Is the Jetboil stash worth it as a lightweight cooking system? I only really need it for boiling water for dehydrated meals.
Is the Jetboil stash worth it as a lightweight cooking system?
Is the Jetboil stash worth it as a lightweight cooking system? I only really need it for boiling water for dehydrated meals.
No. Larp. PrepHole is a MSR board. I don't have either and I don't actually go on hikes or backpacking, seems uncomfy to me, but we are a MSR board only.
Wrong. PrepHole is a LARP board, and as such it’s leans heavily toward multi fuel stoves like the Whisperlite or building a fire and tossing potatoes right into it (without foil).
Pocket rocket pilled.
The wisperlight I better in every way. The nominal weight increase is more than balanced out by recurring fuel costs and usability.
Nah.
Soto or MSR. Amicus is the best buy right now. I've been using a pocket rocket since before you were born. Anything in picrel is great.
For a cook pot toaks, lixada, tomshoo and boundless voyage on aliexpress all sell the exact same cook pots at various prices, buy the cheapest one they're the same.
For a wind screen use either: aluminum flashing (hardware store/construction site dumpster dive) tooling foil (hardware store/construction site dumpster dive) or a baking tray (grocery store, search youtube for guides to make a windscreen from it) or titanium foil (aliexpress)
Cutlery is also half price on aliexpress.
what about those super cheap chinese titanium stoves?
BRS are valid for noobs and poors.
They aren't as efficient, aren't as wind resistant, have weak pot supports, are relatively loud, and have no built in igniter. You get what you pay for. If those things aren't all that important to you they're really good value and UL too.
brs is great for short trips, its as ultralight as canister stoves get and cheap but as anon said its not reliable. i have one, i use it sometimes, i wouldn't recommend it as a main daily driver.
if you get one just know its only good for boiling water in 3 seasons. if you try to actually cook with it, melt snow, or boil in cold winter you will melt the pot supports. if you only run it 4-6 mins at a time its not a concern.
jetboil is worth it. don't listen to poorgays on this board.
nah you can't simmer with it, only good for boiling and bag meals, and its heavier than a soto + pot.
soto or msr is better.
Jetboil vs Windburner?
Soto and pocket rocket are better, but the jetboil minimo CAN simmer, though I still choose the Soto more often. Minimo is for car camping, short weekends/overnighters, +1.
The windburner is really hard to blow out in my experience while it's in use, I really like it.
agreed. MSR is good, but Jetboil is a complete package, and the pricing reflects that.
MSR gays end up spending more in the end and having a hodge podge of things that dont fit together well.
>and the pricing reflects that.
nah its like $30 for some aluminum fins under your pot and they're loud as frick so you can't stealth with them
>MSR gays end up spending more in the end and having a hodge podge of things that dont fit together well.
lol what the frick are you talking about? you're aware you can just go to your local outfitter and see how everything fits together before you buy? 15 year old zoomers pls go. if you need to ask your mom to borrow the car that's a personal problem.
its the opposite. jetboils barely can fit anything inside the pot except the jetboil itself see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQRohvmHOQ
i have my gas canister, stove (msr micro rocket,) a ground tarp, a cup, insulator for the cup, a bandana, windscreen, my smellproof bags, and my entire fire kit inside my cook pot.
picrel is my alcohol stove setup but all the same things fit when i use canisters. too lazy to re-pack it and take you a picture use your imagination.
i have a regular jetboil, whatever they call it. my buddy has a whisperlite. after a day or two he was asking to use mine. id be eating by the time he got the thing burning. i thought it was great for 100 bucks. fits in a 32oz bottle pocket too. very clever system.
i have something called jetboil zip and have been using it atleast 8 years now
always with me during shorter summer weekend trips or when i berry/mushroom picking for a day etc. bur completely useless and a waste of gas during winter months
does it just not boil?
even with winter gas it takes so long to boil that you might as well use trangia
thats disappointing to hear
Using a whisperlite outside of serious mountaineering or Midwest colder than a witches tiddy winter is like commuting to work in a legit monster truck. You’re not running over other cars or jumping big ass dirt berms, you’re just doing the speed limit and getting like 1mpg on fuel that’s probably $20/gallon.
>but I could go out in winter or climbing at 17kft or something
But you’re not, so it’s fricking gay.
yeah, i mean he inherited it so its not like he bought it purpose made. its just an old hunk of crap does a job well enough.
>lightweight
Aren’t they over 1lb/0.45kg? If you want light, go with a super cat stove.
canister CAN be lighter than alcohol when fuel's considered, depends on the length of the trip and cooking needs.
its not apples to apples comparison mostly because alcohol stoves have more trouble with legality where you can use them.
More importantly an alcohol stove sucks compared to a gas one
Yeah, Caligays aren’t really much of a concern to me. Sucks for them I guess. Someone posted a comparison of stoves from Outdoor Gear Lab; all of the editing staff lives in California.
Pretending you tailor the amount of fuel in a canister is fake and gay. Not saying you can’t, just that you don’t. Inb4 muh week long hike. Most trips are three days. Let’s not lie to ourselves.
The homosexuals on Reddit were passing around a spreadsheet years ago that showed alcohol being heavier after seven days. It was flawed in that both types of fuel started at zero. With zero grams of fuel, you get zero uses. With x amount, one use. X(2) is two uses, x(3) is three uses, and so on. The alcohol was lighter until the seventh day. But like I said, you’re not filing your canister with as much fuel as you’ll need for the trip. Most people are taking canisters that are at least half full, just in case. The spreadsheet also completely discounted the weight of a metal fuel canister. 100g canisters weigh about 100g totally empty.
there's burn bans in way more than just cali anon
I gladly carry extra weight if I don't have to bother with an alcohol burner.
t. Has never used one.
Thanks for playing.
Grew up using one but nice try. I've never spoken to anyone who didn't say going to gas was a massive improvement.
>pouring in a small amount of liquid
>lighting it
It’s such a god damn pain in the ass. I literally can’t even.
>takes forever to even reach operating temperature, let alone boil water
>b***h to refill if you need to run the kitchen for longer than one fill
>soot
Yeah they suck but you do you anon
supercat boils 2 cups only 2 minutes slower than my pocket rocket at my elevation
soot = already got a bandana in my mess kit
different anon i prefer the alcohol stoves to canister where they're legal to use. there's a time and place for both.
>grew up using one
>soot
I hope to god this isn’t the same person! Hahahahahahaha!
>muh time
This is a false metric that was started by non-weight conscious organizations like Backpacker magazine. They needed some way to measure featureless items that were identical in use against one another. If three minutes is a deal breaker for you then you probably have severe autism.
>add fuel
When it runs out you pour more in. It’s a nonissue, but this has literally never happened to me.
>soot
Thanks for advertising to the board that you’ve never actually used one. Rubbing alcohol leaves soot (and a lot of brands are like 30% water and pretty inefficient), which is why everyone recommends denatured alcohol or HEET.
>muh time
Yeah who cares how long it takes to heat up water? You're in the woods just relax bro! Say it takes 45 mins to make coffee..so what bro just chill.
Its actually a huge deal if you're cooking for several people on the same stove. By your own 45 min to make coffee examples it will suddenly take 4.5 hours to make lunch + coffee for 3 people.
Just chill bro
The longer it takes the more gas you use.
Something you'd know if you went out on trips.
if you're richgay get a windmaster and a blade 2 and a evernew pot
Am I a richgay then, I have a whisperlite universal, windburner duo, a woodgas stove, a trangia, and all evernew or snowpeak pots.
Gsi bro compact pot/cup with drinking lid just replace the shitty spork
Jetboil in general is Dan Becker tier gear-queer shit.
If you compare the Stash to a (lighter) windmaster/toaks combo, you come to realize that you're spending $35 on the fricking pot fins.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have $35 extra in my backpacking budget for beer and cigarettes, but if you're that much of a fricking nerd that you need to boil your water 3 seconds faster, get the jetboil i guess
I had a Sterno Inferno that I used for camping. Was nice cause the Sterno heat would last for a long time and wasn't under pressure, weighted next to nothing and could also be used with their folding stove if you needed a bigger pot. Was dirt cheap so you wouldn't worry if it got messed up or lost.
Unfortunately they stopped making both the inferno and the folding stove and focus now on making butane burners and smore makers.
why forego the comfy feeling of starting your own tiny fire to boil some water for your coffee break by using some reddit tier gas stove. might as well stay home and make your coffee in the kitchen
>soot
Pic rel
>time
Not just boil time, but gathering wood and building a fire
>effort
Boiling water becomes a dedicated task rather than just lighting a stove and busying yourself for a couple of minutes.
>rain or snow
Obvious one
Finding the balance between fun and practicality is up to you.
I bought this meme stove a few years ago, 2x for $14
I ran 5 carts thru one and only one thru the other as it got plugged by mud daubers.
The orange is sun bleached but other than that there is absolutely nothing wrong with these cheapos. I don't see why I'd spend more on a pocket rocket.
I have both stoves. the differences are marginal quality of life things but they all add up to the soto's and msr's being worth the cost if you use them all the time, and not really for just a few casual trips every year. Pic stolen from google not mine.
pocket rocket 2 vs etekcity ultralight:
- PR2 is 2/3 the weight
- PR2 has much more stable pot supports
- Etekcity requires flip-out tips on the pot support to be as compact as the MSR when packed. they're kind of flimsy on my unit.
- PR2 is marginally more fuel efficient
Etekcity is actually really comparable to the Pocket Rocket 1 and if I still had a Pocket Rocket 1 I probably would never bothered upgrading to the Pocket Rocket 2.
BTW BRS and especially Fire Maple also make really good budget stoves. Some of Fire Maple's stuff is better than MSR and Soto IMO.
Real outdoorsmen light forest fires
No, get the Brs 3000t and firemaple or olicamp xts (same thing) much lighter. And it boils ultra fast even in wind since the Brs can actually slot into the heat fins it’s sits much closer than other heat spreader systems
I use a random, cheap Chinese stove from amazon and it works good, simple as. Spent 25 euro. Comes with a wind shield and a converter for butane cannisters (cheaper than propane)