I want to have the shortest suppressed gun possible, WHILE keeping it one stamp (so no asking the ATF for permission to cross state lines), so I considered having a monocore pin+welded to a short barrel to make it legal. The monocore being so that I can clean it while still on the gun after removing the tube.
Of course I wouldn't be able to remove it from the gun, it would be basically an integrally suppressed. If I had a baffle strike or something I'd probably be fricked, right? I'd have to unpin it to send it for repair as I doubt they could repair it pinned to the barrel. Also my gun would become unsellable basically.
I also thought of pin + welding a QD muzzle device, and getting a YHM turbo K or other short can, then having my stock shortened by 1.5".
Then I'd be able to at least QD the suppressor and wouldn't be limited to monocore
I was under the impression you had to notify the ATF when taking any NFA item across state lines, so I don't see how saving one tax stamp helps you here. Or am I misunderstanding that?
It doesn't apply to suppressors for whatever reason
Weird, I had always assumed the same thing as the other anon said. Good to know
No ATF notification required for interstate travel as long as the states you travel to allow suppressors. i.e. Nevada to CA would be a no-no.
We already know that, that's not what this thread is about
understandable. Have fun destroying your firearms then.
I have a shitty heavy and long suppressor that's direct thread. As I recall you can either pin and weld or seem weld 51%. I tried finding a welder to do it for me and could not. Apparently ATF rules require anyone working on or modifying a suppressor to log it officially.
I've heard this is not the case if you don't leave it over night but people are extremely reluctant to work on suppressor.
I'm seriously considering learning to weld.
>I'm seriously considering learning to weld.
Do it anon. Learning a new skill that is useful (and potentially open up other career opportunities) is never a bad thing.
I also need to get off my ass and learn to weld.
I bought a shitty stick welder and mask on Amazon for like $100. Got a bunch of rebar and flat stock and plugged away. It's fun.
I don't think that it is a moronic idea at all.
why hasnt anyone made an integrally suppressed ar15 barrel yet? they've got a few companies making suppressed 10/22 barrels. weve got handguards girthy enough to fit one and the gas system could be properly tuned out of the box.
i suppose the heat could suck if youve got the handguard covering half the silencer section of the barrel, but still the idea has merit
daniel defense isr
>complying with ATF
>not just abolishing them with gunshots
This is why I tell people America doesn't even exist at all
It's not a real country it's part of Israel where the israelites grow their golems of war
And yet you live in a country with even less firearms freedom
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I've contemplated the exact same thing OP. I'd suggest at least considering just checking out one of the various integrally suppressed barrel makers unless you're very confident in your own skills. Then you've got someone to turn to if things go south, and some designs make it a lot easier to repair a baffle strike even if the entire thing is officially integrally suppressed. It's enough of a PITA and expense to do this stuff right now that I'm not sure it makes sense to DIY, unless you just genuinely have the skill or desire to acquire the skill and thus want to do the exercise from scratch yourself. At least for my nicer rifle I don't have the confidence given the barrel cost. In which case unironically godspeed and post your results, that's awesome. Form 1s are also like 8-12x faster than Form 4s.
Also at the same time if properly done baffle strikes should never happen with something integral/welded, if you've used an alignment rod and all that doing it then by definition it can never shift out of position or be put on incorrectly, because it's always there. Once it's done it's done.
Few other things:
>shortest suppressed gun possible
This can only be done with wipes which is a whole different ball of wax (or rather, rubber).
>Also my gun would become unsellable basically.
Depends. Lots of guns have modular barrels. So could still get something for receiver with normal barrel in that case.
I would just buy an intergrally suppressed AR upper like the one YHM makes
That’s an awful lot of hoops you’re jumping through for people who train every day for the chance to kill you. You’re not a coomplier, are you, anon?
I proudly #comply with ALL federal rules and regulations. I am a Good Citizen. It feels good to #comply.
why can't you just pin and weld a suppressor mount muzzle device like a normal person? that seems like the way to get it done with the least amount of headaches
Tactical Solutions TSAR does exactly this. Ditto about availability