Is the Durston Gear actually a good tent or is it just over-hyped shit?

Is the Durston Gear actually a good tent or is it just over-hyped shit? it was sold out everywhere for awhile and I know he's made a second version now as well. Anyone have any experience with it?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Made in China.
    havent used it but a common complain ive seen is that it has a massive footprint but tiny bug net inside to sleep in, and for the DCF version it still uses silpoly as the bathtub floor which wastes a lot of weight. other than that it has a a solid price and good materials. i think its heavy for a UL tent though, definitely overhyped but i dont think it's necessarily a bad tent.
    would like to hear other's experience with it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not OP, but are there any other tents you would recommend around the same price point?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >made in China
      Not uncommon
      >too small inside
      90x32. Pretty typical for a single person tent. And the two pole design means there’s more verticals space above your feet. Manlets don’t understand why that’s an issue.
      >floor is silpoly on the DCF version
      Now that’s interesting. I wonder if it’s because DCF has issues with abrasion or something.

      >heavy
      That’s a matter of price. The SMD Lunar Solo is 26 or 28 ounces and a little more expensive. The Gossamer Gear The One (which is the dumbest name for a tent ever and I hope whoever came up with it is beaten in front of her children) is like 26 ounces but $300. The X-Mid 1 is 30oz, $220. To get any cheaper and the same weight you’re rolling the dice with a Lanshan or going with a tarp.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not China, Taiwan.
      Literally the best textile manufacturing and sewing factories in the world.
      The bathtub floor on the pro version is SilPoly because it’s woven (better at dealing with punctures) and at 1.1oz/yd it’s only 0.1oz heavier than the 1.0oz DCF that’s used for the bathtub floor in shelters like the Duplex.
      SilPoly also packs down smaller than comparable weight DCF.
      The footprint is smaller than a Duplex because the fly pitches in a more rectangular shape compared to the more hexagonal shape of the Duplex.
      One of the biggest selling points of it is the increased headroom, so idk what you mean by tiny bug net.
      The whole point of the inner being on the diagonal with the peaks offset is to increase headroom.
      You’re wrong on almost every single thing you said.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >massive footprint
      Not really.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        good tent.
        also meme.
        compared to other similar tents its going to be a bit more storm proof than most entry level priced tents but its also going to have a bigger footprint than all of them and be harder to select campsites for.

        compared to the other trekking pole ul backpacker style tents in that price point, its pretty big.

        Made in China.
        havent used it but a common complain ive seen is that it has a massive footprint but tiny bug net inside to sleep in, and for the DCF version it still uses silpoly as the bathtub floor which wastes a lot of weight. other than that it has a a solid price and good materials. i think its heavy for a UL tent though, definitely overhyped but i dont think it's necessarily a bad tent.
        would like to hear other's experience with it.

        doesn't matter if a white guy designed it.
        and china doesn't mean bad in the textile market anymore boomer that was 15 years ago. notice cheap clothes never have china on the tag anymore its always vietnam and bangladesh now. and notice a lot of fashion designers have high end $1000+ garments made in china now.

        Not China, Taiwan.
        Literally the best textile manufacturing and sewing factories in the world.
        The bathtub floor on the pro version is SilPoly because it’s woven (better at dealing with punctures) and at 1.1oz/yd it’s only 0.1oz heavier than the 1.0oz DCF that’s used for the bathtub floor in shelters like the Duplex.
        SilPoly also packs down smaller than comparable weight DCF.
        The footprint is smaller than a Duplex because the fly pitches in a more rectangular shape compared to the more hexagonal shape of the Duplex.
        One of the biggest selling points of it is the increased headroom, so idk what you mean by tiny bug net.
        The whole point of the inner being on the diagonal with the peaks offset is to increase headroom.
        You’re wrong on almost every single thing you said.

        also this they're not even made in china.

        my tarp and bug bivy come in at 15oz
        take the tarp pill

        yeah this.

        >15oz
        holy shit what tarp and bug bivy do you have??

        not that anon but a borah ul bug bivy or a sea to summit bug pyramid with basically any ul tarp is gonna be 15oz or under.
        also highly recommend it if your climate allows.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >compared to the other trekking pole ul backpacker style tents in that price point, its pretty big.
          Which ones?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            tarptent protrail is one i can think of at the top of my mind, single wall so not that comparable

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lunar solos, lanshans, shit like that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              (Commie units; it’s 106” x 67”)

              I guess you could say the footprint is technically smaller because it’s hexagonal, but that would be extremely autistic, as it totally ignores actual use.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot the Lanshan pic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >also highly recommend it if your climate allows
          what if my climate is the Scottish highlands?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            borah bivy + MLD trailstar maybe, though at 20oz its not very different in weight from a ul tent which would have 360 protection

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the X-Mid 1 is 30.8 oz, is 10oz extra that significant? I've not spec'd into ultralight autism before

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >is 10oz extra that significant?

                NTA, but yes, 10oz is significant. The Trailstar is a shaped tarp. They claim you can set it up in different configurations, but I don’t see how. It doesn’t have doors or zippers, so that’s one less failure point. Like all tarps is very ventilated (tents just can’t compete). The occupant is pretty protected because of how it’s shaped .kind of expensive though. I wanna say $250 but I’m too lazy to look.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There's like, a weird sunset of folks that all they do is find weird ways of pitching the trail star. But mostly it's just a matter of what guyout you use for the door and how high the door pole is.

                Did not end up with a trail star but I fully support checking out tarps. Especially for tall anons theres no better way.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                not really but it can add up fast, though tarp vs tent camping has a very different feel, with tarp camping its very open and you can see around you which is why i prefer it, the extra weight savings are nice too

                >is 10oz extra that significant?

                NTA, but yes, 10oz is significant. The Trailstar is a shaped tarp. They claim you can set it up in different configurations, but I don’t see how. It doesn’t have doors or zippers, so that’s one less failure point. Like all tarps is very ventilated (tents just can’t compete). The occupant is pretty protected because of how it’s shaped .kind of expensive though. I wanna say $250 but I’m too lazy to look.

                230 usd so ~350 with a borah bivy (not including shipping which can add 50usd more if outside of US), pretty expensive compared to other options

                [...]
                thank you so much anons, looking at the reviews it seems perfect for my needs

                oh nice no problem :), look at the MLD cricket also its a single person version of the trailstar but not as well protected, im considering getting it if i have bad experiences with my A frame tarp on above treeline plains this spring
                also aliexpress copy of it:
                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004149297097.html

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >is 10oz extra that significant?

              NTA, but yes, 10oz is significant. The Trailstar is a shaped tarp. They claim you can set it up in different configurations, but I don’t see how. It doesn’t have doors or zippers, so that’s one less failure point. Like all tarps is very ventilated (tents just can’t compete). The occupant is pretty protected because of how it’s shaped .kind of expensive though. I wanna say $250 but I’m too lazy to look.

              thank you so much anons, looking at the reviews it seems perfect for my needs

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >is 10oz extra that significant?

              NTA, but yes, 10oz is significant. The Trailstar is a shaped tarp. They claim you can set it up in different configurations, but I don’t see how. It doesn’t have doors or zippers, so that’s one less failure point. Like all tarps is very ventilated (tents just can’t compete). The occupant is pretty protected because of how it’s shaped .kind of expensive though. I wanna say $250 but I’m too lazy to look.

              You guys don't find any problems with bugs? In Scotland at least there's a shit tonne of Midges. Usually I'd set up a fire and let the smoke blow over me to get rid of them before rushing into and zipping up a tent.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That’s what the bivy is for.
                Or a head net

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This is the Borah Gear bug bivy. The floor is made from waterproof silnylon like a tent. The rest of it is a bug net that’s suspended by the same poles that hold up the tarp. There are also versions that are made with a waterproof floor, a dwr covering, and a bugnet only over the occupants upper torso (the idea being that, in a really bad storm, he’s protected from splashes or some wind-driven rain).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lol no thanks, I would rather be able to sit up in my shelter

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                not that anon again
                you can sit up with the sea to summit bug pyramid.
                the main downside to bivy tarp is bugs. you're protected when sleeping but not really when farting around camp.
                bugs are really seasonal here, i own a tent too, and i tend to do more hiking less sitting around at camp so it works excellently for my situation.
                might not for you. i don't recommend it to everyone.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Comfort at camp is the trade off for comfort while hiking. I agree that it’s a huge loss of utility, and one I wouldn’t be willing to take. I like to take care of my feet, check maps, and read before going to sleep.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    my tarp and bug bivy come in at 15oz
    take the tarp pill

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >15oz
      holy shit what tarp and bug bivy do you have??

      • 1 year ago
        anyone here /pct/?

        >holy shit what tarp and bug bivy do you have??
        borah

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My waifu Dixie said it was good.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a UK version/equivalent of this tent? I refuse to pay moronic fricking import tax.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No. For some reason Europeans can’t into lightweight tents. Your choices are a bivy, a waxed canvas reproduction of a 17th century traveling minstrel yurt, a hammock that’s sized for a small woman, or staying in a hostel.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sucks. Europe has some great hiking routes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There's a guy named Mike who lives in Schotland and makes silnylon and DCF tents. I have the Stealth 1.5, but if I ever wear it out I'm getting a tent with side entrance, instead of a lengthwise entrance.
      trekkertent.com

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have a bunch of saved searches on US gear, I've got most mine second hand and avoided the import fees.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You can buy similar tens for 50-100 bucks, yeah its not ultra light but its not worth the weight/price ratio unless you are some dumbfrick rich kid

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