Is the bayonet obsolete in modern warfare?

Is the bayonet obsolete in modern warfare?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No. Have a sharp thing on a thing to stab people with is always going to be useful. Only the Bong's TRAIN bayonet charges, but everybody else still tells you how to stab with one.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, yes. For less weight and bulk than a bayonet, you can bring an extra stripper clip of ammo. There's no realistic situation where a bayonet is a good option in this day and age.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What if your gun jams? A modern rifle makes for a poor club.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        a modern rifle most certainly does not make for a poor club. muzzle thumping someone with an M4 is no joke

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Wierd how almost all nations issue a bayonet even after considering what you said.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There is literally no reason not to have your combat knife pluggable onto your rifle.

      >What are trenches

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    US won every war they were issued bayonets, lost every war they weren't. You decide for yourself.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      We won in Iraq and Afghanistan. We just failed to install a new government and police force in Shit-ganistan after kicking the shit out of them, which is a political failure, not a military one.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >We just failed to install a new government and police force
        Wrong: they installed the puppet government and it instantly became corrupt.
        >which is a political failure, not a military one.
        Wrong: it was still the US military's job to train an army that didn't get BTFO by an enemy the US kicked the shit out of.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >became corrupt
          Sand morons are always corrupt
          >job to genetically restructure sand morons into not sandmorons
          Eugenics is bad mmmkay?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Sand morons are always corrupt
            That's you admitting the US got into an unwinnable war.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Would you win by turning it into a complete vassal state without any local government?
              I genuinely have no idea what anyone in the mid-east wants for themselves, they tried to do... something with the Arab Spring, but I don't think they actually figured out what it was.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Would you win by turning it into a complete vassal state
                Yes.
                >without any local government
                No: you create a colonial government and incorporate the territory into your nation's sphere like the Bongs did.
                America's problem is imperialism is extremely impalpable, so the only option is pussyfooting it and that results in an Afghanistan every time.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                My moron, no one wanted Iraq as a colony, nor could we even do that in this age are you retarded?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes we could, and nobody on the planet would have the balls to do anything about it. We just won't because it's more convenient to give our vassal states the illusion of freedom.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >America's problem is imperialism is extremely impalpable,
                America was born out of a rebellion against an empire that did not give them representation but would take their taxes. Its very obvious in the psyche of the nation how USA has never went to full imperialistic subjugation and incorporation route after conquests.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lmao imagine actually believing this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Im not even a burger and even I know burgers would rather just do good business and not fuck around with incorporation and subjugation of other nations

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lmao imagine actually believing this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lmao imagine actually being anti-western and anti-american in 2023

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                America is a cancer.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                and yet you still yearn to live there, shitskin. Its called sour grapes.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Its very obvious in the psyche of the nation how USA has never went to full imperialistic subjugation and incorporation route after conquests.
                Why do you think I said we pussyfoot it? It's not just Afghanistan we've had problems with, just look at how Ukraine and Yemen are doing right now.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >We won, we just failed to destroy our enemies and now they completely control the country and publicly mock us.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Russian tier level of cope

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Would you like to get stabbed to find out?

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bayonets were a thing because you had very little ammo capacity and someone could realistically close a few meter gap before you could get a follow up shot, became pretty much pointless when detachable magazine semi-auto's started to get universally issued.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I imagine bayonet charges would still work in Ukraine

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It should double as a tool, and typically did in the past alongside various choppy short swords. Say you're guarding POWs -- stabby thing puts out of their minds zombie rushing.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The flipper guy video could have easily bayonetted both those guys

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    top kek at virgin idiots who think hand to hand combat is "outdated" or whatever dumb ass crap you come up with after 20 hour sessions in arma 3.

    At the end of the day, fighting men will always manage to get close enough together to attempt to stab or bash each other's skulls and when that happens its super convenient to have a knife at the end of your rifle. The close quarters aspect of combat is probably the most overlooked thing in how we write about history, probably because its not very glorious to write about crazed men exposing each others brains with entrenching tools

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Modern warfare? Maybe. But it's absolutely necessary for personal firearms that you plan on using if SHTF.

    People might doubt that your gun is real. They might think you're out of ammo. If a big fuck-off knife is mounted on it, it's gonna make those thoughts irrelevant, since they'll still see you as a threat.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ever since horses left the battlefield I’m pretty sure an e-tool has been a better idea than a bayonet lug, (you’ll be using it indoors 95% of cases) but some kind of melee implement is a good idea.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't some Brit officer lead a bayonet charge across open ground after an ambush in afghanistan? Guy got a medal for it as far as I remember.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He was a corporal, but yes. He and his men didn't actually use the bayonet on anybody though as the taliban retreated. Whether they retreated because they saw a bayonet charge incoming and lost their nerve or because they took casualties from the grenades lobbed at their position moments prior we don't know, though it was probably both.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There were bayonet charges in Iraq too, notably at Danny Boy.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's been 90% obsolete since repeating firearms and 100% since everyone got high capacity automatic weapons right up until the 1 in a million situation it'll save your ass that will happen to someone that could be you. Seeing as having a knife is always useful and a lug to mount it costs essentially nothing you may as well have the capability.

    (Probably still very useful for controlling prisoners)

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather have it in cqb than not.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Was Iraq the most aesthetic war?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Right close.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Was Iraq the most aesthetic war?

        No. It's not even among the top ten.

        It does get an honorable mention though for rad music.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If you mean Iraq 1 yes, otherwise no...2000s should never be a thing.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It was obsolete in ww1 and it's even more obsolete now

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The boyonet has been obsolete since before WWI.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. So are aircraft carriers.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. However, every soldier should carry a knife because it's a very versatile tool.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It never will be.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not in a world of carabines and bullpup, to mount a bayonet you need an actual rifle, I cringe when I see the bongs doing parades with bayonets and L85. Just use the Lee Enfield or the L1A1
    >in4 MUH QUEEF GUARD ARE ACTUAL SOLDIERS
    yeah, that's why there's always an armed cop with a smg and bullet proof vest next to them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There's literally a bayonet on a bullpup in this thread

      https://i.imgur.com/94Ffu5O.jpg

      Wierd how almost all nations issue a bayonet even after considering what you said.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Is not efective, the longer the rifle the betters try stabing someone with a mauser 98 with that, lets see who gets who first.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And how many militaries still issue out Mauser 98s, esl-kun?
          Either way, a bullpup with a bayonet is still more effective at bayonet fighting than a bullpup without a bayonet.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >lets see who gets who first
            The guy with the bullpup stabs the already dead corpse of the guy with the mauser because nobody with a fucking mauser is living long enough to get close in 2023.

            Point is, nobody is using bullpup rifles either, they are obsolete, they are being phased out, the same thing will happen to 5.56 carabines (when america tell NATO what cartrige to adopt next). Battle rifles will dominate warfare again.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              And that is relevant to the bayonet discussion, how? Bayonets are useful regardless of whether they‘re mounted on an obsolete platform or not.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >lets see who gets who first
          The guy with the bullpup stabs the already dead corpse of the guy with the mauser because nobody with a fucking mauser is living long enough to get close in 2023.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a knife that turns a rifle into a pointy sticky. Sometimes you need a pointy stick. Soldiers need a knife anyway so it costs virtually nothing In terms of added weight.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i mean, if you can use a combat knife as a bayonet, i dont see the problem, there might be a 1/1000 change you will find it useful and it doesnt take up any unnecessary space on your kit

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No, the British have done bayonet charges in the Falklands, Afghanistan, and Iraq

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