Is it possible to make a handgun using some combination of caliber and barrels that can defeat Level III plates?

Is it possible to make a handgun using some combination of caliber and barrels that can defeat Level III plates?

There's a crackhead in my neighborhood who has begun to tape / tie cast iron pans, trash can lids and other types of metallic items to his body and I need to be prepared. I know he's seen my grow lights on at night, and know that fucker is planning something.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    .30-06 contender firing blacktips?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/etW5uYk.gif

      Yeah just take the stock off a rifle that can defeat the armor and it's a pistol.

      Do handgun rounds have any possibility of penetration? What about 9x25 Dillon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno man I was just making a joke. I haven't done any research or testing on the idea of armor-piercing pistol calibers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Legit III plates or just random metal trash? Because even .22 Mag out of a pistol will penetrate the thickest part of a cast iron skillet at range.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, legit Level III's. It'd be a fun project.

          With tungsten? Easily. With legal materials? Trickier but possible. An aluminum cored 9x25 at max pressure, barrel length, and a sharp point might be able to punch III steel.

          Tungsten is illegal for bullets? I never knew about aluminum. I always associated it with softer metals, but I think I was confusing malleability with hardness. Or is it just the lightness of it increases velocity?

          I'm thinking something like a G40 with 7.5 inch 9x25 Dillon barrel now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aluminum is commonly as strong as copper which is used in pistol caliber solids because brass is illegal for pistols. Stronger aluminum is at least as strong as brass, actually. Copper, aluminum, and brass are all way stronger than lead, and lighter, but aluminum is the lightest, so it can be pushed the fastest. 9x25 can get well above Mach 2 with copper solids out of a 9 inch barrel, a lighter aluminum cored bullet might just be fast enough.

            Lead 5.56 will penetrate level III steel at around 3200fps, as I recall.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if you intend to kill magicians.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah just take the stock off a rifle that can defeat the armor and it's a pistol.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I been in the hills fuckin DUDES

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cast iron pans, trash can lids
    a simple musket will defeat his armor

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just as the Founding Fathers intended

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    5.7?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      5.7 needs a 10 inch barrel to defeat armor, If you're using it in a pistol you're better off with .22mag.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Black dragon fangs out of a pistol.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/23/myth-busting-22-magnum-vs-5-7x28mm/amp/
        >Kel-Tec have stated [PDF Link] that a 40 grain .22 WMR round should reach a velocity of 1230 fps from the 4.3″ barrel of their PMR-30 pistol. This works out to 134.40 ft/lbs of energy.

        >This is a significantly less than the FN Five-seveN USG (4.75″ barrel), which can push a 40 grain bullet at 2009 fps. This works out to 358.57 ft/lbs! Nearly three times as powerful as the .22 WMR! 1

        >This does not mean that the .22 WMR is not a good cartridge. It simply means that the 5.7mm is optimized to be fired from a pistol, rather than the slower burning .22 WMR loads which are designed to be fired from a rifle.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That won't stop them from just repeating the lie next thread.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Iron pans and trash can lids are not even close to armor grade steel.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about 6mm cast iron ploughshares?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >swords into ploughshares
        >ploughshares into WW1 body armor
        >NLAW cases into beehives.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    With tungsten? Easily. With legal materials? Trickier but possible. An aluminum cored 9x25 at max pressure, barrel length, and a sharp point might be able to punch III steel.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cast iron is brittle. It might stop one shot but it will shatter and won't stop a second

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A frying pan isn't very tough I saw a video where a guy punched clean through one with a .22 tcm and then a 5.7
    actual level iii though I'm not sure a legal "non armor piercing" pistol round exists short of an ar "pistol" there's claims like that 9mm dangy dagger being supposed to evenbtually go through iii but it's not capable of or even out yet and any of them spike shaped bullets I'd be concerned about the wounding effect of anyways

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Friggin raiders

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make a handgun
    >a crackhead
    >in my neighborhood
    >he's seen my grow lights
    What kind of felonious loser are you?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    davny dagger if those fuckers ever release it

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    5.7 black fangs can at least beat IIIA, but they're not available to the civilian market. Velocity aside, they're probably can't beat III simply due to weight. Hot .500 mag or .45-70 with the right bullet can probably punch through with brute force.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen 45-70 brass solids and 500SW copper solids bounce right off III steel.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't be surprised, generally. If you can get spire-pointed bullets to impact in excess of 2000 fps it might be different.

        In the usa isn’t it legal to buy any type of rounds in certain states? Or is it illegal everywhere?

        [...]
        I imagine you could always just make up for it with capacity.

        They're literally just not for sale. You have to find them secondhand acquired from who knows where and even then they usually go for $9/rd.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          5.7 needs a 10 inch barrel to defeat armor, If you're using it in a pistol you're better off with .22mag.

          5.7 copper solids are legal for civilians and they penetrate soft armor significantly better than 22mag.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the usa isn’t it legal to buy any type of rounds in certain states? Or is it illegal everywhere?

      https://i.imgur.com/UDy1lOq.jpg

      Is it possible to make a handgun using some combination of caliber and barrels that can defeat Level III plates?

      There's a crackhead in my neighborhood who has begun to tape / tie cast iron pans, trash can lids and other types of metallic items to his body and I need to be prepared. I know he's seen my grow lights on at night, and know that fucker is planning something.

      I imagine you could always just make up for it with capacity.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but they're not available to the civilian market
      They are: https://www.vanguardoutfittersllc.com/57x28-custom-ammo/custom-ammo-1476/blackfang-obsidian-dragon-14761867
      You have to check that page multiple times a day every day to catch them in stock, though.
      Unless you want to preorder: https://www.vanguardoutfittersllc.com/57x28-custom-ammo/pre-order-57x28-1476/blackfang-obsidian-dragon-pre-order-4113886

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >warwick davis hits the range.jpg

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    500 magnum with 700 Tyrannosaurus rounds. Don't know if it'll get through the armor, it's slow as hell, but it'll pulverize anything and everything under it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IT'LL PULVERIZE YER ORGANS THRU THEH ARMOR
      Never happens.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it does dumbass, transfer or force is a real thing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay when has anyone in history been killed by a non penetrating impact on a hard plate?
          Name the man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/304671750399

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I get the confusion but I'm talking about this:
        https://ammunitiongunbroker.com/product/underwood-ammunition-500-sw-magnum-700-grain-lead-wide-flat-nose-gas-check-250-rounds-2/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean these?
      https://mattsbullets.com/ammunition/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8

      700gr at 1200 FPS means that thing has less energy than a standard 7.62x51 M80 ball cartridge. It is going to do exactly nothing to someone wearing level III armor. It's too slow to get through.

      Yeah it does dumbass, transfer or force is a real thing.

      Go ahead Mr. Expert who has never passed highschool physics, tell us all how it works. In the meantime, here is someone getting shot with an FAL point blank, notice how it doesn't do shit. As I note earlier, M80 ball has more energy than that .500 magnum loading. The FAL is more powerful, it doesn't crush organs, it doesn't break ribs, it doesn't even push him. And that's some ancient by modern standards armor, it's gotten much better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are mostly correct, but I'd like to point out that momentum plays a role in BFD that means a heavier round with the same energy will hurt more.
        More is a relative term, as it's not going to kill you either, but still.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what? a fifty caliber pistol firing a seventy caliber rifle round? How the fuck would it fit in the gun?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's talking about some 700gr bullets

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah. That makes more sense. Still won't beat armor though.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Single Action Army in .44-40 Winchester Center fire (WCF)

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to make a handgun using some combination of caliber and barrels that can defeat Level III plates?
    Possible to make? Sure. Neck down 50AE to .30 caliber and shoot something harder than lead at max pressure.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could probably wild cat some .22-.25 cal necking down of 10mm auto and do it. Light weight but very fast bullets.
    7.5FK can already put backface deformation on LvIII plates. Thats 101gr at 2000 fps.
    So a spitzer .22 cal round of ~60gr at 2500FPS could probably do it.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PANSHOT!

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah the one in your picture, dumbass.

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