Look at it like this, if they get one guy it was worth it. Also it sacks up with everything else, basically it can help be the tipping point for people with all the other things happening.
I don't know of a single instance where "psy-ops" like this ever produced any actual real effect beyond meme value for shitposting about dumb "spooky" shit decades after a war. That said, giving instructions to a receptive audience on how to surrender has its benefits, but no doubt the Russians already know about white flags, putting your hands up and shouting surrender. There's not even a language or culture barrier.
I meant things like dropping leaflets and telling them to surrender, or dropping propaganda on soldiers. Actual misdirection of course did work, Operation Mincemeat being the most famous example.
I feel those didn't work after word got out about how the Japanese treated PoW's. I recall many stories from the Pacific war of US G.I.'s literally fighting to the last man as becoming a Japanese PoW was worse than death.
It's ironic too coupled with how Americans treated Japanese PoW's. At the very least, Japanese PoW's weren't literally medically experimented on, tortured or beheaded.
Hard to say, depends on a lot of variables.
However, producing it usually takes little to no effort in comparison to the actual fighting, so you might as well.
A great article on the Vietnamese Chieu Hoi programme.
http://www.psywarrior.com/ChieuHoiProgram.html
the whole site is a great resource for US psyops since WWI
http://www.psywarrior.com/links.html
The Russians were doing this and constantly shelling surrender propaganda using literal propaganda shells: https://youtu.be/3l1GEAKwksU
It was by far the most effective infowar campaign of the war. Nothing comes close. This is what destroyed the Azovstal defense. Imagine if the defenders had decided to go out fighting instead of mass surrender.
Not enough to justify cost-wise, and Germans and Russians would shoot deserters out of hand, but it's real purpose is to control the narrative and make sure you have effective ways to dominate and exploit captives. >Yuri zis flllllyer says the dill heads have taken Balakliya >Don't be stupid Vanya. Commander Sir Generalsky Leutenant Captain Colonel Boromirvich says everything fine >Captured, taken to Balakliya by ukes >Cyka bylat they weren't lying but my commander was! I give up,. Am prisoner, tell all I know and frick Mozzer Russia in the prostitute ass
That's how they're supposed to work.
Can't hurt.
against demoralized troops? yes
Russian soldiers are brave and not scarred to die unlike western soldiers who cry if no have playstation
Russian soldiers fight until victory or die
This is ukronazi propaganda and war crime
>calling your enemy to surrender is a war crime
how
hes obviously baiting.
If he was a few shades darker he'd be the exact average /misc/ poster
>unlike western soldiers who cry if no have playstation
Good thing Ukrainians are Eastern.
Can confirm, I am John from Petrograd, Florida Oblast.
Look at it like this, if they get one guy it was worth it. Also it sacks up with everything else, basically it can help be the tipping point for people with all the other things happening.
Mass surrenders are better than mass retreats
It probably works if its true
If I were pressed into service, maybe. The offer of food and shelter would sweeten the deal.
I don't know of a single instance where "psy-ops" like this ever produced any actual real effect beyond meme value for shitposting about dumb "spooky" shit decades after a war. That said, giving instructions to a receptive audience on how to surrender has its benefits, but no doubt the Russians already know about white flags, putting your hands up and shouting surrender. There's not even a language or culture barrier.
Germans stayed at Calais for two days because they thought Patton was crossing there.
I meant things like dropping leaflets and telling them to surrender, or dropping propaganda on soldiers. Actual misdirection of course did work, Operation Mincemeat being the most famous example.
Attention Ukrochad!
I cease resistance
Japan "issued" those to allied soldiers, too.
I feel those didn't work after word got out about how the Japanese treated PoW's. I recall many stories from the Pacific war of US G.I.'s literally fighting to the last man as becoming a Japanese PoW was worse than death.
It's ironic too coupled with how Americans treated Japanese PoW's. At the very least, Japanese PoW's weren't literally medically experimented on, tortured or beheaded.
Can you post some other spooky examples please?
I prefer it when the Ukies send this message
Well they can't retreat because of the Chechens, what choice do they have?
Hard to say, depends on a lot of variables.
However, producing it usually takes little to no effort in comparison to the actual fighting, so you might as well.
Pretty sure the leaflets the Americans dropped in the ME were pretty effective.
The Russians can do exactly the same thing.
>Using German autism against them
well arguably if it even gets one soilder to do it it has worked. but no its probably not very effective
A great article on the Vietnamese Chieu Hoi programme.
http://www.psywarrior.com/ChieuHoiProgram.html
the whole site is a great resource for US psyops since WWI
http://www.psywarrior.com/links.html
The Russians were doing this and constantly shelling surrender propaganda using literal propaganda shells: https://youtu.be/3l1GEAKwksU
It was by far the most effective infowar campaign of the war. Nothing comes close. This is what destroyed the Azovstal defense. Imagine if the defenders had decided to go out fighting instead of mass surrender.
Are you saying Azovstal surrendered because of leaflets?
They surrendered because they fought for three months with a month's worth of rations and ammo, not because of Chechen era leaflet shells.
propaganda like this only works when the message matches what the person is experiencing or is suspecting already
Not enough to justify cost-wise, and Germans and Russians would shoot deserters out of hand, but it's real purpose is to control the narrative and make sure you have effective ways to dominate and exploit captives.
>Yuri zis flllllyer says the dill heads have taken Balakliya
>Don't be stupid Vanya. Commander Sir Generalsky Leutenant Captain Colonel Boromirvich says everything fine
>Captured, taken to Balakliya by ukes
>Cyka bylat they weren't lying but my commander was! I give up,. Am prisoner, tell all I know and frick Mozzer Russia in the prostitute ass
That's how they're supposed to work.