that POS it would be mind blowing
What is this?
Trijicon TR24G
I’m really considering one for a 11.5 but I really wish that they made one with a ACOG BDC reticle
Depends on the LPVO. The Trijicon accupoint 1-6 is a fantastic optic. No worries about your battery operated toy going bye bye with an EMP. They do add quite a bit of weight to the weapon but you just need to lift.
EMP is such a retarded meme holy shit. Do you seriously think we just have magic "turn everything off" bombs?
EMP is a meme, but LPVO having terrible battery life is not. Fiber optic illumination is the way, especially as the Acupoints allow the user to modulate brightness.
The nx8 can be left on daylight bright for like a month. Illum isn't important unless you're on 1x
Cool and fiber optic will last until the sun runs out of fusion material. I also highly doubt any claims about battery life from any LPVO manufacture.
Yes sweatie I had a TR24 at one point it was very kewl. Probably the best eyebox out there no doubt. Just wished the triangle's post wasn't so thicc.
TR26 is more thin, but with a 6x I kind of want some form of drop compensation. Wish they could use the tech from the ACOG to make reticles for Acupoints. Unironically the perfect scope.
*25
Prepare for the worst hope for the best anon. I’ll think of every possible scenario even if it doesn’t happen. Enjoy your battery dildo optic.
>Do you seriously think we just have magic "turn everything off" bombs?
Boeing had the CHAMP which is pretty cool for what has been revealed publicly, less bomb and more missile that fries electronic systems as it passes overheard with a high power microwave
Okay I stand corrected, that's pretty neat
Yes. They're called nukes, also the sun. Fuck I wish WIFI was outlawed so we go back to the time when all of you retards got filtered by CAT5
EMP from a nuclear device is smaller than the fireball, that's why they could be filmed in the 40's, if you're worried about nukes because of the EMP you are certifiably retarded
Zoomer, 40's electronics ran on vacuum tubes, and film is an analog medium. If you think modern transistor based electronics are the same thing thing, then there is no point talking to you.
What is a high altitude air burst? And no, CME's happen frequently and won't necessarily kill organic life, but can fry everything.
The nuke would kill you long before the EMP touched anything, also a massive burst of solar radiation would do the same. Worrying about an EMP in either case is like worrying about an infection when everything south of your pelvis is gone
What's your favorite reticle? love the triangle for 4x and Mil for 6x.
I have the mil dot reticle. It’s top tier. Triangle would be nice too.
Triangle make 4x more or less into a dot magnifier combo that weight less, has less moving parts and requires no batteries.
Always scared to go with the triangle on a 6x, as holdovers would be a bitch with that thick line.
Check out the 3-9 if you get a shot. 13.1 oz, great glass.
I have the 1-8 vcog and like everything about it except for the fact that its basically like putting a fucking cinderblock on top of your gun. VCOG on my fully kitted rifle makes my AR feel like a fucking SAW. If I could do it again I would have just bought an ACOG. It makes a lot of sense for the USMC as an organizational purchase especially at the time. Like 4 different rifles, using a mix of M855, SOST, 262 and M855A1. Mildot fixes literally all of these problems with one optic and its beefy enough to be reissued 10 times with no problems.
i love the photo of this tactitard you posted
>tfw you're the most L33T larperator on this planet acting like im a good shot
>apel ballistic glasses soo fogged can see or shot a fuckin thing lol
lvpo's are terrible in limited light situations where's a real scope with a light collector on front will actually work in overcast
Nah
I bet it tracks stationary targets wonderfully.
Probably fine for moving targets too, you're still removing half the equation (distance/bullet drop) yea wind is still a thing and a proper lead on a moving target is still needed, but knowing roughly how much your bullet will drop almost instantly is still a big advantage over not having that.
neat, we COD now
Was a huge lpvo guy until I got an MPVO with parallax adjustment, now I get it.. But I still love a few of them.
What scope is better is just marginal comfort and effectiveness, how come gamechanging thermals aren't standard yet? French trialed a complicated electronic system in afghanistan that included a thermal optic per squad. Is having a fancy laser rangefinder scope really better than proliferating the best observation tool out there?
French were also asigning a bolt action per squad as a DMR
>Bolt Action
>DMR
>not choosing the best sight
man those goggles are foggy
That's racist.
would you call them
foggles?
I was a big proponent of them at a time.
Then I realized people were correct and I spent 99.9% of the time either at min or max magnification and would have been better served with an ACOG + RMR.